msnbc: The Place for POLLitics

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How msnbc became Fox's Liberal Evil Twin

Which one of these smug bastards/bastettes is the LEAST detrimental to the quality of public discourse. Are any of them worth a damn?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Rachel Maddow 16
Chris Hayes 9
Tamron Hall 4
Melissa Harris-Perry 3
Touré 2
Krystal Ball 2
Chuck Todd 1
Willie Geist 1
Al Sharpton 1
Chris Matthews 1
Alex Witt 0
Lawrence O'Donnell 0
Ed Schultz 0
Martin Bashir 0
Steve Kornacki 0
S.E. Cupp 0
Andrea Mitchell 0
Alex Wagner 0
Thomas Roberts 0
Chris Jansing 0
Mika Brzezinksi 0
Joe Scarborough 0


Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

Joe Scarborough seems like a dude with a dead hooker in his past.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

My only experiences with Morning Joe come from the Daily Show clips and that bit from last week where everyone sat around awkwardly when Chris Matthews went apeshit on that RNC Chairman.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

RIP Dylan Ratigan

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

hayes, maddow & harris-perry are totally awesome. the only watchable hosts on cable news, and some of the best major political commenters imo

i voted for hayes cuz he's cute

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

never seen hayes show so no idea how we works on tv but enjoy his writing and credit him w/ the nation doing a sports issue which will continue to amuse me for a long time.

balls, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i like Hayes. i have a lot of respect for Maddow, but there is something slightly off-putting about her. she's got a smart-ass/ silly thing that i personally don't mind watching but she sure as shit isn't going to win over any converts. not her mission though so eh

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

unfortunately his show is on at pre-sunrise hours on weekends. i'll catch some segments online tho.

was sorta interested in alex wagner cuz she used to exec edit the fader but she seemed really hacky on bill maher recently

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

Wagner mostly just mediates the guests so I can't get a read on her editorially but I also have a mad crush on her + amusing to hear Floating Points or whatevs going into ad breaks

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

Chris Hayes' show is the only one sharp enough for me to actually stream three days later.

And it got me to read his new book.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

Hayes' downfall is he looks exactly like -- the resemblance is scary -- one of my best bros, also a denizen of DC; my friend is often confused for Hayes when in Dupont Circle.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i haven't seen wagner's show but on maher she was, like, trumpeting up obama killing al-awlaki and stuff. maybe she's still trying to find her voice tho, i'm not sure how long she's been doing cable news.

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

she wasn't at all cool with the killing citizens and we're not going to tell you why it is legal thing, and i think she had greenwald on to talk about it. can't remember though.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

Being essentially cableless, I do not have MSNBC or FOX either. The only person mentioned in this poll who I have seen in action is Maddow. She didn't seem especially awful in the few minutes I have been exposed to her.

Aimless, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

otoh Chuck Todd is one of the worst nerds alive.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, who is Krystal Ball?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

I like Rachel Maddow a lot, and Chris Hayes too (but like J0rdan said, his show comes on at a ridiculous hour on weekends). Alex Wagner seems way too ideological, even for msnbc.

I miss Norah O'Donnell.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

otoh Chuck Todd is one of the worst nerds alive.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

he went to UM

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

btw

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

of the ones i have seen barely i would rank maddow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matthews >> o'donnell > scarborough > schultz > sharpton. note: i have seen maybe 2 hours top of the above combined (minus matthews). bring back charles grodin.

balls, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

a Kendall guy!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

maybe i have the wrong read on wagner. i was sorta surprised at how she came off on maher (all the bad stereotypes of an msnbc host tho far off of ed) given her background. does she host weekday stuff?

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

I have seen S E Cupp :(

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

She has the noon EST show on weekdays xpost

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

o'donnell > scarborough > schultz > sharpton

I'd throw all these dudes out the window of a moving bus.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Scarborough also a Floridian -- ugh. Sorry, guys!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, who is Krystal Ball?

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:36 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

an accountant who unsuccessfully ran for congress

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

i have a very visceral hatred of Martin Bashir and I think he might be the worst of the lot tbh

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

Scarborough also a Floridian

Panhandle Floridian...no one should hold those people against the rest of the state.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

One of my favorite msnbc things is watching Tamron Hall get irritated by a guest.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

MH-P is one of the greatest living people

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

Her lisp is adorable.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

it's been often said that there is no such person, but who among current tv news ppl is close enough to cronkite that you could imagine a president saying ""if i've lost cronkite, I've lost middle america." like who is the most middle american tv new person, or who is trying to be that person the most? brian williams?

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

"if I've lost rachel maddow...I've lost middle america"

iatee, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

shep

Newgod joins this board, and quickly he's some dude (goole), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think Wolf Blitzer's own mother would want him found if he was lost.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

The question is no longer valid, Mordy. We find channels that mirror our belief systems. Of course, since I don't have cable I'm watching Diane Sawyer now. Draw your own conclusions.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

ok, so assume question is valid. or that someone can be striving for something that no longer exists.

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

I think one of the only areas in which NBC wins out is in the nightly news sector. Brian Williams seems to be liked by most everyone, but he's nowhere near having the influence of Walter Kronkite.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

cronkite didn't have the influence of cronkite tbh

balls, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

fuxk, why do I always want to spell Cronkite with a K?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

i don't have cable so i haven't seen much other than a few clips, but going with chris hayes just because i liked his columns for the nation so much back in the day.

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

alex wagner because HOT

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

Brian Williams is scary because he's a blank. Remember when crusty William Holden complained about TV babies? He meant Brian Williams. The guy offers no inflections, turns of phrase, or even warmth. He's a guy with varnished looks who reads briefs.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

(I'm a partisan of the late Peter Jennings partisan)

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

Williams is blank at the desk, but always funny and charming elsewhere.

I loved Peter Jennings. He was the best.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

He's great on 30 Rock though.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

I agree that Alex Wagner is totally adorbs, btw. I just can't vote for her.

http://accidentalalien.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/alexwagner-politcsdaily.png

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

haha -- scratch off that last partisan. Second glass of wine etc

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ "the 'Believe' singer"

paula boradwell (crüt), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

so the cycle is basically morning joe with younger but equally terrible people

k3vin k., Thursday, 28 February 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

Chris Hayes is taking over Ed Schultz's 8pm weeknight slot. Kind of bummed. I liked the 2 hour format and the long discussions it allowed.

Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Better than an alarm clock on Sat and Sunday morns.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

very dope

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

Toure is so awful.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

I record Up or just watch it online. It also neatly contains my msnbc watching to two days a week. I like that they can look back on a story and discuss it rather than covering the daily bullshit. I hope it stays a panel.

Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Kornacki can be okay-ish on election breakdowns sometimes, but other than that there is nothing good about The Cycle from what I've seen.

Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

I'll miss Up, but anything that gets Ed Schultz off the air is a good thing.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

Oh I just saw he's getting a weekend evening show. Ungh.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

Steve Kornacki to take up over Up.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

i've had msnbc on for hours now, with no audio, while i'm working (too lazy to even turn it off, i suppose). from just the video feed, here's my impression of their current focus:

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Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:18 (ten years ago) link

Dems watching need red meat

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:21 (ten years ago) link

not upset at msnbc taking christie down. still, it's a little ridiculous.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:22 (ten years ago) link

i don't need red-meat, anyway. i need waffles and scotch.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:23 (ten years ago) link

it's only not ridiculous when Steve Kornacki leads the charge; the rest is baroque.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:24 (ten years ago) link

haha

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:24 (ten years ago) link

steve kornacki is a very serious journalist.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:25 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Joe Scarbrough's dead pig eyes

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 2 December 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link

Mark Halpern's spittle-flecked bootlicker mouth

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 2 December 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link

Panel of old white men nodding sagely at each other

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 2 December 2016 12:22 (seven years ago) link

http://i68.tinypic.com/2zdui69.jpg

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 2 December 2016 12:25 (seven years ago) link

Maddow is insufferable. love Joe & Hayes. Matthews can be fun.

flappy bird, Friday, 2 December 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

hayes is smart and usually right on but he's smug and annoying as fuck

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

i hate most of these people tbh

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link

he's not nearly as smug as the rest of this crew. i enjoyed his book Twilight of the Elites. and he's a better listener/conversationalist than Maddow or fucking Melissa Harris-Perry (glad she's gone).

flappy bird, Friday, 2 December 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

Joy Reid thinks Russia is still Communist. She went to Harvard.

Iago Galdston, Friday, 2 December 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...
one month passes...
six months pass...

i can't watch rachel maddow for even a minute anymore. i can't hear her voice. it drives me nuts. what happened?

i mean i watch morning joe in the morning now but i can't take even a sliver of maddow.

scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

maria is the same way actually. can't take her. and maria was definitely a fan. i think i was too but it was so long ago i can't remember when it was. dubya years i guess.

scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

kinda like when i accidentally hear amy goodman on the car radio. i jump out of my skin.

scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link

Morning Joe was always pretty terrible but they've accidentally spun closer to reality over the years.

Rachel's show has just become an insane litany of Russia Russia Russia and dumbass Trump impeachment/arrest countdowns. I can't watch it.

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 14 April 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link

Chris Hayes is great though

frogbs, Saturday, 14 April 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link

Who voted for Chris Matthews??

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 15 April 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link

i would vote for mika if this poll was today. fuck trump.

scott seward, Sunday, 15 April 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link

xxp I wish Twitter Chris Hayes hosted his show

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 15 April 2018 07:22 (six years ago) link

this joy reid stuff is so fucking dumb man

k3vin k., Friday, 27 April 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

yeah I agree

Dan S, Friday, 27 April 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

Did anything dumber develop today?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 27 April 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/27/17286392/joy-reid-msnbc-lgbtq-gay-hack

maybe 'weird' would have been a better word to use

k3vin k., Sunday, 29 April 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

what our poll winner's up to these days

Glenn Beck 2009 + Maddow 2019 is the greatest crossover event in history pic.twitter.com/D1NElGBq3U

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) January 31, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 31 January 2019 09:31 (five years ago) link

ROOSHA WILL FREEZE US

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link

I really like the Why Is This Happening? podcast when I remember to listen to it. I appreciate hearing a discussion of our current reality that manages to make me feel better informed but also slightly saner.

JoeStork, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

This would be hilarious if it weren’t so slanderous and destructive. Liberals laugh at Fox news but this is just as toxic.

Also, ex-FBI, totally credible source here. https://t.co/8OXKk8VI3K

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) November 24, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 November 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

jesus

so glad the Democrats have defaulted back to Cold War paranoia

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 25 November 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link

joy reid is by far the worst msnbc host

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

at least in terms of her vendetta against bernie. cf.

I didn't answer your biased reporting about Bernie during the last 2 years @JoyAnnReid. But don't ever use me to demean my husband. I am very happy & very proud to be Bernie's wife. Your perception couldn't be more wrong. Have you ever talked with him? You've never spoken w/me. https://t.co/SZG7uV8cfO

— Jane O'Meara Sanders (@janeosanders) November 29, 2017

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

but yeah, the cold war paranoia stuff is obviously not limited to her

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

Isaac Chotiner interviews Chris Hayes.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link


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