'...and DON'T *bleep* IT UP!' -- the RuPaul's Drag Race thread

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About time for this, I figure! Fifth season premiered yesterday.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:10 (seven years ago) link

condragulations

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 20:44 (seven years ago) link

Quite right!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:08 (seven years ago) link

this show is kind of fascinating in a "gender is all performance!" way - everyone congratulating each other (incl the judges) on how well they achieve some kind of archetypal female-ness

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:10 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Okay come on, I KNOW I'm not the only person on here watching.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:38 (seven years ago) link

I promise to start now.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:41 (seven years ago) link

Marilyn Monroe should've been in the bottom. She didn't do anything.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:48 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that was an epic flop. I like Ivy well enough but that made me go "Whuh?"

Jinkx, Alaska and Roxy were the best overall, but Jinkx just owned it period.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:51 (seven years ago) link

I like Ivy too and I think she was lucky she didn't have to lipsynch against Lineysha. I didn't expect her to do so well (but her Celia Cruz was unforgiveable).

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 17:24 (seven years ago) link

Deep clusterfuck, that. Also what WAS Detox thinking.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 18:02 (seven years ago) link

um hi I just started watching season 5 online having never watched and omg I'm hooked

I'll be caught up in no time :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Don't forget to watch Untucked, an essential part of this show!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:30 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I just figured that out...gotta love these bitchy girls. MORE drag homework? *twists arm*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:37 (seven years ago) link

Very good. Join us, join us...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:40 (seven years ago) link

Shanté, you stay!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:43 (seven years ago) link

Season 2 still the best so far, I think.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:43 (seven years ago) link

I just binge-rewatched season 3 over the weekend on Netflix and I might have to vote for that one. Then again I just like Raja a hell of a lot, so.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:44 (seven years ago) link

Yes for Raja and Manila. But the rest, not so interesting. Yara-Sophia maybe...

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:47 (seven years ago) link

It actually came down to the right final four I thought, Alexis was a character in her own right. But yeah Yara (Xara?) was next level.

I still haven't seen season four! For some stupid reason it's not on Netflix -- it was for about two seconds and then went away again without explanation. (Already know who won, obv., but I'd like to see it happen.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:49 (seven years ago) link

Wait what!! Can't you watch it on logo online or something? We can't in Canada but I thought you could in the US.
Season 4 was pretty good, although they tried to create too much unnecessary drama. But I'll let you see by yourself.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:58 (seven years ago) link

You can see the Untucked episodes from season 4 on the site but not the main shows. Since you can buy all the shows from iTunes maybe they want to go that route? Who knows!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:07 (seven years ago) link

Makes sense. If RuPaul had a dollar everytime she mentions iTunes...

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:13 (seven years ago) link

Hey, house payments are probably up there. (And I don't begrudge Ru ANY success and trappings.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:18 (seven years ago) link

I don't either. At least she's very upfront and funny about it.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:25 (seven years ago) link

Fun fact we learned during the All Stars season: Jujubee's real name is actually Airplane!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:28 (seven years ago) link

Hahaha yeah I remember thinking "Wait, what?"

I also love that Manila's real name is the none-more-Minnesota Karl Westerberg.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:35 (seven years ago) link

Lol wow

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:58 (seven years ago) link

Almost caught up on S5 now yay!

Every single time Alyssa glams up for the runway all I think is JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS

I don't know why but I think I like Detox. Jinkx is great but I dunno if the unglam thing is going to hold out for her or not. I love her for it, but it could wear thin.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 22:53 (seven years ago) link

I will say this, have started following her on FB -- win or lose she seems to be having a blast and is booked for other live appearances and things and more this year already, so I like to think of her as winning already!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:13 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, it's a little surprising to see such a mostly white group at this point. Not that I think the show is biased, appears to be more luck of the draw season by season in terms of who survives.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:15 (seven years ago) link

that little edie impersonation was fuckin awesome in the last ep. too bad her fashion totally sucks.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 28 February 2013 00:57 (seven years ago) link

I found s2 streaming on Amazon Prime, so yaaaay

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:28 (seven years ago) link

I do have to quibble with some of the assertions there -- while Sharon's success in 4 is great, in 3 Raja was more than a little disruptive herself -- as was Manila really; if anything Alexis was the one let go at the end precisely for being full pageant.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 03:27 (seven years ago) link

I haven't watched all the seasons, but I don't get the impression that they are only seeking pageant or necessarily favoring that. And while I noticed the lack of "camp history" in the S5 girls, isn't there an argument that maybe a lot of queens are trying to let go of that, like that cliche of teens not wanting to know about older music? I mean, I'm bummed that they don't know who Little Edie is but maybe when they see Jinkxs win they go find out. And it doesn't mean they're any more terrible for what they don't know of their history. If anything, it's kind of fabulous that they all came to that same place *without* it.
I dunno. That article seemed a little too buttclenched.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 05:51 (seven years ago) link

Related but I think better expressed post, linked off the official site

http://www.newnownext.com/drag-race-jinkx-monsoon-snatch-game-little-edie/02/2013/

Oh and in checking Twitter Alyssa DID apologize to Ms. Perry.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:15 (seven years ago) link

Also this exchange is interesting (notice it's everyone else BUT Jinkx and Michelle who get riled up -- and as Michelle notes, in noting the obvious, there's always editing).

https://twitter.com/JinkxMonsoon/status/306550634079977473

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:20 (seven years ago) link

This is better than what they showed on the show:

http://www.newnownext.com/jinkx-monsoon-little-edie-rupauls-drag-race/02/2013/

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:59 (seven years ago) link

My Top 5 Snatch Game contestants from all seasons:

1. Sharon Needles as Michelle Visage
2. Pandora Boxx as Carole Channing
3. Tatianna as Britney Spears
4. Jinkx Monsoon as Little Edie
5. Alexis Matteo as Alicia Keys

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 15:58 (seven years ago) link

Only three eps in (S5; no previous exposure to the show). Anyone care to rank the hottest queens out of drag? So far from S5 I'm into Lineysha and, oddly, Ivy.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:03 (seven years ago) link

xpost I just watched the S2 Snatch Game, Pandora's Carol Channing was hysterical, so good.

Lineysha's gorgeous. Ivy's not a crazy answer either, that bone structure really is something else. I was thinking about her terrible Marilyn and found myself wondering why the hell she didn't do Joan Rivers. Eh. Hindsight

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:14 (seven years ago) link

Yes she would've been a great Joan Rivers!

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I know this is probably the exact rongest angle to take on the show, but I'm finding it very interesting navigating my impressions/levels of attraction to certain contestants when they're in drag vs. when they're not in drag.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (seven years ago) link

Alyssa's *almost* attractive but it's like her lips are too big for her and she keeps tripping over them when she talks. Beautiful eyes though.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:20 (seven years ago) link

Coco's blue contacts freak me out. I keep expecting them to shoot lasers

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:21 (seven years ago) link

Haha Alyssa looks like Will Arnett in AND out of drag.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:24 (seven years ago) link

Hottest out of drag:

S1: Jade
S2: Tyra, Raven
S3: Raja, Carmen, Mariah
S4: PhiPhi, Lashauwn
S5: Lineysha

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:26 (seven years ago) link

xp otm

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:27 (seven years ago) link

Well, actually, in drag he often reminds me of Hugo Weaving.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:27 (seven years ago) link

xpost elmo otm! Defnitely Will Arnett out of drag. In drag as mentioned upthread I just get constant Joan Collins, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:28 (seven years ago) link

Im not saying the Vixen was wrong, but the Widow just always seemed lost, in every challenge. Like she never got over her first-week nerves or something.

trishyb, Saturday, 25 April 2020 10:20 (one month ago) link

Do the Drag Race producers not know about Jeff Goldblum's reputation, or do they not care, I wonder?

trishyb, Saturday, 25 April 2020 10:31 (one month ago) link

Crossed my mind more than once. Did make the sauciness feel more like sleaziness.

As for Secret Celebrity etc. etc., fine, an amusing fillip, but sure seemed like something that would have worked better as a short standalone thing later in the year just to stretch out the brand a bit while nothing is being filmed at all. Also having to stay awake until 11:30 even on a Friday did my head in.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 April 2020 15:11 (one month ago) link

Having only seen Nico in (hot) photos up to now, finally seeing him in (perpetual) motion was ... yeah, the crush is tempered somewhat.

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Saturday, 25 April 2020 15:38 (one month ago) link

And, yes, Widow was flailing to be sure. But for a judge to actually explicitly call out the quality The Vixen was fighting so hard against made my ears perk up.

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Saturday, 25 April 2020 15:42 (one month ago) link

xpost yeahhhh I thought that was a little...I don't know if gauche is the word, but chancy, or at least, oddly singled out.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 April 2020 15:49 (one month ago) link

“Look over there!”

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Saturday, 25 April 2020 16:10 (one month ago) link

Jackie Cox being told her joke was too repetitive while Jaida got a pass for doing the exact same thing twice really annoyed me

boxedjoy, Saturday, 25 April 2020 20:22 (one month ago) link

Also i have never seen Jeff Goldblum in anything so I don't really *get* what the deal is there but the whole episode being deferential to his appearance was a real buzzkill

boxedjoy, Saturday, 25 April 2020 20:37 (one month ago) link

I get the sense that if Jackie had had more than one schtick the judges would've complained that she was all over the place and needed to focus her jokes more.

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Saturday, 25 April 2020 20:57 (one month ago) link

Jackie Cox being told her joke was too repetitive while Jaida got a pass for doing the exact same thing twice really annoyed me

― boxedjoy, samedi 25 avril 2020 20:22 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Same. I thought she did pretty good. I was surprised Heidi was safe. She was barely shown in the debate at all, which made me think she didn't do so well.

LeRooLeRoo, Sunday, 26 April 2020 14:31 (four weeks ago) link

Maybe she had a lot of interaction with Sherrie that had to be chopped.

trishyb, Monday, 27 April 2020 17:32 (four weeks ago) link

Last night's episode was kinda sweet, as in earnest, in the best way. And of course it had to end that way. Daisy was a fun judge.

WAAAAY better Super Celebrity episode too, thank goodness. And the second We're Here was engaging as well.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 May 2020 20:01 (three weeks ago) link

Such a great episode & the untucked was v lovely too

All the feels!!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 May 2020 20:36 (three weeks ago) link

For a season that started indifferently for me, I would have no problem with anyone* winning. The queens still around all have something that stands out for them that could take them all the way.

LOVED the superfans, and even before that lipsync I was thinking that an episode involving them should not end in an elimination. Glad to see both Heidi and Jackie make it another week, I couldn't imagine this season without either of them.

Obviously Jaida dotted her i's and crossed her t's and earned the win (and she has been on fire), but Opal charmed the hell out of me. If you blink when she's on stage, you could easily forget which one was the drag queen and which one was the superfan. JTP too performed the hell out of her routine too.

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Saturday, 2 May 2020 22:10 (three weeks ago) link

PS I hope that Afrodite is the name that Heidi finally settles on, though I bet there's still some juice left in this running gag.

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Saturday, 2 May 2020 22:12 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah otm I love all these queens

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 May 2020 22:35 (three weeks ago) link

Ep 2 of Celebrity Drag Race was def better than ep 1. Loved all three of these women, they did so great. Vanessa announcing her drag name is Vanquisha slaaaaaaayed me i could not breathe
so great

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 May 2020 22:37 (three weeks ago) link

Agreed that the remaining queens (Sherry I guess being Sherry) are all pretty great. Hell, why have a season finale at this point, it would have to be some weird remote thing anyway. In any event I am glad this is stretching out for, presumably, at least two more weeks of episodes, if not three.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 May 2020 00:52 (three weeks ago) link

Good gravy, they're really going the Project Runway route with an All-Stars EVERY YEAR.

https://youtu.be/H2dXou6v8gA

git stash hunks (Leee), Friday, 8 May 2020 17:04 (two weeks ago) link

You'd think networks might want to start keeping a few aces in their sleeves for the years to come.

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Friday, 8 May 2020 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

lol at the YT comment saying, more or less

Derek: On my season I fell into the Britney box.
Also Derek: *walks into workroom in extremely famous Britney look*

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Friday, 8 May 2020 17:27 (two weeks ago) link

xpost I mean as I muttered re Super Celebrity, you pile it all on now when nobody's sure when 'Hollywood' as such starts working again and that'll leave you high and dry sooner rather than later.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 May 2020 17:31 (two weeks ago) link

And I am STILL unclear exactly how the finale for this season is supposed to happen.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 May 2020 17:31 (two weeks ago) link

Well, I think Prince would have enjoyed that lipsync. I really liked this episode. The choice of winner was 100% correct.

trishyb, Saturday, 9 May 2020 09:57 (two weeks ago) link

Yes to all of the above !

LeRooLeRoo, Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:51 (two weeks ago) link

And I am STILL unclear exactly how the finale for this season is supposed to happen.

― Ned Raggett, vendredi 8 mai 2020 17:31 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I've heard they filmed the reunion on Zoom. Not sure if that means the finale too.

LeRooLeRoo, Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:53 (two weeks ago) link

Whoopi <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:57 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah that was a pretty solid episode. I am still sad to see Heidi go, she's just so frickin' FUNNY. Ah well.

Super Celebrity this time not as good as ep 2 but still good. 3rd We're Here a very interesting one.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 May 2020 20:44 (two weeks ago) link

Sherry was doing some subliminal messaging between being a cat and a fish

boxedjoy, Saturday, 9 May 2020 20:46 (two weeks ago) link

I loved all the things Ru said to Heidi during gbe elimination. That queen is really somethin! I loved Crystal’s character, so fuckin funny & weird & awesome.

I quite enjoyed this Celebrity Drag episode too

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 May 2020 21:06 (two weeks ago) link

The celebrities all killed the roast and the lipsynch !

I will miss Heidi too. She should be so proud. She's got to be a lock for Miss Congeniality.

LeRooLeRoo, Saturday, 9 May 2020 23:10 (two weeks ago) link

And AllStars

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 May 2020 02:20 (two weeks ago) link

OK that Ru Roast really was all killer no filler.

Unlike the faces on the judges' panel.

git stash hunks (Leee), Sunday, 10 May 2020 22:15 (two weeks ago) link

lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 May 2020 23:13 (two weeks ago) link

Good mentor lineup for the final episode next week too; if that sticks the landing then I can see why they put the first episode where they did because lord that sucked.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 May 2020 23:16 (two weeks ago) link

Anyway, Shangela gets a Texas Monthly profile, as is deserved:

https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/shangela-drag-queen-hbo-show/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 May 2020 20:47 (two weeks ago) link

Nice little "lucky bitches" shout-out to the classic French & Saunders sketch.

trishyb, Saturday, 16 May 2020 10:03 (one week ago) link

That was a little TOO much Rusical but.

Am mildly surprised they didn’t just have Jackie be part of the actual top four for the next couple of episodes but here we are.

Final Secret Celebrity was fun! But I’m glad I don’t have to stay up to 11:30 anymore.

And separately We’re Here continues carving out its own interesting space. Two episodes to go.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:16 (one week ago) link

The very start of the episode, where Jaida came stalking back into the workroom in her amazing dress, and just want to say again I don't think she got enough props for how she managed to effortlessly honour Whoopi and Prince together in one look.

trishyb, Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:52 (one week ago) link

Her runway look this episode was INCREDIBLE. Carson’s Nolan Miller comment was on the money. Plus I think in addition to having an amazing drag career after this, she should be tapped to create gowns for Ru, she’s at that level of impeccableness imo.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 May 2020 19:15 (one week ago) link

Surely she's the front runner to win. Nothing against the other two.

Also, LOL at the very start of the episode where the warm Heidi thoughts are flowing and...the lights go out.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:10 (one week ago) link

"Condragulations to my final four! Who do you want to be America's next drag superstar? Are you Team Crystal? Team Gigi? Or Team Jaida?"

So buttons. (Leee), Saturday, 16 May 2020 22:11 (one week ago) link

I realized watching this Untucked that I just dont like Gigi Goode. Love her looks, sure - but she just seems so insincere all the time

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 May 2020 22:52 (one week ago) link

Jamal Sims was a TERRIBLE coach in that episode. Absolutely nothing to offer but vague platitudes about energy. Also my eyes hurt at Carson's outfit.

Crystal is really endearing but just isn't good enough to beat Jaida at this. Gigi would be a fine winner, dully competent I guess, if they're going to give the prize to another white slim young fashion queen then they might as well forego any pretence of casting any diversity for the next season.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 17 May 2020 09:54 (one week ago) link

I was genuinely surprised they didn't read Crystal over her boots on the runway. They were not good.

trishyb, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:13 (one week ago) link

They usually seem incapable of doing anything other than fawn for the last challenge episode.

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Sunday, 17 May 2020 23:19 (one week ago) link

Reunion was fun. But what I wouldn't give for the obviously-never-going-to-be-broadcast chat they all must have had about Sherry. (A true level of nonpersoning at this point.).

Did love that Lisa Renna -- and Harry -- have a good sense of humor.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:34 (two days ago) link

Meantime so we're getting the next All Stars, Canadian Drag Race in July, new season of Werq the World and Race Chaser discussed a rumor that Drag Race UK already filmed season 2 so I guess we'll have plenty of CONTENT to tide us over?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:35 (two days ago) link


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