60% of Ohio nursing home staff refusing covid vaccine @GovMikeDeWine says— Marty Schladen (@martyschladen) December 30, 2020
it brings me little pleasure to advocate coercing people to do something that has not been specifically collectively bargained but I’m sorry, make them take it or they can stay home. (also pay them better.)
also this was published today, unfortunately it’s a sleepwalk by people who probably publish too much that takes no point of view and doesn’t bother getting into the detailshttps://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2774712
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 December 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link
60% of a specific nursing home, or 60% of ALL Ohio nursing homes? if the latter, holy shit
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
If it’s the latter, we are absolutely fucked.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
The vaccine is only 52% effective starting two weeks after the first dose. When you get the second dose, the vaccine is 91% effective seven days later. This is a reckless headline. https://t.co/sYHCIPiHmS— Nato Jacobs (@dcmadness202) December 30, 2020
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link
the UK plan is to vaccinate using a (completely untested!) protocol of waiting months to give the second dose https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55280671.
this a vaccine whose trial results are already pretty unclear. millions of partially immune people (how partially we don't know because we don't have any data!) behaving like they are totally immune, plus a virus that demonstrably mutates. could end badly!
I can't be the only one who is unexcited by the prospect of a purportedly more transmissible SARS-CoV-2 variant, possibly with mutations conferring partial antibody resistance, propagating in a UK population that is 'semi-immunized' for 12 weeks. Experiments in viral evolution...— Paul Bieniasz (@PaulBieniasz) December 30, 2020
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link
btw the untested single dose rollout seems like exactly the kind of big physics brain idea that comes from dominic cummings types.
people have advocated for *running trials* to see whether it's a good idea (e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/18/opinion/coronavirus-vaccine-doses.html), but the UK attitude seems to be let's just do it and be legends.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
Let's just muddle through, what?
― josef cake (Matt #2), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
until it's over we'll have to, somehow
― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
Oh great thank you mainstream press.
California nurse tests positive over a week after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine: ABC https://t.co/wTZNqtTBmD pic.twitter.com/xwceAlccW6— Reuters (@Reuters) December 30, 2020
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
More on that 52%
1/ The MHRA has approved a longer gap between doses for both the AstraZeneca vaccine and the Pfizer vaccine. The latter has concerned some people. Specifically many are citing a figure of 52% for protection after the first dose.Here is why this 52% figure isn't useful [1/n] pic.twitter.com/ZdFJNMtRxd— Theo Sanderson (@theosanderson) December 30, 2020
― stet, Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link
Nearly 4000 dead over the last 24h in the US… jfc
― pomenitul, Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link
holiday reporting is going to be unevenly distributed, so i'm hoping the 4000 is just offsetting a lower-than-usual day
but yes. it is grim
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link
grim should be dictionary.com word of the year for 2020
In less than ten months, covid-19 has killed more than one of every thousand US residents -- 338,500 dead out of a population of about 335,000,000.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYy6YY0EC94
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link
this is as depressing as it sounds from the URL. this was new to me: "Keep in mind that, in 1947, New York City vaccinated 5 million people against smallpox in two weeks." https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/americas-vaccine-rollout-disaster.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 04:06 (three years ago) link
also can we arrest this person
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/30/951736164/some-500-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-intentionally-destroyed-hospital-says
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 05:18 (three years ago) link
"accidentally" my ass
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link
jebus. so thievery or apocalypto?
― Nhex, Thursday, 31 December 2020 06:02 (three years ago) link
the email from my hospital's chief medical officer today said that out of ~9k people offered the vaccine by email, ~8% declined and ~40% had not responded
― k3vin k., Thursday, 31 December 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link
_lol we're all quite literally gonna die_And going to gift the world a vaccine-resistant strain, seemingly (because the selection potential to create one will be huge with vaccinated people eating out to help out beside infectious people)
― Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link
xp I expect email may not be the best way of inviting elderly patients? where I am there's pleas on local Facebook groups from the practice to pass the information on to elderly family, friends and neighbours... takeup seems great so far but comms are really rushed, presumably due to short notice of obtaining vaccine supplies...
― kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link
Just received this email cancelling my 2nd dose of the Pfizer vaccine. On the basis of UK government guidance yesterday. This means that the vaccine is not being delivered as licensed. I DID NOT consent to receive an off-label drug with NO evidence of benefit with a single dose. pic.twitter.com/ZDtIjm1z8W— Dr Katrina Farrell (@farrell_katrina) December 31, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link
what a shitshow
― kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
So near yet so far
― meanwhile back at the song (Matt #2), Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
Kinda feel the government won't go through with it, given some of the reaction...but hey ho, let's see what they do.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 December 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
This might be the most insane and reckless thing these idiots have tried yet
― Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
What are they trying to achieve by this approach? Give out more first doses to more people?
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
i think so, yeah
― kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
― kinder, Thursday, December 31, 2020 9:37 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago)
these aren’t patients, they’re employees
― k3vin k., Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
Just more failed state bs from dimwits high on their own supply. It’s a gamble but if it pays off by Jove we’ll be laughing
― Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
people will refuse to get vaxed and simultaneously complain that things won't return to normal.
it's sort of like...
we offered you the ability to restore to some semblance of interactive activity by wearing a mask. you refused.we asked you to quarantine for a month like everybody else was doing. you refused.we're now giving you a vaccine - you refused.
you just want things to go back to normal with zero effort on your part is what it boils down to, if you're one of these people.
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link
i had to listen to some idiots whining that "they're gonna make us get vaxed to go to Yankee Stadium again. that just ain't right mannnn"
they should require fans get vaccinated against the sickness that is sitting through another ALCS, I would take that one
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link
the lady sitting next to him called it a 'racket' to make money, then said she was a teacher not long after.
god help us
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
I checked: God is on a cig break.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
p much we are all living in a low-security lunatic asylum
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
what if God smelled like a bus
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
just a bum like one of us
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
If anti-vaxxers make this shit drag on for another year, we're gonna start seeing some violent reactions to their pisspants baby tantrums.
― Telly Salivas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 December 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link
Sorry kevin, I misunderstood!
― kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
some of us (*looks at myself*) are very bad at responding to emails in general though!
― k3vin k., Thursday, 31 December 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
Israel has vaccinated over 10% of its population already.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
Honestly of all the things the us has screwed up this year, the vaccine rollout is the most depressing. Almost a year to prepare.
I’ve posted this before, but this was written in Mayhttps://newrepublic.com/article/157704/coronavirus-vaccine-united-states-health-care“The U.S. simply does not have anything resembling the infrastructure necessary to ensure that everyone gets anything, including food or water or shelter, let alone something that requires access to a health care worker. To the extent that we have ever aspired to this sort of capability, those traditions have long eroded, worn down by our debased politics. We do not have a National Health Service–style system, which was able to produce a (poorly handled but nevertheless extant) list of patients who were at high risk for the coronavirus. My mother in Britain, who has received immunotherapy for lung cancer for the past two years, was on this list. She received a text from the government telling her to stay inside for 12 weeks, plus a phone call and two letters, which also advised her of government resources for food and help for the extremely vulnerable and suggested that she spend time with the windows open or sitting on her doorstep.”
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
“and one dose of a two-dose vaccine.”
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
Feel like one of the outcomes of this is going to be US culture becoming like I dunno Mexico or Russia, where *everyone* (not just the “don’t tread on me” types) assumes everything the government says is a malicious or incompetent lie.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
Oh come on, that second dose will be forthcoming, for those that live long enough
― kinder, Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:18 PM (thirty-nine seconds ago)
this is sort of the point of the last 40 years of the conservative movement!
― k3vin k., Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link