even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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Ms. Ginn, left, in her rat-pelt dress, and Ms. LaViola chatting with guests before dinner.

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scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:32 (five years ago) Permalink

damn, for some reason i couldn't get that rat-pelt dress picture to show up. maybe a moderator can add it.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:33 (five years ago) Permalink

i couldn't even save that picture to my computer. the times is tricky.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/07/27/arts/design/20120727-RATS-4.html

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:38 (five years ago) Permalink

she needs to come along for the ride.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Across the table Mr. Hutchings gnawed on a rat bone, pronouncing it delicious. The dinner delivered on its once-in-a-lifetime promise. “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/07/27/arts/27RATS_SPAN/27RATS_SPAN-articleLarge.jpg

For Ms. Ginn skinning and eating rats represents the survivalist instincts she likes to explore in her work. “To have these sorts of skills, it’s very empowering,” she said. “It makes me feel like I have more control over my world.”

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Cheryl
Westchester Cty

It reminds me a bit of the Woman Warrior ( Maxine Kingston) description of the narrator's mother as a Great Eater, one who could literally and figuratively eat any dish set before her without the slightest expression of fear or disgust. But in a setting of extreme comfort, and the best condiments and disguises for the purchased rats, it doesn't seem to signify anything. Now, if all the rats had been "wild raised" in NYC and caught by the participants, that would be a better story... Or perhaps if different rats had been trapped in different restaurants, again, we could compare the effects of different restaurant fare on their taste.... Overall, ick.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:02 (five years ago) Permalink

jg
San Francisco

How is this any different from the sensationalism of TV Shows like Fear Factor. Rats are disgusting and only eaten in the worst of times. They are in fact disease ridden and thoroughly disgusting. Why does this generation insist on destroying paradigms or structures without any sensible or tangible replacements. Did they learn nothing from the Baby Boomers and the "Me" generation? I hate everything about this from it's pettiness to its barbarism to the sensationalistic and cynical nature of it. Rich people eating rats. Rich indeed.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:05 (five years ago) Permalink

comments get really real:

Sami
Long Beach, CA

This can be seen as the expected result of the gentrification of New York that has been occurring for the past 20 years or so. Rats, formerly associated with urban squalor, became reified as a kind of aesthetic signifier of "authentic" New York-ness by the post-collegiate hordes of mostly white middle class young people who flocked to places like Williamsburg in the late 90s and early 2000s. These people were ravenous for real urban life, and embraced the rat as a component of a lifestyle they sought - even as their (the gentrifiers) increasing presence destroyed that same reality by displacing working class residents and communities that had been associated with the presence of rats during the Reagan era of urban decline. This event combines the role that art plays in the gentrification process with the gentrifiers obsession with "local" food culture in an ironic glorification of their (Pyrrhic) conquest of the "urban."

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:07 (five years ago) Permalink

something about eating rats that really pisses people off.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Sometimes I feel like the cycle of trolling and being trolled has just become a ritual for the Times style sections, like the commenters are just this chorus of people who "come to boo"

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 14:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean that's what we are, basically

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 15:00 (five years ago) Permalink

ya they know what theyre doin

lag∞n, Friday, 27 July 2012 15:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Sami
Long Beach, CA

This can be seen as the expected result of the gentrification of New York that has been occurring for the past 20 years or so. Rats, formerly associated with urban squalor, became reified as a kind of aesthetic signifier of "authentic" New York-ness by the post-collegiate hordes of mostly white middle class young people who flocked to places like Williamsburg in the late 90s and early 2000s. These people were ravenous for real urban life, and embraced the rat as a component of a lifestyle they sought - even as their (the gentrifiers) increasing presence destroyed that same reality by displacing working class residents and communities that had been associated with the presence of rats during the Reagan era of urban decline. This event combines the role that art plays in the gentrification process with the gentrifiers obsession with "local" food culture in an ironic glorification of their (Pyrrhic) conquest of the "urban."

― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 04:07 (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ rad

, Blogger (schlump), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I think we can't totally discount the possibility that this artist is trolling us too, like basically going for what that commenter is describing? I mean “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

that sounds like trolling

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't know, do you think that psychiatrists think their case studies are interesting as human beings, or just... interesting...?

j., Friday, 27 July 2012 17:21 (five years ago) Permalink

I think we can't totally discount the possibility that this artist is trolling us too, like basically going for what that commenter is describing? I mean “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”

― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this wasn't the artist, this was one of the guests

this seems totally fine to me tbh

thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 17:26 (five years ago) Permalink

i hope that they get the plague and die.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 29 July 2012 00:33 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/automobiles/autoreviews/you-cant-beat-it-with-a-stick.html

Priced from $26,795, this is the ILX that screams “compromise” at the top of its little 2-liter lungs, with standard cloth seats and just 150 breathless horses from a version of the Civic engine.

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 29 July 2012 06:53 (five years ago) Permalink

the ILX seems limited to fans of zing-it-yourself compacts at a relatively high price.

undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 29 July 2012 07:01 (five years ago) Permalink

too much time on nyt

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:11 (five years ago) Permalink

hey, in the interest of fair play, i read that article about the girl tavi who had the fashion blog and now has the rookie site and she seems cool and her site looks great and smart.

don't want to hate every young person in the new york times. makes me feel bad.

"in the spirit of sassy magazine" is always a good move. plus, john waters loves her and that's good enough for me.

wish more websites looked like the rookie site for real! so easy to read and navigate and pleasant to look at.

http://rookiemag.com/

scott seward, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

ya tavi is awesome

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:38 (five years ago) Permalink

yep rookie is great and i wish i was as cool and smart at 28 as tavi is at 15/16

Roz, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:55 (five years ago) Permalink

nothing to hate about tavi.

wmlynch, Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Rookie is great and I wish it was there to read when I was 12+ years old. So much better than so many teen girl mags.

Crabbits, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:54 (five years ago) Permalink

LONG ILX THREADS HATE THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK:

1. Click on the Permalink of the message right after the cutoff.

2. The URL will now contain something like "bookmarkedmessageid=3669956"

3. Change that number to something smaller and you will be jumped back to an earlier point in the thread without loading the whole thing.

― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, July 27, 2012 12:52 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

I feel dumb for not having thought of doing this myself!

Je55e, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i tried it on the long orig breaking bad thread & it didnt seem 2 work

johnny crunch, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Which part didn't work? The only maybe tricky part is that if you don't make that number small enough, you won't get any older messages. And if you make that number too small you'll be at the first messages. Usually lowering it by thousands or ten-thousands is enough.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 18:45 (five years ago) Permalink

i have tried it and it worked

lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:46 (five years ago) Permalink

What I do with a long thread is open it at my bookmarked spot and then hit permalink on the first post while the rest is loading.

Moodles, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

fyi you can also click on the permalink for the last post before the fold and then just click “view previous page"

1staethyr, Friday, 3 August 2012 20:40 (five years ago) Permalink

View Previous Page has only ever worked sporadically for me.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:46 (five years ago) Permalink

i enjoy that scott is all 'that tavi girl'

thomp, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:24 (five years ago) Permalink

View Previous Page has only ever worked sporadically for me.

― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, August 3, 2012 4:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Saturday, 4 August 2012 13:35 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/nyregion/four-men-sharing-rent-and-friendship-for-18-years.html

men. living together.

goole, Saturday, 4 August 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

i was looking for a thread on like manchildren or something to post this on but i guess this is close enough because lol nytimes not so much these guys are the ruling class

buzza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:58 (five years ago) Permalink

"Shyaporn Theerakulstit, actor and audiobook narrator"

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 August 2012 12:46 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/fashion/montauk-feels-the-effects-of-too-many-hipsters.html

In the meantime, longtime residents are left to harken back to that first crowd that had to endure an invasion of newcomers, the Montauket tribe. As Mr. Devlin’s wife, Eileen, joked on Friday as the restaurant prepared for another busy night, “Now I know how the Indians felt.”

Nope. No you don't.

Playoff Starts Here (san lazaro), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:00 (five years ago) Permalink

it notes clearly that she was joking

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:16 (five years ago) Permalink

yah what gives

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Another showed a rifle and the words “Defend Montauk.”

printing hipster shirts against hipsters u might be a hipster

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:21 (five years ago) Permalink

also isnt the fedora more of a broish affectation

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:21 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/nyregion/four-men-sharing-rent-and-friendship-for-18-years.html

men. living together.

― goole, Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:57 PM

this was hilarious! The comments, though, are mostly horrifying.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:57 (five years ago) Permalink

quiddities thread has made me insensitive to the real articles, i want all the stupid setup cut so i can get right to the aughs

j., Sunday, 5 August 2012 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

so by hipster they just mean young money?

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Sunday, 5 August 2012 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/aXnRN.jpg

well

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:47 (five years ago) Permalink

start of a neil gaiman story if ever i heard one

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:13 (two months ago) Permalink

You can't boil some eggs without killing a few people.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:27 (two months ago) Permalink

I should change my career to a “how to talk to your kids about their inheritance consultant”. I think it would be pretty easy.

Jeff, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:34 (two months ago) Permalink

A kibbutz it ain't

.oO (silby), Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:29 (two months ago) Permalink

that's fucking amazing, found poetry

― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:31 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it is!

reminds me of "brownsville girl"

"ah henry ain't here but you can come in, he'll be back in a little while"

marcos, Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:43 (two months ago) Permalink

man that welive place looks so sad

chinavision!, Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:32 (two months ago) Permalink

Dear Diary:
I accompanied my friend Judy to an auto body shop in the Bronx to help her retrieve her property from her car, which was totaled when she hit a deer upstate.
We readily accepted the mechanic’s kind offer to drive us to the subway station with our heavy bags.
Before entering the subway, we offered Judy’s long-handled snow-removal brush, which she no longer needed, to a man at a corner fruit stand. He took it happily and offered two apples in return.
On the ride back to Manhattan, Judy gave one of the apples to a homeless woman; she too accepted with gratitude.
An unfortunate event for a deer resulted in thoughtful deeds that were satisfying to several people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAZYqXwW5lA

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:16 (two months ago) Permalink

ha ha this sounds like someone at their bar mitzvah talking about how much they learned from volunteering at the food bank for two hours

President Keyes, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:38 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/style/where-are-all-the-nannies-on-instagram.html

tbh, I don't know if this is thread-qualified, my eye started twitching after the third paragraph

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:39 (two months ago) Permalink

It's almost like an inverted quid-ag, ostensibly social justice and wealth inequality concerned, but still subtly from the perspective of the wealthy (framed as "why aren't they on rich people's instagrams" as opposed to like "the hidden labor that makes wealthy lifestyles possible." )

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:47 (two months ago) Permalink

One estimate shows wealthy couples in NYC need 90 million to keep their heads above water https://t.co/dlF6y9wlpT pic.twitter.com/RrSn4oS3Sg

— Finance Insider (@clusterstock) November 17, 2017

now they're just trolling

mookieproof, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:15 (one month ago) Permalink

for $190 a lot of people would put their heads below water

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:59 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/technology/silicon-valley-esalen-institute.html?_r=0

“There’s a dawning consciousness emerging in Silicon Valley as people recognize that their conventional success isn’t necessarily making the world a better place,” said Mr. Tauber, 34, a former Google product manager and start-up executive coach. “The C.E.O.s, inside they’re hurting. They can’t sleep at night.”

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 05:22 (one month ago) Permalink

The C.E.O.s
inside they’re hurting

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 11:40 (one month ago) Permalink

there's an app for that

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:08 (one month ago) Permalink

There's a dawning consciousness emerging in Silicon Valley as CEOs recognize that they are shallow, clueless zealots, adrift in a world they do not understand except through the trivialities with which they've crammed their minds.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:20 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

bushwickdaily is generally a crushing thing to scroll through, just a delirious parade of gentrification boosterism with a sad veneer of hippitude. "feeling like some kind of bourgeois Brooklyn refugee" is particularly rich though. nice that the comments are going after him, i feel like 90% of the stuff on that site nobody even reads (which is good) or if they do nobody notices how fucked it is (which is bad).

the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:15 (four weeks ago) Permalink

agree with you on basically all points. what is "the nostalgia for now" called?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:19 (four weeks ago) Permalink

also not nyt (and not this year) but the terrible thing about the times is it could have been

this tweet reminds me of this class wall street journal image on “typical” family incomes pic.twitter.com/JexnSXOBxw

— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) December 19, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 23:31 (four weeks ago) Permalink

lol just your average single mom w two kids making a quarter of a million dollars

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 23:42 (four weeks ago) Permalink

just your average retired couple with $130k of non-investment income

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 23:48 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Is that dude wearing a scarf without a coat like rupert bear, or is it meant to be a jumper

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 00:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Also lol for a uk reader these all look like court sketches of ppl

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 00:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

haha oh man i'd forgotten about that one. we've definitely clowned it before - i remember someone shedding a tear for sad dorothea lange portrait of the single parent living on $260,000 a year ($40,000 in deductions, $35,000 in investment income)

the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 00:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

she looks like téa leoni in a movie that ends w her throwing away her ringing cell

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 00:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Is it not a dude with a very disco look? Anyway w/e about that, just how long are the blond child's arms?

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 00:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I think he's got a sweater tied around his neck, because that's a look that exists outside of 1980s preps vs nerds comedies.

https://www.gofundme.com/brooklyn-refugee-needs-home

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 02:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Why do they all look so miserable?

koogs, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 07:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

This must have been posted before. Bill Koch's son Wyatt and his fashion label: https://www.instagram.com/p/BYZH4TsloS6/?taken-by=wyatt.ingraham

Almost can't believe it's real.

Dan I., Wednesday, 20 December 2017 08:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xp bcos they're in court

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 08:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xxp You try living on poverty wages in the big city.

nickn, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/well/showering-morning-night.html

scraping the barrel here
just take a fucking shower

calstars, Saturday, 23 December 2017 02:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

you clicked and shared
their work is done

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 December 2017 09:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

my friends

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/29/dining/raw-water-unfiltered.html

j., Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

How's about all the Fortune 500 CEOs who get paid $100,000 a day to go golfing with each other?

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

A Zero Mass Water system, which extracts moisture from the air and stores the water, at a home in Oakland, Calif.

turns out Luke Skywalker got his start moisture farming on the west coast

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Juicero dude’s got a new scam!

DJI, Sunday, 31 December 2017 00:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

“Just take a breath of air,” said Mr. Friesen, a professor of materials science at Arizona State University. “Take a deep breath. No matter how wealthy or poor you are, you can take a breath and own that air that you breathe. And yet water — the government brings it to you.”

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 December 2017 06:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

~think abt it~

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:36 (one week ago) Permalink

No matter how wealthy or poor you are, you can take a breath and own that air that you breathe.

NB: Become poor enough and you are much more likely to stop breathing.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:34 (one week ago) Permalink

not sure that this belongs here tbh but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feh8CkaPkr4

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 4 January 2018 02:44 (one week ago) Permalink

actually i just got to the part where she buys a 2k Chanel bag, nevermind

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 4 January 2018 02:45 (one week ago) Permalink

bonus points of note:
she has named her aloe plants
backward shirt for some reason
the stool seats wrapped in crinoline
likes to wear louboutins around the apartment
"i can't look directly in the mirror without standing on my tiptoes... but i tell myself it's good exercise?"
the gallery of angry notes from the downstairs neighbor

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 4 January 2018 02:51 (one week ago) Permalink


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