Yeah it most always ends up there unless family members actually join them for challenges. Which is always cool too.
Seems like there's a big 'justice for Denali' attitude re complaints about Kandy elsewhere. Which, yes and no?
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 April 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link
cool, i thought maybe we got shortened episodes in canada (and the provider that has the rights to drag race doesn’t have untucked - but we now have untucked for the previous season on netflix, which is annoying)
re: denali - she kinda reminds me of rose, super professional but “bland chicken”. she certainly had better runways (and arguably lipsyncs) than kandy though..
i thought the meme making rounds is very otm:symone - charismagottmik - uniquenesskandy - nerverose - talent
i doubt rose will win at this point - you could tell the judges struggled to say something personal to her, and it’s rose’s mistake imo (who otherwise seems to be smart at playing the game) - she didn’t give the judges enough story.
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 10 April 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link
Well that raises an interesting question: if your life has been comparatively more of a glide path then do you have more 'story'? Not saying Rose has had it easier than the rest, but still.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 April 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
ehhhI mean Kandy was definitely carried through bc she was good tv. in a way that Denali wasn’t. and kandy for sure got by with some worse performances/looks than what got denali sent homebut i also enjoyed watching kandy, knowing all of that. maybe even over the idea of seeing more of denali. idk. i just think it’s a bit too much to elevate kandy to the point where she’s final four w no hope of winning. like, ru pushed tyra through for -reasons~ but she had that incredible look. you push kandy all the way to the top bc she’s crazy & full of personality & you create a monster bc she now believes it was solely her talent that got her there & no one can tell her anything. eh.that’s entertainment lmao
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 April 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
^ otm
yeah not saying rose had it easier but her not having a “season arc” or not being presented as somebody who had to overcome something made it more difficult to root for her (or as kamorah would put it, to ROOT for HER). compare that with symone’s breakdown, for instance. or kandy’s story, for that matter. most praise for rose was “she’s... she’s a professional” which yes, she is. but saying that music theater didn’t give you enough chance to express yourself isn’t gonna be enough to make ru tear up.
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 10 April 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
Ramsey Clark, RIP https://t.co/rlYFi1cNXb— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) April 11, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 April 2021 00:54 (three years ago) link
Ha IGNORE that, meant to be this one:
RuPaul sucking the childhood trauma from everyone pic.twitter.com/95K7DOtKgr— ✨ (@heyjaeee) April 10, 2021
But maybe Ramsey loved Drag Race, who knows.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 April 2021 00:55 (three years ago) link
Kandy Muse on her $100,000 boat #DragRace pic.twitter.com/Xyo1rin12j— Joey Nolfi (@joeynolfi) April 10, 2021
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 11 April 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link
Gottmik's desperation to turn "gorg" into a meme is so exhausting.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 11 April 2021 07:52 (three years ago) link
I think I finally put my finger on what keeps me at arms length from Gottmik and it took until this ep to realize it ... even more so than Violet, Gottmik is the culmination of people coming up thru drag under the influence of this game show. The entire episode, her storyline was built around her desire to literally live within the show for the rest of her life. That flavor of desperation is not my cuppa. I’d say she and Rose are tied for third for me based on what the show’s delivering to my eyeballs.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link
It's definitely the blessing/curse of any such vectoring up that the show has provided, thanks to its longevity and success. But this is also probably why we're seeing more drag shows in various forms, contest-based or not, just to acknowledge alternate approaches -- some of which are from veterans carving out non-WoW spaces, others of which are just their own thing.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3dmav/what-does-it-cost-to-go-on-rupauls-drag-race
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link
Take whatever they say and double it for Gottmik.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link
otm
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link
long read but well worth it, so many little eye opening details.i assumed that some designers work in exchange for exposure but doesn't sound like it's the case.
certainly puts a different light on "i can't believe she'd show up in chicken feathers" comments
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 17 April 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link
still. having a creative eye & taste goes a long way when you are skint
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 April 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link
definitely, and they touch on that - but that’s the thing, comments like “chicken feathers” explicitly make it “who cares you made it, not expensive enough”
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 17 April 2021 02:46 (three years ago) link
Which is REALLY interesting in that Joey Jay had a comment on that in tonight’s special in response to Denali’s slam on that.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:25 (three years ago) link
chicken feathers fucking suck though! it’s not just that they are financially cheap, they are shitty & fall off! its what you buy when you want fosse & you end up as hr pufnstuff
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link
Aw, I love Joey.
― trishyb, Saturday, 17 April 2021 09:18 (three years ago) link
I'm not a big fan of Utica's, but she could give classes in how to do a TV interview over Zoom. She looked gorgeous, she was properly miked up and didn't have to raise her voice, and she had a good background.
― trishyb, Saturday, 17 April 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link
Well that was not surprising — but having forgotten the wheel, I wasn’t expecting that top two.Also honest surprise at Miss Congeniality! But a very cool choice.And so All Stars will be on Paramount+ — well well.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 April 2021 04:42 (three years ago) link
even with the wheel, i wasn’t expecting that top two.pretty underwhelming overall, especially considering all the forced build up
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link
The Chi Chi DeVayne tribute was (for awfully sad reasons of course) the highlight for me. (On a funnier note, Rose getting in Ellie Diamond's name was up there.)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
yeah those two were the highlights. and the whole rose family!
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah they were amazing! The sister with that crazy glass!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link
Also I was terribly amused at the cheering crowd sound vs. the actual drive-in audience, which struck me as, how you say, not quite the same.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
I don't know, I thought it was all kind of sweet and low key. The interviews seemed genuinely warmer than they usually are, too. As soon as Ru pointed out that poor Rosé had buggered up her ankle (and was wearing some awful outfit, holy crap, that was a terrible outfit), it was clear that she wasn't going to win her lipsync.
I loved Symone's family saying "on RuPaul," as if it was Oprah.
― trishyb, Saturday, 24 April 2021 20:04 (three years ago) link
I was so glad LaLa got Miss Congeniality, she seemed so genuinely kind & friendly. i would have been pissed if they gave it to Olivia i felt bad for Rosé, i know she would have turned that lip sync out way more if not for her ankle. I would have loved her & Symone as top 2 but the end result was still wonderfuland Symone’s looks! fucking hell she killed it. that red look with the nails!?!?! jesus. and yeah the interviews were really warm & funny, i enjoyed the show overall even though it was weird & low key
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 April 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link
and yeah the ChiChi tribute was beautiful
the final final four reaction to the winner is v lovely & legit https://www.instagram.com/tv/CODmnZlB4KS/
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 April 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link
Did anyone else watch Down Under? After the Vice article, the gulf between the haves and the have-nots was really apparent on this show. Also, I can't believe it never occurred to me that drag queens all wear those huge-framed glasses because they have no eyebrows.
― trishyb, Sunday, 2 May 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link
gonna sit this one out, we just came out of two simultaneous seasons, one of which lasted for roughly a decade
I know RuPaul's strategy is to basically go nonstop and smother pop culture but she needs to give it and us a rest
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 2 May 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link
how.could they not use a kylie song for the lipsync
― scanner darkly, Sunday, 9 May 2021 04:03 (three years ago) link
You'd think that, yes.
Bit of a thrown-together feeling, Down Under. It's kinda weird realizing it's not a full restriction production as US/UK are but now almost feels too small in a way? But I have to wonder if that was literally down to availability given everything else filming there when almost nowhere else was able to. Plus, clearly no guest judges at all except being beamed in, etc. Though in a weird way having it always be just this core three kinda means they'll see every step of the way.
Did think it wasn't the BEST look that the first queen to leave was the (apparently only?) Indigenous Australian. But was amused that the second was the one I thought they might be biased towards given the separate series they already had on WOW+...
The other thing that stands out for me is reallllly subtle but, even more so than some of the other non-US series, there's a different, distinct editing and camera 'feel' to the whole thing -- different angles and choices and the like.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link
Only seen the first ep so far, but am hoping they use a different Australian and New Zealand act for lipsync every week, instead of Kylie eight times!
Did think it wasn't the BEST look that the first queen to leave was the (apparently only?) Indigenous Australian.
It really sucked that she was sent to the battle, but once she got there, so did her lipsync. Presumably there aren't enough eps to do a ~dramatic re-entry~ to the competition later, either.
Cringed out of my entire skin when Ru entered saying "GEE DYE GEE DYE!"
The combination of distanced staging, remote filming and even-cheaper-than-usual facilities do make it feel especially stilted. And when Rhys was announced as the third chair, I thought it was perfect casting, but cutting and splicing his lines around pre-written puns by Michelle and written-and-recorded-later comments from Ru is absolutely hobbling him.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 9 May 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link
ok have watched #2 and there is an even bigger obvious reason not to do Kylie that week
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 10 May 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link
I was waiting for your reaction
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 May 2021 04:33 (three years ago) link
I've come out of these first two episodes of DRDU feeling like my head's been pummelled, the fast pace* and lack of relief / weird stilted editing where it feels like everybody is in different places (maybe because they are) / extremely high in the mix music and sound effects is making it very tough going
*it even feels like it's all been sped up like 10%, but maybe that's just my weary brain struggling to keep up
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 10 May 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link
I think I'm looking forward to the Spanish one just because, as with Thailand/Canada/Holland, not having Ru/Michelle as the center allows for other approaches or dynamics.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 May 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link
I'm mildly terrified at this vision
A customer asked me if I watched Roald Dahl's Drag Race— Jordan Penny (@jordanpenny) May 18, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link
for the mini challenge you have to choose the method of the violent death of your parents
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link
it was ridiculous enough for karen to tell elektra "you don't need money to win", but michelle's "you need to elevate your drag" was like, how, girl? by selling one of her kidneys?
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 22 May 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
Since Drag Race started, the show has appeared to take on board criticisms of misogyny (you don't hear a lot of talk about tuna anymore), racism (I don't know how successful this is, I am not an expert), and trans inclusiveness. I wonder if this will be the year they listen to the money criticisms and finally just do what they should have been doing since the show became successful: give every participating queen a budget and do not let them spend beyond it. Also, more challenges where they have to make stuff from scratch and chat about their lives while they do it. Infinitely more entertaining than another unfunny musical number.
― trishyb, Saturday, 22 May 2021 09:49 (two years ago) link
Quite.
The cast preview for Spain was fun enough, let's see what happens; first episode this Sunday. Down Under chugging along and I'm not surprised Art's back. I am surprised it was that soon.
And now...
https://ew.com/tv/rupauls-drag-race-all-stars-6-cast-revealed-exclusive-interviews/
RuPaul's Drag Race All-Stars 6 cast members: A'Keria C. Davenport, Eureka, Ginger Minj, Jan, Jiggly Caliente, Kylie Sonique Love, Pandora Boxx, Ra'Jah O'Hara, Scarlet Envy, Serena Cha Cha, Silky Nutmeg Ganache, Trinity K. Bonet, and Yara Sofia
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link
is it just me or is this a weird cast
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link
It's a VERY weird cast.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link
.. and the reason they brought Pandora back is to immediately pair her up w Jiggly
but really, this is like RuPaul We Could Only Get These Queens Race
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link
With Jan back, let's see if they bring Rose back next year.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link