uggghghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
― weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link
Man, Fuck Disney.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
KILL THE MOUSE
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 01:48 (four years ago) link
any opportunity to be total dicks
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link
No one would have expected them to be particularly cool about the Fox acquisition but they're just straight-up showing their asses with this shit.
― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 03:27 (four years ago) link
There was a Savage Dragon panel with Malcolm unable to comprehend the commercial failure of Speed Racer film.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 1 November 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
An outsider/artist friend of mine asked me at the time, genuinely curious (as I worked in Hollywood), “Why was Speed Racer a flop?”My answer: “Because nobody went to see it!”
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Saturday, 2 November 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link
Purely bad timing for my part. I’d probably have seen it 3+ times in the theater if my life hadn’t been a smoking compost pile at the time. Granted, this would not have made up the necessary difference between budget and business.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 November 2019 03:57 (four years ago) link
Thanks for making me want to see it again right now when I’m supposed to be going to bed.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 November 2019 03:59 (four years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/martin-scorsese-marvel.html
Some say that Hitchcock’s pictures had a sameness to them, and perhaps that’s true — Hitchcock himself wondered about it. But the sameness of today’s franchise pictures is something else again. Many of the elements that define cinema as I know it are there in Marvel pictures. What’s not there is revelation, mystery or genuine emotional danger. Nothing is at risk. The pictures are made to satisfy a specific set of demands, and they are designed as variations on a finite number of themes.
― j., Tuesday, 5 November 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link
It’s genuinely tiresome.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link
The criticism of MCU movies as if decade upon decade of popular filmmaking hasn’t also been full of trite save the cat silliness, I meanthe MCU I don’t really find tiresome at all - maybe it could use more terror, paranoia, and hopelessness overall, but the it wouldn’t do what it says on the tin.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
the black panther sucks because it’s missing genuine emotional danger? You officially did not watch the black panther, the movie
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link
That there was bad stuff in the past doesn't mean that the nature of the bad stuff hasn't changed.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link
the more he elaborates the dumber this gets
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:33 (four years ago) link
the more you post that etc etc
― j., Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:33 (four years ago) link
lol idk why that double-posted but I stand by it
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link
He's right, you're wrong.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:46 (four years ago) link
the black panther sucks because it’s missing genuine emotional danger?
well, not *just* for that reason
― Simon H., Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:53 (four years ago) link
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, November 4, 2019
he's not even wrong. there have never been more opportunities for "risky" work to find an audience. just not at the multiplex. boo hoo, pour one out.
i mean of course it's ridiculous that Disney has now made more Maleficents than Snow Whites but it's pretty rich for a guy who puts "gimme shelter" in every other scene to bemoan the decline of symphonic audiences. now that was real music! these blues guys can't even read standard notation!
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link
lol haha i am a cineaste pew pew upon your blockbuster framchise
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:17 (four years ago) link
xpost so he's...rockist?
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link
Back in (decade) we made movies where actors said lines that (ham steak) audiences, on backdrops of pure (propane) with a truck and two (atelier)s
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link
Another way of putting it would be that they are everything that the films of Paul Thomas Anderson or Claire Denis or Spike Lee or Ari Aster or Kathryn Bigelow or Wes Anderson are not.
― jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:28 (four years ago) link
I mean I’m no moviegoer, but everywhere I go these past few weeks, I hear ppl talking about this Korean horror film that’s all the rage. Meanwhile, Terminator just flopped.
― jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:39 (four years ago) link
None of us are in the multiplex heartland, let's be honest.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:42 (four years ago) link
the fanboy reaction to this (on twitter, not on ilx) is so sad. the guy named a bunch of contemporary filmmakers he likes and ppl still act like he's william f buckley dissing the beatles in 1964.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:43 (four years ago) link
Neanderthal I know you’re joking but... otm?like what really does bum me out a little is the sudden discovery that martin scorsese is hella corny.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:53 (four years ago) link
When the Hollywood studio system was still alive and well, the tension between the artists and the people who ran the business was constant and intense, but it was a productive tension that gave us some of the greatest films ever made — in the words of Bob Dylan, the best of them were “heroic and visionary.”Today, that tension is gone, and there are some in the business with absolute indifference to the very question of art and an attitude toward the history of cinema that is both dismissive and proprietary — a lethal combination.
― jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:53 (four years ago) link
And I get that theatrical exhibition means a lot to him, I don’t begrudge him for that. I just don’t share the sense of “terrible sadness.”
― jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:55 (four years ago) link
appealing to bob dylan as an authority so on the nose it hurts
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:55 (four years ago) link
1) - this is great free publicity and that is almost certainly the prime reason why he's keeping this ball rolling2) - this is the real crux of his argument and who could argue with it: "So, you might ask, what’s my problem? Why not just let superhero films and other franchise films be? The reason is simple. In many places around this country and around the world, franchise films are now your primary choice if you want to see something on the big screen. It’s a perilous time in film exhibition, and there are fewer independent theaters than ever."3) - his other arguments as per marvel movies in general are admittedly hella flimsy, old man yells at cgi cloud and mostly appear to be predicated on the fact that he has no grounding in this universe and it holds no joy for him at all because of that4) - in general scorcese has done more to turn more people on to more otherwise unremembered films and fucking awesome piece of art than almost anyone so i'm perfectly happy to let him have this, especially given that the argument against him on social media is predominantly NUH UH DR STRANGE = BRAKHAGE5) - Parasite has made $100 million worldwide and is the feel-good cineaste story of the year; Joker has made ten times that in a month6) - man who has devoted his entire life to film is allowed to be sad that the current successful business model for studios is "spend $250 million dollars, make $500 million"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link
xps hey pal that's nobel prize winner™ bob dylan to you
― j., Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link
damn autocorrect making me look like I don’t know the difference between its and it’sforks otm tho
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:59 (four years ago) link
With any luck, the soundtrack to Guardians of the Galaxy 3 will overlap heavily with Casino and Goodfellas
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:59 (four years ago) link
no grounding in this universe
lol the spurious expertise to which cape and tights stans will appeal to justify their defensiveness
films are about THIS UNIVERSE, that's all the grounding you need to have insight into movies
― j., Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:01 (four years ago) link
j. with all respect I have no idea what you’re talking about
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:01 (four years ago) link
5) - Parasite has made $100 million worldwide and is the feel-good cineaste story of the year; Joker has made ten times that in a monthBut it’s playing in theaters. The goalpost is not that small films should somehow be at BO parity with the big ones, even Scorsese’s not saying that.
― jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:02 (four years ago) link
this is the THIRD time i've xposted this but I saw Irishman in theaters on opening night and the first two hours were so preordained, so much gangster fan service scripting, so much special effects and explosions that i honestly did have the super-smug "well how is this different from a marvel movie" thought but, you know what the last 30 minutes so painfully and honestly rip off the cardboard thin veneer of cool to reveal the pure sad nihilism underneath and act as apologia for scorcese's big dick bad guy fantasy fuel that as far as i'm concerned he wins.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:04 (four years ago) link
forks pretty much otm though. otoh, nobody’s going to remember who made Joker, and in a year, we’ll forget who starred in it too
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:04 (four years ago) link
parasite is NOT a small film btw! it won the palm d'or! it's got the best per theater opening weekend in the US for a foreign film in history! There's a big media campaign behind it!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link
also in 3 seconds nobody’s going to remember that I tried to be part of this conversation
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link
goddam forks I’m pretty certain that’s quite possibly the finest capsule review of THE IRISHMAN anyone’s ever going to write and it’s wasted on the MCU thread
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:08 (four years ago) link
xxp So did Pulp Fiction!! Where are the goalposts — true cinema is now a microbudget indie out of nowhere that sweeps into the Zeitgeist purely on the strength of its artistic vision?
― jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:09 (four years ago) link
tombot your Guardians 3 post didn’t get the recognition it deserved. I am now legit going to be disappointed if Gunn doesn’t go there.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:09 (four years ago) link
I mean I know nothing about Parasite other than it seems as far as you can get from a Marvel movie. But maybe Scorsese dismisses it too, I dunno.
― jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:10 (four years ago) link
Just looked it up, Parasite cost ~$11mm. That’s a small film!
― jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:11 (four years ago) link