Besides, if Lou Rawls, Leo Sayer, and Gino Vannelli can get their own S&D threads, why not Dead or Alive?
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
"AND I!"
Also, that line about sending this sloppy kiss to you.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
The best line in Spin Me Round is "I want someone's son", for the record.
― Ally, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Ally, I can't believe I'm the first person to say that "Brand New Lover" is better than "You Spin Me Round". It's a much more accessible pop song, IMO. (Not that that matters; look at how popular "Music" was!)
― Nicole, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
In any case, while in Vegas this past weekend at Caeser's Palace, they were blasting Dead Or Alive's "Brand New Lover", and I agree with Dan re: 2001. While "You Spin Me Round" is always going to be the classic, "Brand New Lover" was a superior pop song... the verses and chorus were just so well frosted. "Lover Come Back To Me" should have been the great followup, and "Big Daddy Of The Rhythm" is the lost single.. although I'm sure that song has been a leather bar classic since.
"Something In My House" I could take or leave. I always thought the album cover to Mad, Bad, and Dangerous To Know was just far too CREEPY than the music contained within. Pete Burns with black eyes = nooooooooooooo!
Now, who's going to admit love for Nude? Isn't this the album where the entire band sans Burns was dropped, and Petey became more gorgeous than his female protogés in the "Come Home With Me Baby" video? I remember the video, watching it with my mom one Christmas, and she said "GOD! HE'S GORGEOUS, now! HIS HAIR is better than any female model's that I've seen. WHAT HAPPENED?" I admit the song was pretty good, but I don't remember much from the rest of the album, per se.
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
oh, of course i knew of it ... just having some fun!
another amazing pete burns fact -- he's married, and to a woman! --> interview
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.toysnjoys.com/xbox/doaxbvball.jpg
― latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link
(hence why i said "they" "won", instead of he, etc.)
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Search: the singles to '86, mostly as mentioned, plus second-tier stuff like "Save You All My Kisses," and their early cover of "That's the Way I Like It," complete with ridiculous steamy locker-room video, if I recall...
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― rwillmsen (rwillmsen), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― dason jonovan, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link
...
Here it is..... an official compilation of Dead Or Alive videos. This is Pete Burns, attempting to write some notes, about the videos contained in this package. Some of you, who have bought this, might also have purchased the album "EVOLUTION" and will be familiar with my somewhat "abstract" style of writing liner notes.
Well, I am supposed to come up with "amusing anecdotes" about the making of these videos..... I can't ! In fact I found it agonising to have to watch them all back in order to compile this DVD. It all seems so long ago, and when we were "pushed" in front of film cameras, video was quite a new thing. I thought of them as sort of, "postcards" to various countries, that we might "chart" in; a way of saying "Hi, we are too busy to be there on your TV show, so here's a video instead." Largely I was mistaken, when given a choice all the countries we were too "busy" to go to said "We don't want to show the video...they have to BE HERE!" So, as far as I know, these videos were not exactly omnipresent in TV land. In fact, some of them were hardly shown at all...... After looking back at them (the first time I had to get drunk) on second viewing, I suspect there might have been slightly different reasons for not putting some of these videos on heavy rotation; I am sure some of you will know what I mean without me having to go into detail. What I can say is apart from the Tim Pope video "I'd Do Anything", as time went along I most definitely felt these are not really a good representation of "who" and "what" I am really about.
I was "in mainstream pop land" and too busy and hungry for "hits" to pay attention to "detail". We were having a "cheap laugh" by the time we did the video for "Spin Me" as nobody thought it would be a hit, and the formula seemed to work... for a while. By the time we got to "Something In My House", I felt I wanted to "express" myself on film, as well as record, amuse myself, show my "sense of humour" ...... Well apparently the manner in which I "peeled a banana" seemed to work against me/us! And, it was downhill all the way after that.
It seems to me it was perfectly acceptable for a "female" artist to be a bit "cheeky", but another thing altogether for somebody with my "disabilities" or "dubious sexuality" to even "wink" at camera! Of course by now I was "in on the joke" and if I couldn't be myself what was the point anyway? And, as there were still "budgets" available I did just that.... within reason.... so, by the time we got to "Come Home With Me Baby", I was off and running.... freedom.... and it felt great..... Of course if a video's success is judged by the amount of times it is on TV, by that time I was in commercial Siberia! But I never liked "hot" places anyway.
By this time Steve had taken control of editing the videos so they could convey "MY" vision, not the "directors brief". My brief! and a good job he did of it! By the time we got to "Rebel Rebel" OOOOOh! I was thrilled... a "punky" raw video that matched the vibe of the song!! Of course, nobody in TV land wanted to show it (Rebel Rebel) for some reason best known to themselves, they thought I was "brandishing a knife" and "swinging whisky straight from a bottle" in the end shots...... it was a comb and some mineral water!!!! So time flew by..... I was rarely asked to make a video again. I as a "male" artist became a "commercial liability" until.... "Hit And Run Lover" ..... and even then it was suggested that it "might be better" if we didn't see "the artist's lips". DON'T ASK ME !!!!!!!!
I refuse to give it any more thought it's just not a "logical" job I am in, and if I let that sorry excuse/suggestion get to me, we might never have made the video for "Spin Me 2003". Believe me, that was not an easy thing to convince anybody to do! But as it stands today, so far, that video still meets resistance in TV land, but I am happy with it and so are my "hardcore" fans and I feel privileged to still be able every once in a while to make these videos/records. It can be fun, it can be a nightmare, but even the tiniest bit of self expression is better than none at all. That's what I always hoped to inspire in people. Self expression, freedom and fun! But sometimes that has been/and is misinterpreted.... Hey!.... that's not my problem!
Songs sing themselves and a picture speaks a thousand words.... I hope you can "tune in" to the humour, see how hard it was to express it and swim in the memories this "sound and vision" package brings back to you. To any "new" recruits.... Hello.... welcome aboard, thanks for looking and I am compelled to tell you, in order to get to the future one simply has to acknowledge the past!
Love 2 u.... Pete Burns
― dali madison's nut (donut), Saturday, 31 December 2005 06:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 23 April 2007 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 23 April 2007 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 23 April 2007 06:17 (seventeen years ago) link
evidence that I have been OTM for 10 years
― a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Whoa, news coming in now that Pete Burns has died, cardiac arrest:
https://twitter.com/davidsim/status/790605733809315841
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
god, RIP
― - SOLO - Pink Dolphin, Bubbling Cassina (frog), Indris, Monkeys, Tiger (soref), Monday, 24 October 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link
RIP
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, 24 October 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
RIP Pete ;_;
― Millions of species Faye Dunaway (Tom D.), Monday, 24 October 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link
poor bugger never got to enjoy the royalties from the insanely ott boxset that has only just been released.
i dread to think of the tabloid headlines.
rip pete.
― mark e, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
RIP.
― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Monday, 24 October 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link
― here we are now entertain us (snoball), Monday, 24 October 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
― electric wight dorkestra (crüt), Monday, 24 October 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
Listening now to Boy George interviews Pete Burns live on radio
https://vimeo.com/12690462
― PappaWheelie V, Monday, 24 October 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
(not live)
This is great - memories of a shop assistant:https://twitter.com/i/moments/790630684754866176
― Jeff W, Monday, 24 October 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
Just about to post that. Amazing stuff.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 October 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
i have tried to convince geoff/age of chance to post a pic he has re the probe crew with pete.
its wonderful.
― mark e, Monday, 24 October 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link
Strange. Wikipedia still have him as alive.
― Freedom, Monday, 24 October 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link
http://flashbak.com/october-1985-morrissey-and-pete-burns-were-the-very-odd-couple-12325/
― mark e, Monday, 24 October 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link
apparently the probe era stuff is from a personal stash so i am not allowed to post ..
― mark e, Monday, 24 October 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link
xx-post:
No they don't!
― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Monday, 24 October 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link
I saw he was due on "Loose Women" today, I guess he wasn't as its a live show.
― Mark G, Monday, 24 October 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link
It's tragic how so little people know that Pete Burns was part of the Liverpool post-punk Eric's scene alongside Pete Wylie, Ian Broudie, Frankie Goes To Hollywood, The Teardrop Explodes, Echo & The Bunnymen, Bill Drummond etc. He was right in the thick of all that stuff, yet is sadly destined to be remembered as the guy that had a lot of plastic surgery and sang that Stock Aitken Waterman produced song about being spun 'round like a record.
― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Monday, 24 October 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link
Yeah the Pete Frame family tree on Liverpool 1980, when I first encountered it, really helped open my eyes to his place in it all:
http://blog.shelflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/liverpool19801.jpg
And the description of him in there is astounding:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvjtjhGVYAE2xjd.jpg:large
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 October 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link
Yeah,but had it not been for that record, yr auntie etc wouldn't know him at all.
The rest of us can remember him for all of those things.
― Mark G, Monday, 24 October 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link
It's tragic how so little people know that Pete Burns was part of the Liverpool post-punk Eric's scene alongside Pete Wylie, Ian Broudie, Frankie Goes To Hollywood, The Teardrop Explodes, Echo & The Bunnymen, Bill Drummond etc
this.i only found out via geoff/aoc.
― mark e, Monday, 24 October 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link
a couple of nice photos of wayne hussey-era dead or alive:
http://burningtheground.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/B.-Back11.jpg http://images.45worlds.com/f/12/dead-or-alive-misty-circles-dub-mix-epic-12.jpg
― Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Monday, 24 October 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
That DVD sleeve note is ex+, mind you it could suit the maj of such vid collections
― Mark G, Monday, 24 October 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link
was wondering why a Dead or Alive thread was so busy. RIP.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 06:20 (seven years ago) link
Just heard their Prince cover for the first time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN2mlzaP3Cg
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
This one's less memorable than "Pop Life," but it's still fun as Dead or Alive doing a random cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3KefyzCGUY
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link