'...and DON'T *bleep* IT UP!' -- the RuPaul's Drag Race thread

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About time for this, I figure! Fifth season premiered yesterday.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

condragulations

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 20:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Quite right!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:08 (five years ago) Permalink

this show is kind of fascinating in a "gender is all performance!" way - everyone congratulating each other (incl the judges) on how well they achieve some kind of archetypal female-ness

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:10 (five years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Okay come on, I KNOW I'm not the only person on here watching.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I promise to start now.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Marilyn Monroe should've been in the bottom. She didn't do anything.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah that was an epic flop. I like Ivy well enough but that made me go "Whuh?"

Jinkx, Alaska and Roxy were the best overall, but Jinkx just owned it period.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I like Ivy too and I think she was lucky she didn't have to lipsynch against Lineysha. I didn't expect her to do so well (but her Celia Cruz was unforgiveable).

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Deep clusterfuck, that. Also what WAS Detox thinking.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 18:02 (five years ago) Permalink

um hi I just started watching season 5 online having never watched and omg I'm hooked

I'll be caught up in no time :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Don't forget to watch Untucked, an essential part of this show!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah I just figured that out...gotta love these bitchy girls. MORE drag homework? *twists arm*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Very good. Join us, join us...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Shanté, you stay!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Season 2 still the best so far, I think.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I just binge-rewatched season 3 over the weekend on Netflix and I might have to vote for that one. Then again I just like Raja a hell of a lot, so.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes for Raja and Manila. But the rest, not so interesting. Yara-Sophia maybe...

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:47 (five years ago) Permalink

It actually came down to the right final four I thought, Alexis was a character in her own right. But yeah Yara (Xara?) was next level.

I still haven't seen season four! For some stupid reason it's not on Netflix -- it was for about two seconds and then went away again without explanation. (Already know who won, obv., but I'd like to see it happen.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Wait what!! Can't you watch it on logo online or something? We can't in Canada but I thought you could in the US.
Season 4 was pretty good, although they tried to create too much unnecessary drama. But I'll let you see by yourself.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:58 (five years ago) Permalink

You can see the Untucked episodes from season 4 on the site but not the main shows. Since you can buy all the shows from iTunes maybe they want to go that route? Who knows!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Makes sense. If RuPaul had a dollar everytime she mentions iTunes...

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Hey, house payments are probably up there. (And I don't begrudge Ru ANY success and trappings.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't either. At least she's very upfront and funny about it.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Fun fact we learned during the All Stars season: Jujubee's real name is actually Airplane!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Hahaha yeah I remember thinking "Wait, what?"

I also love that Manila's real name is the none-more-Minnesota Karl Westerberg.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Lol wow

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Almost caught up on S5 now yay!

Every single time Alyssa glams up for the runway all I think is JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS

I don't know why but I think I like Detox. Jinkx is great but I dunno if the unglam thing is going to hold out for her or not. I love her for it, but it could wear thin.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 22:53 (five years ago) Permalink

I will say this, have started following her on FB -- win or lose she seems to be having a blast and is booked for other live appearances and things and more this year already, so I like to think of her as winning already!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, it's a little surprising to see such a mostly white group at this point. Not that I think the show is biased, appears to be more luck of the draw season by season in terms of who survives.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:15 (five years ago) Permalink

that little edie impersonation was fuckin awesome in the last ep. too bad her fashion totally sucks.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 28 February 2013 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I found s2 streaming on Amazon Prime, so yaaaay

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I do have to quibble with some of the assertions there -- while Sharon's success in 4 is great, in 3 Raja was more than a little disruptive herself -- as was Manila really; if anything Alexis was the one let go at the end precisely for being full pageant.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 03:27 (five years ago) Permalink

I haven't watched all the seasons, but I don't get the impression that they are only seeking pageant or necessarily favoring that. And while I noticed the lack of "camp history" in the S5 girls, isn't there an argument that maybe a lot of queens are trying to let go of that, like that cliche of teens not wanting to know about older music? I mean, I'm bummed that they don't know who Little Edie is but maybe when they see Jinkxs win they go find out. And it doesn't mean they're any more terrible for what they don't know of their history. If anything, it's kind of fabulous that they all came to that same place *without* it.
I dunno. That article seemed a little too buttclenched.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 05:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Related but I think better expressed post, linked off the official site

http://www.newnownext.com/drag-race-jinkx-monsoon-snatch-game-little-edie/02/2013/

Oh and in checking Twitter Alyssa DID apologize to Ms. Perry.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Also this exchange is interesting (notice it's everyone else BUT Jinkx and Michelle who get riled up -- and as Michelle notes, in noting the obvious, there's always editing).

https://twitter.com/JinkxMonsoon/status/306550634079977473

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:20 (five years ago) Permalink

This is better than what they showed on the show:

http://www.newnownext.com/jinkx-monsoon-little-edie-rupauls-drag-race/02/2013/

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:59 (five years ago) Permalink

My Top 5 Snatch Game contestants from all seasons:

1. Sharon Needles as Michelle Visage
2. Pandora Boxx as Carole Channing
3. Tatianna as Britney Spears
4. Jinkx Monsoon as Little Edie
5. Alexis Matteo as Alicia Keys

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Only three eps in (S5; no previous exposure to the show). Anyone care to rank the hottest queens out of drag? So far from S5 I'm into Lineysha and, oddly, Ivy.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:03 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost I just watched the S2 Snatch Game, Pandora's Carol Channing was hysterical, so good.

Lineysha's gorgeous. Ivy's not a crazy answer either, that bone structure really is something else. I was thinking about her terrible Marilyn and found myself wondering why the hell she didn't do Joan Rivers. Eh. Hindsight

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes she would've been a great Joan Rivers!

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I know this is probably the exact rongest angle to take on the show, but I'm finding it very interesting navigating my impressions/levels of attraction to certain contestants when they're in drag vs. when they're not in drag.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Alyssa's *almost* attractive but it's like her lips are too big for her and she keeps tripping over them when she talks. Beautiful eyes though.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Coco's blue contacts freak me out. I keep expecting them to shoot lasers

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Haha Alyssa looks like Will Arnett in AND out of drag.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Hottest out of drag:

S1: Jade
S2: Tyra, Raven
S3: Raja, Carmen, Mariah
S4: PhiPhi, Lashauwn
S5: Lineysha

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:26 (five years ago) Permalink

xp otm

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Well, actually, in drag he often reminds me of Hugo Weaving.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost elmo otm! Defnitely Will Arnett out of drag. In drag as mentioned upthread I just get constant Joan Collins, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:28 (five years ago) Permalink

That said, Kameron’s runway looks have been consistently very good to great, so it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if she did make it to the finish line.

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2018 12:09 (one week ago) Permalink

I loved Ru's suit in this episode, and how he has bounced back from whatever illness he had at the start of the season. The slap challenge was one of my favourite mini challenges.

trishyb, Friday, 11 May 2018 13:07 (one week ago) Permalink

This could be the red herring win, like the one Ivy Winters won right before getting kicked off.


The preview half hinted at that but they pull bait and switches like that all the time.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 May 2018 13:29 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, if the follow up is, like the perfume challenge in S5, where Kameron ends up wiping out, then I expect it could also be where the currently winless Miz Cracker, much like Alaska, finally gets some wind in her sails.

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2018 13:31 (one week ago) Permalink

Asia's lipsync was so joyful and, dare I say, delightful.

Twyla Thwoorp (Leee), Friday, 11 May 2018 23:09 (one week ago) Permalink

Great choice of song too -- amazed it had never turned up until now!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 May 2018 23:10 (one week ago) Permalink

That heart-to-heart btw Asia & Vixen was wise & kind & so beautiful. Asia literally turned my face into a heart. She has such a kindness in her.

I loved this mini challenge, I loved this challenge, the lipsync, the judges. Good stuff all round.

Monet could be Bob the Drag Queen level great if she just polished her look. It’s like she hurries or something, every week it’s like “OH! ...oh.” The visible tape this week majorly bummed me ouuuut bcz she was SO good as Cher. My fave by far.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 May 2018 04:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Sad that Vixen left bc I love her fire & she’s so rad but also my god that child is kinda exhausting too

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:00 (one week ago) Permalink

Bob sometimes had polish issues too iirc

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 May 2018 15:38 (one week ago) Permalink

How has Kameron been so invisible??? Like do the editors seriously have no material to work with?

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 12 May 2018 15:42 (one week ago) Permalink

In one of her recap videos, Cracker said that Kameron made a conscious decision to not give the editors anything they might use to distort her.

Twyla Thwoorp (Leee), Saturday, 12 May 2018 15:55 (one week ago) Permalink

Willam said that’s exactly what Roxxxy did during AS2. Don’t give them the drama, they’ll keep you there longer, waiting for it

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Can't say Vixen isn't making her moment work for her:

So @TheVixensworld performed at Battle on the Runway tonight and did a performance mashed up with CHUN LI like a GAWDESS pic.twitter.com/M8ne9DuNNV

— Ira Madison III (@ira) May 12, 2018

Really, The Vixen fucking slayedt and WE STAN pic.twitter.com/KXOHXTC9C7

— Ira Madison III (@ira) May 12, 2018

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:52 (one week ago) Permalink

And yeah re Kameron, it also helps that there were such big personalities playing off each other that she could more easily hide in plain sight. That Untucked discussion this week is telling in turn.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:53 (one week ago) Permalink

i don't usually watch michelle's segment after the show (or that plays after the show when you watch drag race online) but the vixen came off much better in that, and looked super cute w/ some stubble to boot. this is besides the point but the vixen really should model, aside from doing drag.

in any event, i find the ongoing discussion on the show about the concept of the angry black woman to be very interesting... i wonder if there's ever been another moment in reality tv history where there was a real time on camera meta conversation about how the show might portray one its contestants vis a vis a racial stereotype, and then that discussion being aired on TV and made the dominant storyline of the season? i find it hard to call heads or tails on the vixen either way bcuz of the inherent manipulation of everything we see, but i put a lot of stock in asia's analysis of the whole situation in this most recent episode.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2018 17:33 (one week ago) Permalink

otm

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 May 2018 17:41 (one week ago) Permalink

that was a good post, J0rdan

very sad at the dastardly edit/ru-ception Miz Cracker is getting this season; i guess it is what happens when you follow directly after a Trixie Mattel win

final 3 looking to me like:
eureka (ugh)
aquaria (sigh) [or conceivably kameron (?!)]
asia (go go go go)

sean gramophone, Monday, 14 May 2018 02:09 (one week ago) Permalink

Final four, surely, based on last year.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 May 2018 02:10 (one week ago) Permalink

oops i skipped s9

that changes things; hmmm

sean gramophone, Monday, 14 May 2018 02:13 (one week ago) Permalink

I kinda hope Aquaria doesn't make it to the final 3; I want Cracker to get there instead.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 May 2018 03:19 (one week ago) Permalink

cracker is downright wonderful

but imo it's clear at this stage that the producers/ru herself are not big fans, or at least aren't excited about another white comedy queen for s10.

sean gramophone, Monday, 14 May 2018 11:29 (one week ago) Permalink

Isn't that what Eureka is, too?

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Monday, 14 May 2018 13:15 (one week ago) Permalink

"we need a big girl to win"

sean gramophone, Monday, 14 May 2018 13:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Miss ... Vanjie!

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Monday, 14 May 2018 13:56 (one week ago) Permalink

You know part of me wants the final to have the top four do their thing and then Ru awards it to Miss Vanjie for the hell of it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 May 2018 13:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Vanjie and that sponge have already gotten more quality screen time than anyone else.

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Monday, 14 May 2018 14:00 (one week ago) Permalink

Anyway, at this point, I'd say that yeah, Cracker and Monet seem the least likely to make the final four.

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Monday, 14 May 2018 14:03 (one week ago) Permalink

idk cracker hasn't even lip synced yet, and comedy queens to me always have a leg up when it comes to making the final 4 even tho they can be passed up to win

J0rdan S., Monday, 14 May 2018 15:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Okay I sensed that coming. But it WAS a good lip sync.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2018 04:32 (four days ago) Permalink

I mean, it was very good, but so was the previous week's. The only difference last week was that there was a "villain" to dispatch.

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Friday, 18 May 2018 12:38 (four days ago) Permalink

Agreed. Also I do wonder what it would have been like if someone had been sent home this week -- is one of next week's makeover guests on standby?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2018 12:55 (four days ago) Permalink

God, I found that challenge painful, though. Unfunny, overlong, POOR.

trishyb, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:47 (four days ago) Permalink

Next week's is MUCH more interesting already.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:56 (four days ago) Permalink

It's a fine line between camp and crap, but this season's written challenges seem far more on the latter side than usual.

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 May 2018 02:04 (three days ago) Permalink

Agreed. Bearing in mind the calibre of the queens this season, I haven’t found it as entertaining as previous ones.

Madchen, Saturday, 19 May 2018 06:19 (three days ago) Permalink

I'm guessing that Cracker approaches her comedy analytically, so when she didn't win any of the comedy challenges, she started getting in her head and is kind of in a vicious cycle of self-doubt. And that's kind of emblematic of this bizarro season, where the look queens are outperforming the comedy queens in the comedy challenges. (Acquarium can be intentionally funny, who'da thunk?)

Loving Asia, though, a den mother who can also turn it out!

Twyla Thwoorp (Leee), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:50 (three days ago) Permalink

Asia was awesome this week. I loved her old age look so much 😂

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 May 2018 23:17 (three days ago) Permalink

Some great official postings from DragCon going up. Season 3 reunion's a treat.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 May 2018 03:13 (two days ago) Permalink

realized i should stop watching raja and raven's photo fashion ruview when watching it became like the two-minutes hate from 1984.

clouds, Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:01 (two days ago) Permalink

the fact that raven wants to read someone else's looks while looking like victoria beckham crossed with lady elaine from mister roger's neighborhood is just... i can't

clouds, Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:03 (two days ago) Permalink

yeah I have been wrestling with that too

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 May 2018 15:14 (two days ago) Permalink

Aja and Manila are both great standins -- the DragCon live RuView this year was Raja and Aja and it was funny as hell.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 May 2018 15:37 (two days ago) Permalink

agreed with that. would actually love just an aja fashion review.

clouds, Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:58 (two days ago) Permalink

Raja, even when she’s dismissive, still has an energy that I dig.

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Sunday, 20 May 2018 17:34 (two days ago) Permalink

Raven is very rigid & set in her ways

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 May 2018 19:46 (two days ago) Permalink

Yeah. You don't like shoes with a strap, Raven. We get it!

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:55 (two days ago) Permalink

Would Raven be the Clarence Thomas of Photo Fashion Ruview?

Regreta Garbo (Leee), Monday, 21 May 2018 00:47 (yesterday) Permalink

O_o

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 May 2018 01:25 (yesterday) Permalink

Kameron's lipsynch was incredible! I didn't know she had it in her. She told Ru the stage is where she lets go and I'm glad we got to see it.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 21 May 2018 15:31 (yesterday) Permalink

i think kameron got lucky that she lip synced with a prosthetic face. it brought a comedy to the lip sync that i don't think she would have been able to summon otherwise

J0rdan S., Monday, 21 May 2018 16:11 (yesterday) Permalink


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