what are dreams?

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what do you think? are they mystical encounters we have whilst journeying out-of-body, or are they a side effect of the brain 'processing' information from daily life, etc etc etc ...........

donna (donna), Sunday, 22 September 2002 01:38 (twenty-three years ago)

A chance for some weird stuff to go down, sometimes horrible ("My mom is dead!" leading to waking up and realizing that she wasn't, thank heavens), sometimes good but therefore even more annoying when one wakes ("The new My Bloody Valentine album, at last!" *wakes* "Oh FUCK!").

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)

dreams are conciousness trying to focus on it's own marginalia.

mike (ro)bott, Sunday, 22 September 2002 01:47 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah ok but what is your definition of consciousness?

donna (donna), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I would guess dreams are a side effect of the brain processing, with a higher-than-usual amount of subconscious thoughts thrown to the surface.

I'm very disturbed about dreams today, as last night I dreamt I was having sex with Freud!! Does this mean I'm more messed up than I thought?

nory (nory), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Depends on the quality of the sex, I'd figure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:05 (twenty-three years ago)

i agree, if it was good then you are doing just fine nory..:-)

donna (donna), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Um, it was good.
Surprising, isn't it? I wouldn't've thought Freud to be a good lover...

nory (nory), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:08 (twenty-three years ago)

i dream about breaking into people's house and scrawling grafitti a lot.

mike (ro)bott, Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:13 (twenty-three years ago)

While a cigar might something just be that, perhaps he knew how to wield his.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:13 (twenty-three years ago)

hypnagogic state is where it's at!

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 September 2002 07:08 (twenty-three years ago)

ugh my dreams have been mental of late. there was the one where i was George Clooney, but i had amnesia... no more whisky before bedtime for me :(

katie (katie), Sunday, 22 September 2002 08:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I dreamt that a friend of mine fell down a chimney, he sent me a text message to inform me that he wasn't badly injured.

Yeah, this is the time of year for dream weirdness!

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 September 2002 08:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I had a dream that kind of freaked me out a little recently. I had this dream that someone I knew committed suicide and then it happened. I'm still kind of freaked out though. It wasn't the same person in my dream as in reality but it was pretty horrible. Strange.

Shaz, Sunday, 22 September 2002 08:17 (twenty-three years ago)

(and can we eat them?)

di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 22 September 2002 08:36 (twenty-three years ago)

What are you freaks talking about? Dreams are sublime and secret messages from the future/angels/space aliens/your inner child (delete as appropriate) and they are HERALDS OF THE FUTURE. Ignore them or scoff at them at your peril!

kate, Sunday, 22 September 2002 09:19 (twenty-three years ago)

i dreamt i cut the top of my finger off but it was like cheese inside and didn't bleed

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 22 September 2002 09:23 (twenty-three years ago)

"a dream is a wish your heart makes" vs "a dream is a memory of the FUTURE".

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Sunday, 22 September 2002 10:29 (twenty-three years ago)

in the future the pinefox will ask me if the beatles are "computer music"

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 22 September 2002 10:31 (twenty-three years ago)

John lennon (risen from the grave) + Mimeo!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 22 September 2002 12:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dreams are free TV I can't get cos my ariel don't work.

Pete (Pete), Sunday, 22 September 2002 12:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Dreams = mind's screen saver

bnw (bnw), Sunday, 22 September 2002 12:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I hardly ever dream, or possibly hardly ever remember dreams (I have no way of distinguishing these two), which is probably why I've not reported dream Pinefox sightings yet.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 22 September 2002 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I do apparently have many nightmares, my brother says he hears me scream sometimes but i think he says that just to get at me.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Last night I dreamt of Manderley again. I really need to turn off the Classic Movie Channel before I go to bed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Donna, you got a number for a good shrink?
My latest dream:

I am at a small beach, surrounded by cliffs. I stand on a raised outcrop of rock beyond which lies the sand. I levitate above the rock, rising slowly, my eyes closed. But I am watching myself from below, there I stand watching this fool levitate dangerously high. I watch him/me fall. His/my body smashes against the rock. Dumb-arse. Lucky he/I didn't break his/my leg. Wouldn't be nice to go through that again. Shit. It's not his/my leg that's broken. It's his/my back. He's/I'm all twisted. He's/I'm alive, but not for long. I die. Yet here I am at my funeral. I convince everyone that I am his twin brother. Much other bullshit happens that was so vivid upon waking last night, but seems so vague now. Damnit.

Perry Bernard (panterus), Monday, 23 September 2002 08:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I dream about Kylie, but she looks more like one of the Chuckle Brothers.

kinski (kinski), Monday, 23 September 2002 08:40 (twenty-three years ago)

''I dream about Kylie, but she looks more like one of the Chuckle Brothers.''

isn't that a nightmare?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 September 2002 10:29 (twenty-three years ago)

(Dreams are an act of literary interpretation! Anyway the same as life, really: random neurons fire and the brain must try and convert that stimulus into a coherent narrative, just like we try and convert our non-narrative daily lives into tidy "stories." I don't think we're able to conceive as anything not being a story anymore.)

(Nory sex with Freud was probably good because he was on loads of coke.)

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 23 September 2002 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

What's so affecting to me about dreams isn't the story in the sense of literally-what-happened, which rarely makes sense, but that I become so involved in them. I wake with this very specific need - almost always a need - that I can feel in my body somehow, but danged if I have any of the details. If it's training for the future they keep forgetting sections 1.1.0 thru 6.6.13 of the exercise. So little of what we do moment-to-moment in life is actually directed towards what it is we say we want that I'd imagine dreams would maybe give us a practice-room or a jungle-gym for this stuff but it just slips through your fingers every time.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 04:27 (twenty-three years ago)

my fingers every time, that is, your mileage may vary

you know how dreams usually present you with an obstacle - i.e. you're doing it - but with FREUD hahahaha; or you're running toward something but can't quite run fast enough - well.... sometimes i've managed to actually turn the corner, overcome the obstacle, bust free from the ooze that holds my feet down, tell the chef to throw me the fire-extinguisher so i can put out the fire, etc and it feels so good when you wake up, the need isn't there so much....

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 04:31 (twenty-three years ago)

the brain must try and convert that stimulus into a coherent narrative

That is actually my favorites part of dreaming. When something completely nonsensical occurs and in your dream you process it as "okay, I'm on a purple elephant... that is because... I'm going to work today." How your brain will adapt the storyline and its ever elastic logic to fit every random image is pretty neat.

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 04:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Flinstones

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)

flan scones

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 15:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Dreams are just.. dreams

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 29 September 2002 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
(Nory sex with Freud was probably good because he was on loads of coke.)

ha. you mean he thought he was great, but really all he managed was a small dick handshake. coke. ha.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)


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