― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Sunday, 4 January 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 4 January 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Sunday, 4 January 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago) link
But anyway, The Pixies utterly owned Nirvana in every way.
― Stupid (Stupid), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago) link
"all the Pixies did was that "Fight Club" song -- nate detritus (n***p*****550...), January 4th, 2004."
Yes, well, I'd rather be making 'passe' comments than outright stupid ones.
― Stupid (Stupid), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link
????
― Zzz (-_-) zzZ (Wintermute), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Stupid (Stupid), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Stupid (Stupid), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 January 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 4 January 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Stupid (Stupid), Sunday, 4 January 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 4 January 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 4 January 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Sunday, 4 January 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 4 January 2004 21:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link
― mei (mei), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link
Well, at least they were original.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Flotsam of the Fishfolk (Flotsam of the Fishfolk), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Jones (Crackity Jones), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Schwingung (Damian), Sunday, 4 January 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago) link
"Hey, we are weird">>>>>>>>"music can be heavy and catchy at the same time"
But that's just me.
― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 4 January 2004 23:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Schwingung (Damian), Sunday, 4 January 2004 23:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Schwingung (Damian), Sunday, 4 January 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Rachel, Monday, 5 January 2004 00:04 (twenty years ago) link
and they would be right (although you may have trouble getting an answer from kurt). the pixies gave nirvana the tools to be nirvana.one the other hand nirvana was a great band and it isn't fair to give so much credit to a band that influenced them.when it comes down to it liked the pixies better - their songs covered a wider range of sounds/stiles. nirvana was there when i was in high school but they really didn't "get me through".
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 5 January 2004 00:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Stupid (Stupid), Monday, 5 January 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago) link
― may pang (maypang), Monday, 5 January 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 5 January 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 5 January 2004 00:48 (twenty years ago) link
Also, Foo Fighters > Breeders
(cough)
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 5 January 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Davlo (Davlo), Monday, 5 January 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 5 January 2004 01:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:00 (twenty years ago) link
whereas i was 14 in 1992, and therefore nirvana are way too bound up in pimply adolescent frustration/longing/confusion and have accumlated too much baggage ala a snowball rolling down a hill (even though really they're just as "blank" as the pixies) to be able to "enjoy" now.
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:04 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Davlo (Davlo), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:06 (twenty years ago) link
That's `cos he WAS always constipated.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:09 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:33 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 5 January 2004 02:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 5 January 2004 03:02 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:29 (twenty years ago) link
― christhamrin (christhamrin), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:50 (twenty years ago) link
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 5 January 2004 06:20 (twenty years ago) link
re: singing voice. i pick black because he had a shit singing voice.he had a shit singing voice and he did his best with what he had, - his way of kind of talking + his screaming etc. was brilliant. he gave f'ing 110% yeah¡
i'm glad black (as far as i know) didn't get into heroin, i'd hate to hear him sound constipated + fucked up like kurt.
+ kim, kim just had a nice voice. nothing special.
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 5 January 2004 06:27 (twenty years ago) link
Actually, I just realized the ultra-cool answer to this is "neither."
― billstevejim, Monday, 5 January 2004 07:23 (twenty years ago) link
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 5 January 2004 07:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Monday, 5 January 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link
Ick. Whatever reservations I have about Nirvana, they were a thousand times better than the directionless, testicularly-challenged jumble of tune-free sounds that was Pavement.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 5 January 2004 12:44 (twenty years ago) link
― danh, Monday, 5 January 2004 16:25 (twenty years ago) link
I thought kurt had ripped off the chorus from u-mass but I never bothered to check alb release dates. quite a coincidence.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 5 January 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Monday, 5 January 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago) link
Also excepting the ones on Unplugged Nivana did awful renditions of a lot of great songs. It is funny how much I like so many of the bands Kurt would name drop before he shot himself in the head much better than I like Nirvana. All thats left is some lingering nostalgia I have for the tape of Nevermind I used to like.
― christhamrin (christhamrin), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 03:52 (twenty years ago) link
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 5th, 2004.
Ha! I love this. I also love Pavement, but this is very funny. And it wouldn't work without the "whatever reservations I have about Nirvana," clause. Very nice.
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 04:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 6 January 2004 04:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 05:04 (twenty years ago) link
Would people please stop talking about the whole teen-angst Nirvana thing. I am so sick of hearing about this. I'm so sick of looking at video footage of Kurt Cobain slumped over his guitar at some MTV unplugged thing. I wish he was still alive, so that he could get over himself. I wish his fans would please drop the Kurt Cobain as deity thing. blah blu baa!!!!
Anyways, yeah so the Pixies get my vote by a wide margin.
― Debito (Debito), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 09:40 (twenty years ago) link
― s n d, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 10:34 (twenty years ago) link
Is anyone trying to keep count?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago) link
As in: "lacking tunes", something they were guilty of.
Pavement sucked. There, I said it.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago) link
Please don't call the Pixies "Goth", Anthony. Just please don't do it.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link
That's all 4AD's design wing, Envelope 23. The Pixies, meanwhile, were as "goth" as Creedence Clearwater Revival, fer chrissakes.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link
Pixies songs = fill of obscure Biblical references.
QED!!!!!!!!!
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link
When i first heard Teen Spirit the Pixies influence was unmistakeable.
Nirvana= one third Pixies, one third Replacements, one third Husker Du.
― Officer Pupp, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago) link
-- Officer Pupp (officerpup...), January 6th, 2004."
BZZZZT.
Nirvana - two thirds Jesus Lizard, one third Sex Pistols.
― Stupid (Stupid), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Flotsam of the Fishfolk (Flotsam of the Fishfolk), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago) link
Eh?? I just don't get it. Is it because of the quiet verse/loud chorus thing? But everybody does that! That's been going on since the sixties! Ever heard "What Is and What Should Never Be" by Led Zeppelin? Or "I Had Too Much to Dream Last Night" by the Electric Prunes?
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 January 2004 07:40 (twenty years ago) link
Admittedly this isn't so much in evidence on the later albums but on Bleach it's pretty much undeniable.
Steve Jones / Sex Pistols had a fair bit of influence on the guitar sound on Nevermind too I reckon.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 8 January 2004 11:06 (twenty years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Thursday, 8 January 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago) link
The only good thing about the Joke supporting the Pixies is that ideally it turned a few spend-ready Pixies fans onto a superior band. Beyond that, the Pixies aren't fit to felch the cow-dung from between the treads of Killing Joke's collective Doc Martens.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 8 January 2004 13:24 (twenty years ago) link
― R t V (Jake Proudlock), Thursday, 15 January 2004 10:51 (twenty years ago) link
Not trying to take things off topic or anything, but I did take issue with Alex's assertion that Pavement "sucked". I'm hardly impartial in that particular debate, being a pretty big fan of that band, but it did seem a little harsh and somewhat undeserved. It's fine to not like them, most people I know don't like Pavement, but I think you'd have a pretty hard time convincing most critics as well as music fans that they sucked.
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 15 January 2004 11:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 15 January 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago) link