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how do you guys justify to yrselves not going out immediately and publicly protesting the war?

me: apathy is a big reason, but also, i always find myself viscerally repulsed by group fist-shaking.

but i think mass protest is good and important!- so why won't i just overcome my self-indulgent wallowing in alienation and soapanlipstick obsession with the scary abyss that divides everyone from evryone else- and just go DO IT?

there too much
there is too much
there is too much
there is too much

there is.

― gabriel rodriguez-doerr (gabe), Friday, 27 September 2002 22:46 (twenty-three years ago)

yep apathy too, but also an infant son and no babysitters...even crowds of non-violent protest marchers can turn into something else sometimes. this time, i sit it out and say 'rah rah' from the safety of home, and write emails to people in power ( like they ever READ them yeah ).
i like mass protests, and taking part does seem to breach the divide between people from all over when everyone is united for the cause.

― donna (donna), Friday, 27 September 2002 23:09 (twenty-three years ago)

My general problem tends to be that I don't really agree with the other people taking part apart from the really central issue, and I feel like whatever I'm thinking isn't quite properly expressed by the thing as a whole, and I get a little irritated and less able to rally my own enthusiasm. I realize this is not an adequate justification -- obviously it's a good thing to have people of different persuasions supporting one central point of view, each for different reasons -- but it does make the whole thing less enjoyable and thus less enticing.

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 28 September 2002 00:24 (twenty-three years ago)

its hard to generate that great feeling of being a part of a shared project when the only thing that unites a given grp. of protesters is, obv., a shared sense of a opposition.

we hate the same thing/ lets be friends. ?

the last rally i went to, i found myself standing next to a collegey lookin' kid who was holding a giant upside down american flag with the words "down with america" on it. what the hell. it just seemed so useless suddenly. who was his audience? his dad?

― gabriel rodriguez-doerr (gabe), Saturday, 28 September 2002 00:40 (twenty-three years ago)

(Hahaha his audience was you, evidently!)

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 28 September 2002 05:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Too many different issues get lumped together in those large protests. Considering this, and how my own opinions constantly waver, my protest sign would have to contain many clauses and exemptions making it impossibly large or with very small print. Plus the idea of being part of a mob really doesn't appeal to me.

― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 28 September 2002 06:48 (twenty-three years ago)

BNW -- just wave a "Down With This Sort of Thing" sign.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 September 2002 12:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Careful Now!!

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 28 September 2002 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I've just got back from it, and thought it was fantastic. Hundreds of thousands of people there, but unlike a lot of these events there were only two real issues involved - Iraq and Palestine, both of which are related in any case. I didn't make it as far as Hyde Park, it took so long to get as far as Piccadilly Circus and the road the protestors were allowed to march on NARROWED from there on, so I couldn't face standing there and not moving for another couple of hours.

Still, it was a huge, huge protest... amazing when you come to think of it, and I'm proud to have been a part of it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 28 September 2002 16:44 (twenty-three years ago)

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