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every time this stuff gets in the news i have an anxiety attack just reading about it

do you think we're all going to die of a plague, soon?

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:19 (seven years ago) link

I watched Contagion 2x in a row on a recent intercontinental flight and within 24 hours of landing I was sicker than I can ever remember being.

-Peter

queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:28 (seven years ago) link

that was a scary one because you know that's exactly how it's going to go down, too

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:32 (seven years ago) link

my dad is of the opinion that we're all gonna drop dead from mad cow disease eventually from a lifetime of pink slime exposure

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:33 (seven years ago) link

Ebola in Uganda, new flu killing East Coast seals...

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:34 (seven years ago) link

Who the HECK would choose Contagion for in-flight programming???

-Peter

queequeg (peter grasswich), Friday, 3 August 2012 01:35 (seven years ago) link

There is still this other side of me that wishes I'd embarked on one of my many fig tree dream careers of epidemiologist. I really get a kick form this kind of thing. Someday we will all be dead.

Crabbits, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:42 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

So how worried should we be now, anyway.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/us-heath-ebola-nigeria-idUSKBN0FU1LE20140725

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 July 2014 02:15 (five years ago) link

Fanning flames, paranoia: http://www.sfgate.com/news/medical/article/New-fears-about-Ebola-spread-after-plane-scare-5651721.php

DAKAR, Senegal (AP) — No one knows for sure just how many people Patrick Sawyer came into contact with the day he boarded a flight in Liberia, had a stopover in Ghana, changed planes in Togo, and then arrived in Nigeria, where authorities say he died days later from Ebola, one of the deadliest diseases known to man.

Now health workers are scrambling to trace those who may have been exposed to Sawyer across West Africa, including flight attendants and fellow passengers.

Health experts say it is unlikely he could have infected others with the virus that can cause victims to bleed from the eyes, mouth and ears. Still, unsettling questions remain: How could a man whose sister recently died from Ebola manage to board a plane leaving the country? And worse: Could Ebola become the latest disease to be spread by international air travel?

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:50 (five years ago) link

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/ebola-virus-top-sierra-leone-doctor-shek-umar-dies-of-disease-9636406.html

Sierra Leone's top virologist has died in the current outbreak.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:42 (five years ago) link

This is terrible, reports of hospitals shutting their doors, infected rotting corpses in the streets and ebola nurses downing tools after not getting paid measly $30 a week risk money pledged by the Sierra Leone gvt. Conditions described as "medieval" in parts where the health system has totally collapsed.

xelab, Monday, 4 August 2014 22:51 (five years ago) link

i heard a woman talking on the radio about it the other day and she was not holding back about how grim it was -- she was a reporter but i don't remember her name
she used the same analogy, like it was medieval in terms of what people believe about medicine as well as the degree to which people receive/shun medical care when they need it

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 4 August 2014 22:54 (five years ago) link

Little did we know all the right wing survivalists had the right idea for the wrong reason. It's not Obama they should fear, but ebola.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 August 2014 23:01 (five years ago) link

I read an article about the stress of being an ebola nurse. Encased in completely enveloping PPE in a hot climate for 12 + hour shifts. Dealing with infectious, dying patients that constantly fall out of beds, spray blood and diarrhea all over the place. The people that deal with these patients ... I just have no idea where they get their courage from.

xelab, Monday, 4 August 2014 23:06 (five years ago) link

Yeah,

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Sunday, 17 August 2014 17:02 (five years ago) link

Plague Inc is my favorite game

Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 17 August 2014 17:04 (five years ago) link

dr. brantly speaking now, was just discharged from emory

k3vin k., Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:18 (five years ago) link

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/tests-under-way-for-ebola-following-donegal-death-1.1904073

Shit got real. school with this guys sister

genderification: gone too far? (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:23 (five years ago) link

Pharmeceutical industry person tries to defend the industry re charges they have not done enough re ebola because it is in poor countries

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2014/08/18/washington-post-off-base-in-critiquing-pharma-efforts-in-ebola/

curmudgeon, Friday, 22 August 2014 14:29 (five years ago) link

the incentives for the pharmaceutical industry are what they are, unfortunately

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/25/ebolanomics

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 August 2014 04:28 (five years ago) link

Irish guy didn't have Ebola. Was a false alarm.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Saturday, 23 August 2014 07:07 (five years ago) link

South Africa and Senegal trying to bar some folks from countries at issue from entry

curmudgeon, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:44 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

First US case in Dallas. Take that NYC & LA! We're number one!

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:55 (five years ago) link

Yikes!

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:25 (five years ago) link

I wonder how many crisis of this kind will happen before countries take the WHO seriously and decide to invest in a proper international health structure to prevent this kind of outbreak. Freaking hate to see institutions like the FMI giving up to 130 millions $ but then pressure politicians in the region to go for austerity, it's a waste of money for everyone.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:37 (five years ago) link

ebola USED to be at the top of my list of irrational fears. presbyterian hospital is about 5 miles north of where i'm sitting right now.

welp

i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:07 (five years ago) link

#patientzero

i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:15 (five years ago) link

The Frontline piece on this a week or so ago was eye-opening. Hospitals that are barely more than cordoned off fields, mass graves, disinfecting the back of trucks (where patients ride, near death) by tossing in buckets of bleach, doctors and other aid workers more or less forced to visit villages free of any special suits for fear of scaring the shit out of everyone, children orphaned and alone overnight. Just heartbreaking. It's both a matter of doctors struggling to keep up with a rapidly and easily spreading illness and a population almost impossible to isolate. Bodies being dumped and left by the side of the road, families taking members out of quarantine, superstitious treatments co-mingling with modern medicine ...

Here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ebola-outbreak/

The saddest bit may be at the end, where grave diggers, one by one, list all their families members who have succumbed.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:23 (five years ago) link

I'm just a few miles further away, art. Drive by it almost every day as I head up to Richardson.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:48 (five years ago) link

Your risk of dying from ebola (total confirmed 2014 ebola deaths: a few thousand worldwide) is still lower than your risk of dying due to complications related to seasonal influenza (on average, 5800-7500 a year in the US). Get a flu shot. Don't get too preoccupied by ebola.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:59 (five years ago) link

wanna c&p that on every damn facebook post I see for the next week

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:05 (five years ago) link

be my guest

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:05 (five years ago) link

i have total confidence in the medical system to properly handle any other arising cases. that said, i am still illogically terrified

i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:27 (five years ago) link

Sick Burn I saw on FB:

Don't worry about Ebola spreading in Dallas. The Cowboys have shown us that people in Dallas can't catch anything.

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:21 (five years ago) link

Ebola spreads by physical contact with bodily secretions and fluids. That makes it easier to contain in a place like the USA or Europe, where there are lots of medical facilities and a patient's recent contacts can be quickly discovered and tracked down.

Even so, if ebola strongly establishes itself in Africa, with a reservoir of infected people who keep the virus continuously viable and circulating, then not only will massive numbers of africans die, but ebola will keep leaping to other parts of the world, including the USA and Europe. It can be compared to sparks thrown out from a wildfire, which land on tinder and start other fires away from the main fire. You can put out many of these small satellite fires, but it is hard to extinguish all of them, and the more new places that start burning the harder the firestorm is to keep contained.

Aimless, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:43 (five years ago) link

That's a good analogy. I really wish international focus between the Ebola outbreak and ISIL was better divided.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:56 (five years ago) link

run for the hills imo

the late great, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:05 (five years ago) link

*not the hills of West Africa, tho*

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 05:57 (five years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/LHm72Rq.png

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:17 (five years ago) link

ugh goddamned parody accounts :(

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:19 (five years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-spreading-in-west-africa.html

this is a very difficult article to read

apparently the problem is not money but organization and time

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:27 (five years ago) link

Oh jeez:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/02/texas-ebola_n_5919522.html

at what point is it ok for me to start panicking?

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:39 (five years ago) link

supposed to go to the state fair this weekend and have resolved not to touch any surfaces and to bathe myself in hand sanitizer after it is all over.

i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:43 (five years ago) link

the panic is hilarious. Especially from folks who drive on the streets of Dallas. You should be much more afraid of north Texas drivers than ebola.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:04 (five years ago) link

until there is an effective vaccine I consider ebola as a threat, but in the USA it is a long term threat, which gives the researchers plenty of time to develop that vaccine.

Aimless, Thursday, 2 October 2014 16:18 (five years ago) link

truly despicable imo for rand paul, a physician, to be saying things like this to score political points

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sen-rand-paul-sounds-ebola-alarm/

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 October 2014 17:56 (five years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-spreading-in-west-africa.html

this is a very difficult article to read

apparently the problem is not money but organization and time

― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, October 1, 2014 7:27 PM (Yesterday

disorganization and lack of preparedness (not to mention distrust of medical authorities, belief in traditional healing, etc) are consequences of poverty, though. this was from a few weeks ago but i think it's a good primer

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1409494

First, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia are resource-poor countries already coping with major health challenges, such as malaria and other endemic diseases, some of which may be confused with EVD. Next, their borders are porous, and movement between countries is constant. Health care infrastructure is inadequate, and health workers and essential supplies including personal protective equipment are scarce. Traditional practices, such as bathing of corpses before burial, have facilitated transmission. The epidemic has spread to cities, which complicates tracing of contacts. Finally, decades of conflict have left the populations distrustful of governing officials and authority figures such as health professionals. Add to these problems a rapidly spreading virus with a high mortality rate, and the scope of the challenge becomes clear

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:08 (five years ago) link

I have no science to back this up by the UV is brutal down here (and worse in New Zealand); does that kill more virus out in the environment?

Locked borders and mandatory quarantine for arrivals came in pretty early, but on the other hand we had a direct flight to Wuhan right through Chinese New Year and generally a lot of Chinese (and other) tourists through the summer Lockdown hasn’t been severe and people have been pretty shit at distancing, very few masks out there, but lockdown started early in terms of the curve.

Did we get exposed to a less virulent strain than the one that spread through Europe and the US?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 22 May 2020 12:51 (three days ago) link

Most Australians live in about six cities

We're a little bit like that, though probably not as extreme: our six biggest cities account for 40% of our population. (Toronto and Montreal account for about a quarter.)

Did we get exposed to a less virulent strain than the one that spread through Europe and the US?

I wonder if there's some validity to that.

clemenza, Friday, 22 May 2020 12:57 (three days ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52754280

UK scientists are to begin testing a treatment that it is hoped could counter the effects of Covid-19 in the most seriously ill patients.

It has been found those with the most severe form of the disease have extremely low numbers of an immune cell called a T-cell.

T-cells clear infection from the body.

The clinical trial will evaluate if a drug called interleukin 7, known to boost T-cell numbers, can aid patients' recovery.

It involves scientists from the Francis Crick Institute, King's College London and Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital.

They have looked at immune cells in the blood of 60 Covid-19 patients and found an apparent crash in the numbers of T-cells.

Prof Adrian Hayday from the Crick Institute said it was a "great surprise" to see what was happening with the immune cells.

"They're trying to protect us, but the virus seems to be doing something that's pulling the rug from under them, because their numbers have declined dramatically.

The researchers say these findings pave the way for them to develop a "fingerprint test" to check the levels of T-cells in the blood which could provide early indications of who might go on to develop more severe disease.

But it also provides the possibility for a specific treatment to reverse that immune cell decline.

Manu Shankar-Hari, a critical care consultant at Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital, said that around 70% of patients that he sees in intensive care with Covid-19 arrive with between 400-800 lymphocytes per microlitre. "When they start to recover, their lymphocyte level also starts to go back up," he added.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 May 2020 12:58 (three days ago) link

We've been testing like crazy, that's the big thing. My state has had 1 case in the last 4 weeks, but they're still doing thousands of tests.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 22 May 2020 13:00 (three days ago) link

This would in theory explain the very broad range of reactions to the virus, I guess? (xpost)

Matt DC, Friday, 22 May 2020 13:01 (three days ago) link

We're a little bit like that, though probably not as extreme: our six biggest cities account for 40% of our population. (Toronto and Montreal account for about a quarter.)

40% of the Australian population live in Sydney or Melbourne. In all the top 6 cities account for two-thirds of the Australian population.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 13:09 (three days ago) link

.. I feel like I had a similar conversation to this on here recently?

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 13:10 (three days ago) link

clearly the UK is controlled by Big Tea

kinder, Friday, 22 May 2020 13:34 (three days ago) link

And Big Tea is controlled by Jews or Muslims apparently:

https://www.newsweek.com/covid-19-conspiracy-theories-england-1505899

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 15:57 (three days ago) link

At least they've separated England out from the rest of the UK there.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 15:57 (three days ago) link

Hope Trump dies from taking it

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:33 (three days ago) link

Independent Armed 70-year-old tried to steal helicopter so he could fly to a hospital and free quarantined coronavirus patients

Police in Michigan have arrested an armed 70-year-old man who allegedly plotted to steal a US Coast Guard helicopter and rescue hospitalised coronavirus patients.

Arenac County Central Dispatch warned police about Mr McFadden’s motives, with concerns that he was an ex-Michigan Militia member armed with guns.

mafia sleepover (Sanpaku), Friday, 22 May 2020 23:10 (three days ago) link

So according to the figures here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus, the US should be officially hitting 100,000 deaths some time this weekend. Is this a notable figure now or has the media spotlight moved on? Seems like it should be at least vaguely significant, I dunno.

Alert! The virus lives (Matt #2), Friday, 22 May 2020 23:33 (three days ago) link

CNN's web page will have a screaming headline, guaranteed. I don't mean to minimize the tragedy of these deaths--but CNN will treat it like the number 100,000 dropped out of the sky from nowhere, as opposed to a slow, steady march to that inevitable benchmark.

clemenza, Friday, 22 May 2020 23:37 (three days ago) link

And a slow steady march right past it, 1200 or 1400 a day for the foreseeable.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 May 2020 00:56 (two days ago) link

A quarter of French people would refuse to be vaccinated against the rona.

We are full of dummies here too.

Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:31 (two days ago) link

i hear people are really going back to normal in France. dinner parties, shopping, etc. My parents in law are never home.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:35 (two days ago) link

Le Monde had a good rundown of the Bill Gates microchip antivax conspiracy theory this morning and how it permeated the francosphere. Turns out Juliette Binoche subscribes to it as well.

Meanwhile, in Eastern Europe:

https://www.rferl.org/a/moldova-s-orthodox-church-lashes-out-at-anti-christ-plot-to-develop-virus-vaccine/30624250.html

pomenitul, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:37 (two days ago) link

"Turns out Juliette Binoche subscribes to it as well."

Y do u break heart? :'-(

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:17 (two days ago) link

💔

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:22 (two days ago) link

So over her >:(

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:23 (two days ago) link

tbh the UK and France being full of heid-the-ba's doesn't really surprise me.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:25 (two days ago) link

Isabelle Adjani has been peddling anti-vaxxer garbage since 2017, so Juliette Binoche is in good company.

pomenitul, Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:26 (two days ago) link

Yeah I just watched a bus go by packed with people, like pressed up against the glass. These are certainly not commuters. wishing this crisis over does not make it so.

Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:46 (two days ago) link

This belief in magical protection from harm seems to me like a fascinating manifestation of white/western privilege, a subconscious acceptance that the world is arranged to provide for your personal safety.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 May 2020 18:06 (two days ago) link

It kinda feels like the general attitude is rapidly shifting towards 'the weather's getting nicer so the pandemic is over, right?'. Can't wait to spend another several months in lockdown after cases spike again a few weeks from now.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 May 2020 18:11 (two days ago) link

it's just like how when hurricanes come and people say "it's not coming here" and think that saying "it's not coming here" will make it not come here.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 May 2020 18:45 (two days ago) link

(I'm one of those people that rails against hurricane hysteria but mostly at those civilians that misinterpret hurricane forecasts as being fixed in stone and don't know what a 'cone of uncertainty' is).

on the plus side, if we have one this year, we're already hunkered down.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 May 2020 18:46 (two days ago) link

Cone of Uncertainty is the name of my String Cheese Incident tribute band

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 23 May 2020 19:36 (two days ago) link

This belief in magical protection from harm seems to me like a fascinating manifestation of white/western privilege, a subconscious acceptance that the world is arranged to provide for your personal safety.

Euler is in Paris which is a long way from being a 'white' city tbh.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:19 (yesterday) link

Still definitely the West, though.

Nhex, Sunday, 24 May 2020 04:25 (yesterday) link

as I probably said a few days ago, people of African descent are largely wearing masks around here (& that's most people), whereas "whiter" looking people largely aren't. I think I'd say that older people tend to be wearing masks more than younger people as well, but I'm not as sure about that.

Joey Corona (Euler), Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:55 (yesterday) link

I can't really pin down demographics over here. the only group I see not wearing them more than others is high-school and college kids, but I've even seen them starting to.

last night, one of my friends said a pair of young adults behind her at a grocery store were audibly commenting on her mask and how uncomfortable it must be, making fun of her but intentionally loud enough for her to hear it.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:10 (yesterday) link

yeah I am constantly seeing gaggles of teenagers without masks standing about everywhere. it’s surreal

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:30 (yesterday) link

No covid concerns at the lake of the ozarks😳 #loto pic.twitter.com/Yrb4UNM64u

— Scott Pasmore (@scottpasmoretv) May 24, 2020

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:33 (yesterday) link

p sure Lake of the Ozarks is already a rich soup of communicable pathogens. Maybe coronavirus will simply be outcompeted by gonorrhea and opioid abuse

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:42 (yesterday) link

Peru is really bad right now, we have numerous friends there and what we're hearing is cases through the roof everywhere and no hospital beds

sleeve, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:49 (yesterday) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYjPDH2XgAA2C-N.png

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 May 2020 19:26 (yesterday) link

“My fingernails are breaking, I’ve got hangnails, I’ve been getting my nails done for 14 years … I’m very much into yoga, I can’t go to my Bikram yoga studios, I can’t go get my eyelashes done, I can’t go and socialize with the people that are my friends,” said Mississippian Hillary Angel Barq. “It’s led me to depression, it’s made me not feel sexual — I mean it’s awful.”

...

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 24 May 2020 19:55 (yesterday) link

Make America Feel Sexual Again

DJI, Sunday, 24 May 2020 21:07 (yesterday) link

I wonder if she's related to the root beer family?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 24 May 2020 21:22 (yesterday) link

She's engaged to an A&W, it's a scandal

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 24 May 2020 21:25 (yesterday) link

that masturbating inflatable bounce house fortune heir sounds like fun

StanM, Sunday, 24 May 2020 22:22 (yesterday) link

people are gonna kill us in the end

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 24 May 2020 23:26 (yesterday) link

I can't really pin down demographics over here. the only group I see not wearing them more than others is high-school and college kids, but I've even seen them starting to

I would agree that non-maskwearers in the grocery store are very rare and almost universally twentysomething/teens. Outside, almost everyone, including me, is unmasked (it's uncrowded enough here that people aren't close to each other for long.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 25 May 2020 01:34 (fifteen hours ago) link

-10 y life expectancy:

This is a remarkable chart. Your risk of dying in the UK from coronavirus is the same as "normal annual risk". https://t.co/Hli7YPoARs

Worth noting, this risk profile will be different if the health system is overwhelmed and will be different for other countries. pic.twitter.com/nIRZqlIjgq

— Akshat Rathi (@AkshatRathi) May 24, 2020

mafia sleepover (Sanpaku), Monday, 25 May 2020 14:32 (two hours ago) link

not surprisingly, it's already been misinterpreted

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 May 2020 14:42 (two hours ago) link

One way to think about that is: if you get coronavirus then your risk of dying that year is twice what it would otherwise be. That’s not a huge deal for a 30 year old because it’s very rare for 30 year olds to die, but it’s not great if you’re 80.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 May 2020 14:47 (one hour ago) link

yep. the chart puts it into a harrowing perspective. this is why I'm wearing a mask in the house around my dad.

i'm afraid to share the chart though because I know people will go "SEE, IT'S NO RISKIER THAN EVER!"

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 May 2020 14:51 (one hour ago) link


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