NRO's The Corner: Obamacare ‘like a house on fire’ with more flammable parts yet to come

there are tons of witnesses and accusers!

Pffft -- WOMAN witnesses and accusers. They're hardly credible what with their hysterias and cycles and what have you.

at last -- this is the NRO we love:http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/441007/podesta-e-mails-catholic-church-middle-ages-dictatorship

Women do have an ineradicable need for times and places to let their hair down and talk girl talk, and while boy talk may be rougher and different, men have the same need, especially when they are young and still figuring out the world and the opposite sex.

a) this is bullshit anyway and b) Trump was 59 at the time.

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https://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/788486006202888192

heh

Meanwhile, Democrats fight tooth and nail against every commonsense measure to protect election integrity – paring the state voter rolls of those who have died or moved away, proof of identification, proof of citizenship, etc. And heading into last night’s debate, the day’s big story was the exposure of two top Democratic operatives who specialize in voter fraud and sabotaging campaign events.

Why on earth would anyone, least of all Trump, presume the legitimacy of an election that hasn’t happened yet when it is open and notorious that the other side is cheating and insists on maintaining the systemic vulnerabilities that allow it to cheat? Particularly when Democrats from Al Gore and Bill Clinton on down did not accept the result of Bush’s election, and Democrats framed him as illegitimate even after their legal challenges were exhausted (and then frame the Supreme Court as illegitimate for upholding the election result).

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

Get ready for this shit over the next few days:

It is completely irresponsible to argue that a president who reaches 270 electoral votes is not “elected” and legitimate, right, Hillary Clinton? Only a shameless partisan with no concern for democracy or our system of government would insist that president is not elected, long after he’s taken the oath of office. Trump is insanely irresponsible to suggest that this election may be rigged and the outcome fraudulent. Why, who on earth would ever make such a charge?

At a private fund-raiser in Los Angeles for Democratic Sen. Jean Carnahan of Missouri, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton told the crowd that President Bush merely had been “selected” president, not elected, Newsweek reports in the current issue. Oh. That’s from October 2002.

As someone mentioned on cable this morning, the reason the case was Bush v. Gore was not because court cases are listed alphabetically, it was because Bush was the one who initiated court proceedings, so technically it wasn't Gore contesting the results.

Bush sued to stop the recount iirc

The counter to this ridiculous line is pretty obvious: if the deciding factor of this election comes down to a few hundred votes then by all means Trump should challenge it. If there is an unambiguous winner, then he should STFU.

So resigned these days that this was a headline:

Smokers Earn Less Than Non-Smokers, but Doesn’t Mean They Are Discriminated Against

And that's OK. and here's why.

lololol:

All of these illegal votes canceled the votes of legitimate voters, and if Justin Timberlake voted illegally in Memphis, he also negated the vote of a legitimate resident of Tennessee. While we can joke about celebrity hijinks (and Timberlake has certainly had his share of those), voter fraud is no joking matter. No one should be allowed to get away with such fraud, no matter who they are. Even Justin Timberlake.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/441448/justin-timberlakes-voting-selfie-did-he-commit-voter-fraud

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/441448/justin-timberlakes-voting-selfie-did-he-commit-voter-fraud

Any time these pantloads engage with culture, prepare to be alternately bored and mystified.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/441439/conservatives-guide-best-and-worst-nba

remember when that guy was going to run for president

Jon Snow’s Team — This isn’t a political reference, but Toronto loves the Raptors like the North loves the Starks. They are truly kings of the North.

yes, you should be the chief executive of this country.

Basketball is pure ‘Murica. It was invented in the heartland.

Basketball was invented in Massachusetts by a Canadian from Ontario, you dumbass.

not nro but

Is Your Daughter a Whore?
By Erick Erickson | October 31, 2016, 12:12pm

oh man: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/441647/gops-leverage-coming-supreme-court-nomination-fights

While President Clinton is failing to get her nominee(s) confirmed, there is always a chance that one of the current justices will announce their retirement or – God forbid – die. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 83 years old, Anthony Kennedy is 80, Stephen Breyer is 78. (Scalia was 79 when he passed.) If another justice departs the court, there wouldn’t be any more 4-4 splits. Depending upon which justice departs (and on Justice Kennedy’s thinking on the cases), you would probably see some 4-3 splits in favor of the originalist view.

- God forbid -

Or perhaps Ginsburg, Kennedy and Breyer all die - God forbid - and the court can just hand down 3-2 splits until a Republican president saves the day. Unless the future republican presidential nominees can't find their ass using both their hands, and the court dwindles to just Chief Justice Roberts. WIN!!!

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It's a testament to how Trump has fucked with normal discourse that NRO is neutered these days.

So I appreciate reminders of NRO's previous battshittery:

Tomorrow is the only trial Hillary Clinton will ever face for her crimes.

She will never be dragged into a court of law. Not just for the reason Andy McCarthy spelled out regarding her classified e-mail crimes – because a trial would expose the president’s own misdeeds. Even on the pay-for-play foundation, some minions might – someday – face legal consequences, but Hillary herself will skate. She’s protected, in the mafia sense.

Nor would a Senate trial convict her, if it were to come to that, rendering impeachment pointless. So long as the Democrats hold at least one-third of the Senate, it will never vote for her removal from office, no matter what she’s done in the past or does in the future. Literally, no matter what real-world action she takes – arresting David Bossie, shutting down Breitbart, closing churches that won’t perform gay marriages. I’d still like to think she wouldn’t try any of that – or at least that she wouldn’t be able to find anyone willing to do it on her order. But if she did, it is a metaphysical certitude that she would get at least 34 Democratic senators to vote against her removal from office. After seeing what’s happened over the past eight years, to suggest otherwise is delusional.

At least that post is somewhat within the bounds of reality - author recognizes that a) impeachment is futile and b) she probably wouldn't try to do those things

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Do Conservative Intellectuals Have More Fun?

by PETER AUGUSTINE LAWLER

December 6, 2016 11:33 AM So conservative public intellectuals — such as our good friend Yuval Levin — are thrilled that an article in the New York Times (not written by Ross Douthat) actually said that liberals have something to learn from conservatives. Liberals, in their programs for students, are all about progressive activism. Conservatives are all about Great Books — usually the greatest hits of our tradition of political philosophy. That might mean, as Damon Linker puts it, that conservatives are actually winning on the intellectual front. Liberals have to counter by getting their students to spend their quality time reading real books together.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

Manning isn’t a woman in need of rescue. He’s a soldier who committed serious crimes. He wasn’t a “whistleblower,” as many of his defenders claim. He just dumped hundreds of thousands of classified documents into the public domain for the purposes of “worldwide discussion, debates, and reforms” without the slightest regard for the lives of others. There is no excuse. Manning is a traitor who pled guilty to a lesser offense to avoid the full penalty for his crimes. He has received too much mercy already. Obama’s commutation of his sentence is a disgrace.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

Barfing in my mouth

it's no surprise that conservatives would lean heavily against pardoning her, because conservatives tend to side with the state whenever it uses its war powers and police powers, regardless of the details of the case. they would reflexively discount any argument that conscience and one's duties as a citizen gave manning enough authority to override the orders of a superior officer. as a liberal, I give more weight to the authority of conscience than anyone at NRO ever would.

still, it seems to me that whether or not manning committed a crime of sufficient weight as not to deserve clemency is something reasonable people could disagree about. NRO takes much worse positions upon far weaker grounds. this opinion, at least, can be respected as having a leg to stand on, even if vehemently objecting to an act of mercy is nagl for half a dozen reasons.

Reasonable people don't misgender trans women in print tho

of the recent intelligence breaches chelsea's situation is for sure the easiest to empathize w/ - from the leak to the conditions she was treated etc - i think i'm more skeptical re leaks than ilx in general and i think obama did the right think commuting her sentence. less sure that snowden should be pardoned and def think assange is a pos. NRO weirdly doesn't see that these things rest on a continuum - all violations of national security are equal in both damage done to the US and sympathy for the motivation. i guess bc violations of trust immediately put one outside the communal SELF + mark you as an outsider whom conservatives fastidiously ostracize (if not worse), no matter how and why they occurred; there's no comprehension of "patriotic criticism" (unless the criticism is of the 'we need two Stalins! No, fifty Stalins!' type)

I'm a bit conflicted about the Manning case, in part b/c of the barbarism of the sentence handed to her in relation to her crimes. David French, floated as a Trump alternative last summer, you might recall, is a former armed forces guy, thus less, ah, able to appreciate the quality of mercy.

there's nothing to pardon Snowden of, he hasn't been convicted of anything, much less sentenced. sorry if this is the 100th time somebody pointed this out, I'm catching up.

The same was true of Nixon, yet he was granted a pardon by Ford.

anyway NRO is a grease fire that is eternally refreshed with rancid oil from the Koch's dog food factories, so why does this thread still exist?

A president's pardoning power isn't dependent on conviction.

VDH, reminding me of NRO's glory days

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/444235/donald-trump-challenge-self-control

Who would oppose deporting illegal alien law-breakers or the neo-Confederate idea of nullifying federal law inherent in sanctuary cities?

rip states' rights

I also question the constitutionality of sanctuary cities tbh

(guess that's for the uncool conservative beliefs thread)

If Trump continues with these long overdue corrections and can unite with the Congress to push through legislation on economic reform, there will arise a sense among even some of his opponents on the left that the Obama trajectory of tribal polarization, doubling the debt, foreign-policy chaos, anemic growth, rogue federal agencies, climate-change obstructionism, etc. could not go on as it was.

uhhh am i reading this right

did he say the "Obama" trajectory of tribal polarization, doubling the debt, foreign-policy chaos, anemic growth, rogue federal agencies, climate-change obstructionism

this surprises you?

ha been a while since i've read VDH and needed to remember that "the opposite of what you say is true"

oh, i doubt it's constitutional too -- merely struck by how nullification is suddenly a bad thing again

I also question the constitutionality of sanctuary cities tbh

? not sure what's unconstitutional about it, the feds can't dictate how local PDs allocate resources, and it isn't the local PDs jobs to turn over arrestees to immigration. Now, if a federal deportation force is put in place in sanctuary cities and the local PDs don't defer to their authority, *that's* unconstitutional.

By ignoring the federal government's jurisdiction over immigration, the states are in effect ignoring -- I won't use "nullifying," for crissakes -- the law. No? Am I getting something wrong?

they're not ignoring the federal government's jurisdiction, the federal government can come in and take those people any time they want. they just aren't notifying the feds that they have them. cuz who has time for that shit (and who's going to pay for it?)