Charlie Brooker's BLACK MIRROR

[as a parent] fuck you brooker for putting that image in my head

I know EXACTLY what image

I'm watching "Arkangel". Parents, please have a full glass of wine before you spin this one up.

Seriously, this is devastating stuff.

I’m watching that one right now and alternating between cringe and outrage and hoping this doesn’t go the way I’m worried about but ohhh nooo

is USS Callister any good? I'm not interested in Star Trek or any of that stuff so I'd be inclined to avoid it.

yes, it’s about a simulated world, just happens to be trek themed

I think I'd rather watch an hourlong interview with Brooker than an episode of his show, but I'll give the Star Trek one a go.

"Crocodile" is bleak af

holy heck

I don't really need any more from tv shows

chekov’s pig

ah crud, forgot it was only six episodes and accidentally the whole thing

there were a couple uplifting bits in there and I liked the anthology horror format of the last one

Don’t think many people liked Metalhead, minimal as it is, but I did! Maxine Peake was great.

Arkangel hurt a bit to watch. It’s good, though. I had a lot of questions about the core technology that the episode didn’t go into, but that’s beside the point.

Hang the DJ is great, though not quite as good as San Junipero. Gets incredibly bleak at points which makes the ending even more satisfying.

Seen Arkangel and Crocodile so far. Enjoyed both just hoping the next one doesn't involve a chip in a head.

Any idea why Crocodile was filmed in Iceland (by the looks of it) but everyone had an English accent?

I'm guessing some sort of massive tax break.

I thought some of USS Callister might have been filmed there as well. That lake had a cold look about it.

USS Callister was great. Never expected anyone to pull off (or even attempt) a fun and enjoyable version of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream

I did enjoy seeing my hometown used in Arkangel.

And as a dad of a three year old girl, the rest was a serious bummer.

I really enjoyed Metalhead. Short form escape story of the type Blomkamp’s being trying for but with more of a human touch

only seen uss callister so far and (without spoiling anything) i don't understand why anyone would care about most of the principal characters

Ugh, this Black Museum episode is awful and boring. It better have a point.

uss mcallister giving me the cat person vibes

Black museum was rubbish "would you like your comatose wife to live inside your head?" "Yeah why not"

what if phones, but too much

We wondered if the AV Club reviewer might have had a point, and that episode was supposed to be a grotesque "wrong" version of a Black Mirror story, which then tipped over into just being bad. It's the only one that doesn't have a female protagonist, and the others are mostly set in cold places, whereas this episode makes a big deal out of telling you how hot it is (which I know is germane to the plot, but still...). Anyway, it was weirdly out of place and terrible.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/2846dda95be5efaa86f0a0826cec4cea/tumblr_p1te4jNIBK1vtwqhpo1_1280.jpg

Black Museum episode reminded me of Tales from the Crypt, complete with the ending where someone's trying to kill the cryptkeeper for being a purveyor of misery

Black Mirror S4 episode list :

1. Cor Blimey, What If Facebook Likes Were The Only Way To Earn a Quid
2. There Is An App That Can Download You, Well Scary Innit Bruv
3. Me New Misses Is a Android And I Aint Bovvered
4. The Cheeky Gov'na Got A Pic Of Me Bollocks Through Me Webcam

— Callum (@rasta_dad) December 29, 2017

I've only watched the first episode of this season so far. It made little sense within the "constraints" of the Black Mirror universe but Jesse Plemmons does one HELL of a good Shatner.

i fucking loved that episode. way more playful than they usually are (but still p dark at the same time).

I really like Black Mirror and I'm unafraid to say it

Also, jokes about the premise are fun

Metalhead was probably the best thing about this season, even if it doesn't feel like it belongs to the Black Mirror Universe (not just in theme, but more on this later). USS Callister was fun but then completely fell apart once they got to the wormhole and/or trying to work out what the last 10 minutes *means* destroys the logic of the rest of it. Hang The DJ had quite an engaging story but the tech bolt-on to provide DO YOU SEE was clunky as hell.

Didn't care for either Arkangel or Crocodile, they were both completely in service of the one DO YOU SEE idea and the circumstances portrayed were pretty ridiculous.

Black Museum was kind of hacky and predictable but, as noted above, adhered pretty strongly to portmanteau tropes (spooky owner linking the plot strands, which all subtly contribute to each other and culminate in pet toad hoisting). The real reason for it, however, is I think it's there to act as an anchor to prove the Black Mirror universe exists and all the stories take place in the same setting. In the Black Museum I spotted:

Photos of the 'victim' from White Bear and Michael Smiley's character.
The bath from Crocodile.
The DNA converter from USS Callister
The Arkangel tablet
A bee from Hated In The Nation
A mention of "old people uploading to the cloud" i.e. San Junipero
The embalmed(?) body of the artist from The National Anthem
and finally one of the death masks appears to be Charlie Brooker.

In a different episode, the porn film she watches in Crocodile is the one that gets made in Fifteen Million Merits.

I really like Black Mirror and I'm unafraid to say it

Also, jokes about the premise are fun

― mh, Tuesday, January 2, 2018 5:04 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me too

The first section of Black Museum (written by Penn Gillette!) was just fucking gross. And then the idea that people would enjoy owning a screaming keychain of a permanently-tortured human soul was misanthropic, even for Black Mirror.

I thought Metalheads was well-made, but I could have used a little more backstory/explanation. Is this a Skynet world?

Hang the DJ was pretty cool.

Surprised Black Mirror hasn't done the VR world hell idea, a la Iain Banks' Surface Detail...

It's not the best episode but I'm surprised how negative the reception to black museum is. there's way too much going on in it and none of the individual stories in it would be strong on their own, but idk it was fun in how over-the-top it all was

I've only watched 3 so far - Crocodile was stunning (landscape etc) and not too bad as a straightforward drama (end bit was laughably eye-rolly). It winds me up no end how the 'technology' plots don't stand up to the slightest scrutiny, not even where ideas overlap. For example even in Arkangel, people avoid the single child with the implant because of 'spying' fears; yet in Crocodile every living being is potentially subject to being on the giving/receiving end of similar 'spying' with a device common enough to be used by insurance companies yet it's not really known about.
Picking 'holes' obviously pointless to even start, but it's kind of frustrating how little effort's been put in to extend any idea beyond 'what if phones but too much'.

OK lol I take it back cos as I was typing this my laptop switched itself off

I had more of a problem with the idea (in the first episode) that you could generate a simulated copy of someone's personality and memories from their DNA.

I never thought of the different episodes of Black Mirror as all taking place in one universe, so your criticism doesn't bother me as much. Depending on how a technology evolved, it could make for very different use-cases. However, Black Museum seems to suggest that all (or at least some) of the episodes are from the same reality.

(in which case your criticism is totally valid)

As much as I enjoyed that episode - the memories being included in people’s DNA was pretty dumb.

i watched Marjorie Prime last week, and my final take was: it was like BM would be if Brooker wasn't an absolute pile of fucking overrated doggie plop.

20 minutes into season 4 episode 1. my prediction is something is going to go badly.

i do not think this guy will stand up to his business partner, gain confidence, and win the affection of that girl.

i hope i'm proven wrong.

oh fuck

Livetweeting Black Mirror could be pretty funny.

nerds are the worst

Haven't seen Black Museum yet, but I wasn't particularly assuming any take place in the same universe other than some sort of future western society that's like ours but with one thing changed/changing that somehow hasn't affected the rest of society (this doesn't apply to every ep obv).
Consider how many thinkpieces, jobs, opportunities etc smartphones (or even any one particular use of a smartphone, app, whatever) have spawned yet being effectively forced to show your memories on demand is like oh nbd

tbh every time I think of the cryptkeeper framing I mumble "gree hee hee"

Black Museum is very bad because of the tone. It's very SyFy Channel cheesy bullshit.

i like black museum--the tone doesn't strike me as that different from the Hamm Christmas Special--but it def feels like a different show than Metalhead, which felt refreshingly beamed in from a different channel