Bob Dylan

http://video.bobdylan.com

Other videos have used a similar concept but I like that it was done for this track, because it creates this meta-commentary.

How does it feel?

Did you really just start a new thread called "Bob Dylan"?

Probably a good call. Probably no threads about Bob Dylan.

Have you guys heard this guy? INCREDIBLE voice but the stupidest lyrics I've ever heard...

Is this Jakob Dylan's dad?

Have we a thread for chronicles

How does it feel?

I think you're on your own on this one.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qxqxFsjURxY/TdNlSlmwsCI/AAAAAAAAAGA/E3II86kGJU8/s1600/bob-dylan-v-alpaca.jpg

Only 1,000 people were at that MCR "Royal Albert hall" gig...

Find someone that admits to booing..

The thing in the first post is kinda cool.

The thread needs a better title, but that video is just tremendous. Think I'll subject my class to the entire six minutes, flipping around at will (and making sure I end up on those pawn-store lunatics for "You better take your diamond ring...").

That is AMAZING.

the video is awesome & I was just about to post it but hexagon, dude, you so did not need to create a new thread

Did you really just start a new thread called "Bob Dylan"?

― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Did you really just start a new thread called "Bob Dylan"?

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― marcos, Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:42 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

love the way the history channel ppl really try to match bob's diction

what a good record 'like a rolling stone' is

otm

I left it on the kids channel. Lolz for days.

cannot stop giggling @ this, so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXFdikh-70

<3 crimsy for this thread title

Indeed

Was this video Dylan's idea?

Great question

Great video too

Can't stop watching--so cool

This thread title owns

Finally clicked through the OP to see what the fuss was about.

me too. wtf was all the fuss about.

Did you click through the channels?

did i what through the whats

Hit the up and down arrows whilst it played,

http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/BoardFiles/164/Emoticons/sunglasses.gif

who comes up with this bullshit

http://www.bobdylan.com/us/news/new-album-shadows-night-out-feb-3

"I've wanted to do something like this for a long time but was never brave enough to approach 30-piece complicated arrangements and refine them down for a 5-piece band."

SHADOWS IN THE NIGHT TRACK LISTING:

1. I'm A Fool To Want You
2. The Night We Called It A Day
3. Stay With Me
4. Autumn Leaves
5. Why Try to Change Me Now
6. Some Enchanted Evening
7. Full Moon And Empty Arms
8. Where Are You?
9. What'll I Do
10. That Lucky Old Sun

Already has its own thread on ILM:

Bob Dylan 'Shadows in the Night'

The old grouch turns 75 today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8W06T_yIw

Nobel Prize for Literature

https://www.theguardian.com/books/live/2016/oct/13/nobel-prize-in-literature-2016-liveblog

oh god – here we go. "Song lyrics are literature, maaaaan...."

Better him than fucking DeLillo.

Danils said that though the choice might seem suprisin,

Of course, if song lyrics are literature now, where's Lemmy's posthumous Nobel?

Only the fourth or fifth winner to appear on a Kurtis Blow track

Eh Dylan's probably not too worked up about this I'm not gonna be.

he's been w the professors and they've all liked his looks

well, there goes Facebook this morning

Lol, didn't dare to look at that

my sister is stoked

def not cutting my hair till after halloween now

good morning!

"but you just said you _were_ happy, kate. really and truly happy. and now you say this. are you, kate? are you happy really?"

yeah. yeah, i am. both those things are true. it's the best of times, it's the worst of times. when my egg cracked in 2019, i was overjoyed, and i was terrified, terrified of what that meant, terrified of what i'd have to _do_. and i'm still overjoyed. and i'm still terrified. i don't know what's next. i can't think about what's next.

i've lost everything and i have more than i've ever had, more than i ever dreamed of having. and here comes some fucking jokerman sneering at me - and he is. he's sneering at _me_. i don't believe that story that he's singing about himself, that everything is about _him_, really.

if he is singing about himself? he's wrong. he's fucking wrong. he has no clue what it's like. even with the press calling him a sell-out. even with weberman tapping his phone line. there's _no_ comparison. none at all. this cishet white guy doesn't have any fucking clue what it's like to be me. he just thinks he does.

voice of a generation. yeah. bob dylan definitely is the voice of a generation.

I don't mean to suggest my view is somehow universal or that you have to agree. I am just trying to provide some context that I personally find neglected that enriches the song and makes it a sort of wellspring for me even after hearing it a million times.

I don't think Dylan is saying he knows how you feel. The song is *rejecting* all that voice of a generation stuff. He's telling himself a hard truth that he doesn't want to hear but knows he needs to. And, maybe, he is telling the listener to listen to themselves as well.

This is a pretty good summary of what the song feels like to me:

i was overjoyed, and i was terrified, terrified of what that meant, terrified of what i'd have to _do_. and i'm still overjoyed. and i'm still terrified. i don't know what's next. i can't think about what's next.

i've lost everything and i have more than i've ever had, more than i ever dreamed of having.

Not to suggest that your life is reducible to a song or anything.

And now I've said everything I probably needed to say about this song for one lifetime.

otm---didn't think about all that 'til I heard his Before The Flood sweatbox ritual, heaving it: "How does it feeeeeeeeel", howling through the rest of the chorus, rattling the verses---and remembered a quote from another interview: "Everytime I say 'You' I mean 'I.' " Also as in "Advertising signs they con/You into thinking that you're the one/Who can do what's never been done/Who can win what's never been won/Meanwhile life outside goes on all around you." (Raspy loose puppet jittering over the balcony rail on BTF. Yeah, blame the Capitalists, man, with some degree of truth, but---if he hadn't gone that way ("I wanted to be bigger than Elvis..I used to sit in the dark and dream about it"), we'd have missed out on a lot---"I got nuthin Ma, to live UP to." Ha.

otm---didn't think about all that 'til I heard his Before The Flood sweatbox ritual, heaving it: "How does it feeeeeeeeel", howling through the rest of the chorus, rattling the verses---and remembered a quote from another interview: "Everytime I say 'You' I mean 'I.' "

i mean i get it, i make everything about myself too :)

anyway. having a shitty day today. whatever the song is about, i think it's mean-spirited. "punching down", as they used to say, not that i have any use for that kind of thing or ever did, really

Yeah the vibe I always get is schadenfreude, the addressee some upper middle class girl who didn’t probably idolize Bob Dylan enough. you think you’re so smart well look at you now, you pathetic superficial toad, exposed for all the world to see

Very much like Toby Keith’s “How Do You Like Me Now”

Maybe the original, but not on Before The Flood, where I prefer the versions of everything to originals.

Some parts of the song can be about himself, someone else, a third person, someone imaginary, Jackie O, etc. It’s long enough for it.

Been spending some time with Under the Red Sky lately, it's honestly not THAT terrible. The lyrics are indeed clunky on many of the songs and the version of "Born in Time" is far inferior to the Oh Mercy version from Tell Tale Signs, but its not like an album full of "Wiggle Wiggle".

Oops, had no idea this one was on ILE when I bumped it.

I Love Everything is Broken

I get scared when a prominent name pops up on both ILE and ILM.

wiggle wiggle is great-- the weird dread in it-- but title track, cat's in the well, handy dandy all fantastic too, full of shadows. unbelievable is a lot of fun to sing along to. born in time v stiff on it tho yeah. kind of a stiff song tho tbh or maybe i'm wrong.

gotta agree, not half as bad as I recall

though his voice/delivery hardly peaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316JC5kUSjQ

made me laugh

made me smile

even if they scripted it, it was still funny

I read Pledging My Time, which is all interviews with musicians who have played with Dylan over the years. I think it was one of my favorite Dylan books! I felt like I learned more about Dylan as a person and artist than I have from any of the other books I have read (No Direction Home, various Marcus books, Clinton Heylin's discography book, Paul Williams' Performing Artist).

It was especially interesting seeing the through lines from beginning to end. The recurring stories from different interviewees across the decades showing a consistency of character and approach. Some things that I learned:

1. Dylan is shy! It never occurred to me that he could be shy, given his bravado in 65-66, but really how self-assured he has seemed from the get go. I knew his reputation for fiercely protecting his privacy. Maybe it's the Bob Dylan mask he needs to keep the shyness in check to perform. It made me think how much of his act is just armor.

2. The consistency of his live approach since pretty much Rolling Thunder on. Hating to rehearse his songs, not explaining his methods, starting songs live by just strumming chords and expecting the band to follow him, not wanting his band to be locked in to performing songs the same way. Most interviewees talked about it in reverent tones, like they learned a lot from Bob's approach and took that with them long after they stopped playing with him.

Highly recommend the book as there are some great stories.

oh that sounds great, i will check it out

Yeah sounds interesting. What do they say about his musicianship? I feel like I've read several accounts from musicians being surprised/impressed by his chops and musicality.

I think people are surprised by his unique approaches to his instruments and his musicality rather than his chops. Benmont Tench is impressed by his piano playing. Several remark on his innate sense of timing and how they would watch his hands and especially his body to follow him on stage.

The interview with Spooner Oldham is so good. His wife kind of butts in to the interview to great effect. Her Bob stories are some of the weirdest ones from the book.

One of my favorites of his albums, New Morning, works because of his piano playing. I couldn't imagine a better player subbing for him.

I started following Bob on Instagram a bit ago. For the last couple of months, the account has been posting videos of obscure classic country, bluegrass, and rockabilly performances alongside old recordings of recitals of stuff like Andrew Jackson's last speech and Edgar Allen Poe's autobiography. In other words, a weirdo mixture of stuff you might expect from a Bob Dylan social media presence.

He just posted the song Kurt Kobain, from the 1996 album Searching for Jerry Garcia by Proof, a Detroit rapper from the group D12. I wasn't familiar with it and it's not a bad song. Yes, I know Bob was down with rap.

It made me wonder though; is soon-to-be 84 year-old Bob Dylan cruising the Internet, grabbing obscure 90s rap songs, and posting them to social media?

My head tells me he has a team that cultivates his social media presence. At best, maybe he tells a guy what to post.

My heart tells me, no, Bob Dylan puts on his reading glasses, fires up a spliff, and hunts and pecks on his phone keyboard one finger at a time, bobbing his head all the while.

I Want To Believe.

he is absolutely doing the posting

What makes you sure?

the feed doesn't read "this is coming from a team" it reads "an old man playing with his ipad"

He's definitely doing the tweets himself so it's not too much of a stretch from there to instagram.

seems like it has to be him. dylan has nothing to gain from expanding his social media presence. he doesn't need to curate his brand or hype his concerts & releases. he has plenty of money already. he basically lives on the road touring, so fiddling on IG fits perfectly with self-entertainment and and a way to share his restless curiosity.

It's possible he's choosing the content but having someone else do it for him, like a personal assistant or someone close to him (like a significant other or relative). That's not uncommon with some public figures on social media.

(i.e. "I want to post this video I found on YouTube - can you do that for me?")

I thought no way, but I'm being convinced.

Bob Dylan is that new ILM poster..

https://i.postimg.cc/RhjGpP5d/bobsday.jpg

My dad is the same age and I can't imagine him putting up with the discomforts of touring. I'm seeing him (Bob) for the first time this summer, mostly because I happened upon cheap good tickets. I don't really know what to expect. A somewhat comical hat? Looking forward to Lucinda Williams.

Pretty incredible to still be doing it at that age.

respect the hell out of him

but also the worst show i've ever seen, and he was only 48 then

Saw him that year too (with GE Smith et al) and totally agree it was terrible. And it was around the time of Oh Mercy, but with no songs from that album or anything that connected to it. He's gotten better.

Mookieproof, I was born on Bob Dylan's 30th birthday. Which makes me 55 now.

And means you too could've seen Dylan at age 18 like I did...

The only Dylan concert I've been to was in 2006 or 2007, when I guess we were 35 and 65.

(with GE Smith et al)

yeah GE was honestly the only reason it was vaguely tolerable. an acquaintance who worked backstage suggested that bobby was extremely drugged up

HAPPY BIRTHDAY YMP! 1971 crew 4 eva

happy birthday to Big D and YMP!

Did you really just start a new thread called "Bob Dylan"?

― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:56 PM (twelve years ago) bookmarkflaglink

One of my favourite posts.

lol

i've got my own Bob Dylan thread to do

lol

I haven't seen Dylan since 2021, but honest to god it was the best Dylan show I've ever seen, and I was thinking that the last two times I saw him, in 2017 and 2019 - all three times were around Thanksgiving at the Beacon. (I was hoping he'd keep up that annual tradition.)

I wasn't sure how the third time would go because it was after the pandemic hit and the band was completely new - Charlie Sexton was amazing at those previous residencies but he was now touring with Elvis Costello & the Imposters. I took my partner who never saw Dylan before, but what a show to make your first - when he actually talked to someone at the audience and made a Springsteen joke, I said "he NEVER does this anymore!" And his singing was so clear with so much more enunciation, I think the fact he had his lyrics out (because it was mostly new songs and he reportedly said his memory isn't what it once was) probably made a huge difference. Anyway, here's a clip of that Springsteen joke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iDPnyU8Wmk

(And of course happy birthday to Bob)

The first show of this leg of the tour he played “Baby Won’t You Be My Baby,” recorded in the basement tapes sessions and only ever released on the huge box set from 2013, never played live before.

Incredible. Just about the deepest of all cuts.