Seriously, though, if status and celebrity is important to Musk, he *should* pay people like Stephen King!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link
the 'charge for verified' thing would probably work if you restricted it to just brands who are using Twitter to advertise
― frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link
brands might just fuck off at some point, not because $20 is a lot to them, but because twitter is a bad place for them
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link
He has some idea that doing this will “solve bots and spam” so I think he doesn’t actually care about the price, and he thinks $20 is low.
But if he’s doing this for the revenue then there is no model of charging advertisers or celebrities for use that gets you to 1bn/year.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link
My wife works in advertising and that is her take on this. It's also brought up in that Verge piece. Twitter's value as an advertising vector is entirely linked to its reputation as a site safe for advertisers.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link
what does this have to do with bots and spam? I would guess those accounts are not verified, so, uh...I don't get it
the fact that he's trying to negotiate Stephen King down from $20 to $8 is pretty strong evidence that he's not really serious about this and that this is in fact one of those "new boss" moves like Trump's awful Foxconn deal which is intended to show investors and the public that you're willing to make big splashy decisions. I kinda suspect that it wont happen at all.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link
this guy clearly been reading my posts on the state of social media
Last week I had a lot of conversations about whether social media was dying or not. I don't think it is but it did make me think about shifts away from text and how Twitter is Geriatric Social Media https://t.co/UEvhKVGVJe pic.twitter.com/8jEAxbQx3P— Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel) November 1, 2022
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link
yeah this makes little to zero sense, since said botnet owners and spam accounts might be willing to pay $240 per year for the appearance of legitimacy
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link
🤷🏻♂️
I will explain the rationale in longer form before this is implemented. It is the only way to defeat the bots & trolls.— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link
this is already dumber than i anticipated
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
yeah feel silly for thinking he might play it straight lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
The way to defeat bots & trolls obviously would be to offer free-but-rigorous verification for anyone who wants it. He's doing the opposite, so he's either dumb or disingenuous (or both obviously).
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link
also lmao @ him seeing Stephen King telling him to fuck off and going "uh, would you pay $8?" such a beta move
― frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link
I wonder if businesses can actually tie data that shows Twitter adverts actually caused sales
I see businesses to be more keen to advertise places like Paramount+ - as more studios rip their stuff out of netflix
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link
have they considered adding different pieces of flair for different types of accounts in addition to the verified badge?
for people with ".eth" in their username they could add a badge for that instead. those people would pay
maybe a badge to indicate interest groups, like verifying someone is a twitch streamer with a number of subscribers over a threshold
― mh, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link
a badge to indicate your account has been active over a decade without getting permabanned
NFT owners could put an octagon border around their NFT profile pics. did you know? no? worked out well!
― 龜, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link
make them pay
― mh, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link
I knew that, even if only because these people get ruthlessly mocked the instant they step outside their cryptobubbles
― frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
ten years later, haggling with Steven King about paying money to post on the bird sitehttps://t.co/7H37to05mc— /📷 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐱 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐰 📷/ (@HongPong) November 1, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link
otoh he did put hairs on a man
― rob, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link
given how much money gets spent on Twitter ads I'm sure they have this data but yeah I'd be curious how much that's changed over the last few years. and how much it's going to change now that a right-wing birdbrain has decided to make himself the very public face of the platform.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link
Lol we're fucked https://t.co/obO3GvojLy pic.twitter.com/pvyYhutBiT— Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier) November 1, 2022
starting to understand why ol' Musky was so desperate to get out of this deal
― frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link
The banks that lent Elon money to take over Twitter are admitting that they're in for a "huge" haircut https://t.co/CesZzGUGVF pic.twitter.com/c9aVxUOzLf— Henry Farrell (@henryfarrell) November 1, 2022
Shit like this bolsters my belief that Elon will be fine, even as Twitter goes down in flames.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link
wonder how much he ends up selling twitter to some private equity fund for, $5b maybe, less or maybe much less, 0 + liabilities perhaps
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link
looking forward to hearing the news in a few years that twitter is now owned by macedonian online gambling company or w/e
― rob, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
" I owe the bank $100,000, that's my problem. If I owe the bank $1,000,000,000, that's their problem."
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link
eventual musk take: inadvertently destroying the rats nest that is twitter to clear the way for whatever comes next was my greatest accomplishment
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
i guess if you want to split hairs theyre also for insane rich people, thats really more their image, but most of their sales you have to think come from the suckers
I like thinking about this stuff because I know some car guys but I only know one with a lambo. he has bonkers amounts of money and never feels validated by the world and the car is so clearly "well, fuck you, I get THIS," but at the same time, fuck those are sick ass cars
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link
I mean, he's making X the Everything App, think about how much everything generates in sales per year
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link
i rode in a lambo once it was nuts barely a car more like a jet
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link
automakers that cater to the "carriage trade"
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link
btw from a business standpoint and I would guess this is something that will very shortly annoy the shit out of musk, Twitter's reach & effectiveness is not jack shit compared to FB or IG. or probably TikTok, I don't keep up on that front. FB has twice the users to begin with, a suite of really useful stats & business tools, and is very responsive to business clients. twitter has "well...we'll verify you and you can promote your tweet if you want idk???" its function for business is brand-building mainly
xp I have not ridden in a lambo and am jealous
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link
Twitter will become like Yahoo, being bounced around between unenthusiastic telecom conglomerates for years to come, a shadow of its former glory
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link
I have not ridden in a lambo and am jealous
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, November 1, 2022 1:42 PM (thirty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
it was cool but what i really wanted to do was drive it, i did ask lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
some of the 70s Lamborghinis are really elegant cars, nothing like the Transformers they are today
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link
looooooool
You will also get:- Priority in replies, mentions & search, which is essential to defeat spam/scam- Ability to post long video & audio- Half as many ads— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link
lmao half as many ads how generous
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, November 1, 2022 1:45 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
it is true they are beautiful but lambo is kinda all about being a ludicrous transformer
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link
Also you will get a free iron-on transfer and a tote bag - while supplies last
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
this is a pretty reasonable conclusion tbh, still dont know if anyone will want it, also actually verifying people is a big job, if the check becomes unreliable and scammers get them its counterproductive
Twitter’s current lords & peasants system for who has or doesn’t have a blue checkmark is bullshit. Power to the people! Blue for $8/month.— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link
he's just making this shit up as he goes along
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
happy to remain a peasant
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
And that's all you'll ever be to him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link
"What do you mean essential oils won't cure my cancer? I got this information from a blue check doctor on Twitter?"
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
This seems like a stupid plan.- pay to prevent your replies being hidden- but you still get ads- this will prevent spam and scammers- wait can’t they pay that every month as well???- profit
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
this thread reminded me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-T1MYyt-Dw
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link
sure man ok
Price adjusted by country proportionate to purchasing power parity— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
using a VPN to connect to india to pay for twitter blue and nba league pass for cheap
― 龜, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link
scammers get them
What if - and hear me out - the scammer *runs the company*?
I asked my wife, and she said that Twitter ads have a high conversion level, which means people do click, buy, sign up, etc. She said that in this regard Twitter is much better than FB, but right now TikTok is way better than everyone.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link