i'm guy debord and i'm an alcoholic

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use yr deep cultural whatever plus yr brilliant imagination to explain how history wd be different if the right ppl had been pointed to the right 12-step programme...

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 23 September 2002 22:43 (twenty-three years ago)

(the answer to mine is the MAY EVENTS in PARIS 1968 btw: the situationist guru = off the wagon, france doesn't come to a standstill with a million people on the streets)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 23 September 2002 22:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Edgar Allan Poe straightens up and becomes a respectable member of the community => Baudelaire has no role model, therefore never writes Les Fleurs Du Mal => Rimbaud has no role model, therefore gets bored with poetry and winds up becoming a prominent Parisian laywer => Jim Morrison has no role model, therefore follows in his dad's footsteps and joins the Navy => Scott Stapp has no example to follow. Therefore, Poe is responsible for Creed!

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 23 September 2002 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry markess - i must be thick.

last year i saw the film that accompanied "the society of the spectacle" (sorry, can't remember the title) with my girlfriend and came out no closer to really grasping the situationist movement than i was when i went in. i've been meaning to get around to the text; probably will before christmas actually.

unfortunately, whenever the situationists come up in conversation, i'm left frozen, staring at the wall with absolutely nothing to say. this wd be another one of those times.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 01:54 (twenty-three years ago)

this is a bizarre proof that i'm posting in the right place; i mean i finally located a copy of "comments on the society of the spectacle" today....

gerard nerval meets a woman who keeps him too busy to commit suicide; france holds on to a genius and a lobster still has a home.

alfred jarry stops drinking; there are five ubu plays, including "ubu in the trenches" and "ubu in casablanca".

and i can't blame rimbaud for morrison; only the latter's poor understanding of norman o. brown.

― mike (ro)bott, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 02:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I will no doubt be lambasted for name-dropping again, but when I met Malcolm McLaren in Paris last month he assured me that Guy Debord, were he around today (and presumable sober enough to walk a straight line) would be an avid skateboarder. Perhaps the exercise and discipline required would have cured him of all his neurosis and rage and stopped him writing anything at all.

Rilke in his 'Letters To A Young Poet' advises his protege never to visit a shrink, for fear of being 'cured'. I must say I've always followed that. If you're lucky enough to have a neurosis of some productive kind you should treasure and honour it.

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 03:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Of course, a skateboarding Guy Debord means no Sex Pistols. Though I'm sure Green Day would still have existed.

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 03:08 (twenty-three years ago)

mark s: the greatest situ-hoax of all time is their role in 68!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 03:44 (twenty-three years ago)

we need them back...

― mike (ro)bott, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 04:01 (twenty-three years ago)

but we have fight club now.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 04:27 (twenty-three years ago)

excellent point, i never thought of it on those terms.

thanks sterling :)

― mike (ro)bott, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 05:30 (twenty-three years ago)

yes sterl i know but w/o that premise i wd never have been led to imagine GD skateboarding!!

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 07:43 (twenty-three years ago)

...can you imagine Guy skating down from Pigalle? Walking straight is one thing: being in command of wheels and all those steps: who nelly! :)

― Gordon, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 09:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Guys gives up the booze and joins Tin Machine

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Guy Debord, were he around today (and presumable sober enough to walk a straight line) would be an avid skateboarder.

Skateboarder=flaneur.

http://www.urbanstructure.com/urbanaction/ps.html

― OCP (OCP), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 13:33 (twenty-three years ago)

dylan thomas cleans up his act and becomes exceedingly polite and mild mannered. when he dies peacefully in his sleep at the ripe old age of 84 fans of his early work accuse him of selling out. robert zimmerman becomes "Zim" and enjoys only moderate success with his early folk records, and during his first tour of England is severely taunted then beaten to death by thuggish rocker donovan. i never hear the term "insult to the brain" referred to as a cause of death and therefore my eventual fate remains shrouded in mystery just like everybody else's.

― The Actual Mr. Jones (actual), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, right, so it WAS the alcohol that did all that stuff! You know cause when I was an alcoholic, I don't know, I just DIDN'T WRITE the situationist manifesto, I don't know why, like it came to me and I thought, 'Oh God, that is just too predictable, for an alcoholic to do that, being an alcoholic and all,' and so I just decided fuck it, I'm not going to BOTHER writing it down. So some loser actually DID IT! What a nerd, like, did he not GET that the point of being an alcoholic is to emotionally abuse your spouse and puke? Man if I meet ever meet any of these 'alcoholics' like Badalar or Rimbad or whoever, I'm gonna tell them to like, DRINK MORE or something, because they're totally ruining the whole SPECTACLE!

― guyana, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 05:31 (twenty-three years ago)

*awe*

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 26 September 2002 03:12 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, but did you ever crap your pants?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 September 2002 03:16 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...

generally, did soixante-huitards wear turtle-neck jumpers?

settle a bet

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

ten years pass...

The Blazing Saddles story about how Gig Young was supposed to the Waco Kid instead of Gene Wilder made me think of this thread. Young Frankenstein never gets made!

― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Monday, 23 January 2017 01:47 (nine years ago)

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