I think history will be kinder to it once kids like me who bought it by the millions and never turned their backs on it start being in charge at all your major music mags. Let's start the trend here! This can be C/D, S/D, etc. I intended to take it on as a White Album exercise and try and cram it onto a single disc, but I really can't see a way to do it without cheating somehow, since a couple of the album's key ingredients end up getting expressed as really long songs ("Porcelina" and "XYU", to be specific). Plus, you'd be hard-pressed to leave off any of the five singles. At best I can imagine it being only just slightly trimmed back and released as two separate single albums - both discs have a few things I would let go, but not half the material by any means.
Oh, hell, let's try it anyway.
SIDE A - From Starlight To Oblivion
Tonight, TonightZero1979XYULily (My One And Only)Bullet With Butterfly WingsCupid De Locke
SIDE B - Porcelina and the Machines of God
Where Boys Fear To TreadBodiesThru The Eyes of RubyGalapagosThirty-ThreePorcelina of the Vast OceansMuzzle
Loses so much of what I love about this album, but, so it goes. And I've spent far too long on this as it is, so, adieu; I leave it up to y'all.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link
SIDE B:Love
and maybe some other songs too
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Thirty-Three
― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link
My 1999 take. I don't feel like updating it.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jimmy Mod is COMPLETELY MISERABLE SAN DIEGO (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking, babies! (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link
I relate to a lot of what Ned says in his review. Having Alan Moulder involved on this probably helped big time!
― Matt Olken (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link
I think the exclusion of "Stumbleine" on the original list is a crime (as well as the two songs I mentioned upthread).
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link
But.... It would have worked better as a 70 minute plus single album rather than an overlong double CD.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 08:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 09:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link
It's a true stunner - just pure indulgence from start to finish and yes, at the time I would listen to it from start to finish. I tried listening again the other day - some bits stuck out and others faded into the background, but that's merely from having heard it so many times that it's been etched upon my eardrums like a hot pie or a pasty. No mainstream rock band is doing something this big at the moment. It seems that after OK Computer and Mellon Collie, people decided to go back to just drums/guitar/bass punk singalongs as they knew they couldn't compete. I even like the jokey tracks at the end. "Beautiful" just sums up mid-teen crushes so well. "We Only Come Out At Night"; "Lily My One And Only" - these are awesome fun tunes like those on the White Album. Then you've got wicked rockers like "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" and "Love". It's too too good.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link
But to a 15 year old kid, this tastes like candy-apples. It is a decade old album, and in the same way that at the time we laughed at the Human League, the Smiths and Big Daddy Kane, so to do we about this in 2006. This is why it'll be critically re-evaluated in another ten years and top many a best-of list.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Hmm. I was 24. Maybe it's an American thing. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link
Cheers to Charlie.
― Andi Headphones (Andi Headphones), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link
entirely OTM.i still go back to this one occasionally, but end up only listening to rough 1/2 of it. otherwise, it's a total nostalgia trip and not entirely a worthwhile one.
as far as the singles go- i can really only listen to 1979+33 (odd, both the number name ones!). zero's alright on a drunken night. BWBW's=blech. even as a fan.
Siamese Dream still destroys this album for me. Picese, too.Adore= dreck of drecktown.Machina 1= only slightly better.
― edde (edde), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― the Adversary (but, still, a friend of yours) (Uri Frendimein), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't have a particular CD80 version in mind (yet), but I know that I'd cut "Zero" and "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" in a heartbeat. I don't particularly care for either.
And I could take or leave "Tonight, Tonight," but "Thirty-Three" and "1979" would be essential.
― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link
This gets my award for worst lyrics ever:
"Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanlinessAnd cleanliness is godliness, and god is empty just like me (dumb)Intoxicated with the madness, I'm in love with my sadness (peeee-YUKE!)Bullshit fakers (like Billy?), enchanted kingdoms The fasion victims (Oh, like Billy?) chew their charcoal teeth" (dumb)
― the Adversary (but, still, a friend of yours) (Uri Frendimein), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link
I'll never forget seeing the debut of the "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" video on Much Music. It would have been October 95.
The lyrics, the riffs, the imagery in the video - all of it made me nauseous. I was extremely disappointed with the album, and I didn't pay attention to them from that moment on.
I think Wogan made a good point. Probably would have sounded great had I been a teenager. I was 23 at the time.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
@ concept of this thread
― benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
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01 Where Boys Fear to Tread02 BodiesAn excellent start to disc two of Mellon Collie; my version keeps both tracks intact, mirroring the one-two punch of "Cherub Rock" and "Quiet, rocking out at the start and avoiding the singles so far.
03 MuzzleThis should have been a single from Mellon Collie; it would be the lead single (and prominently placed third track, like "Today") on my version.
04 197905 Here Is No WhyA good spot for a couple strong songs (think "Hummer" and "Rocket") which deserve to come sooner than later in the album; "1979" would be the second or third single, along with...
06 Thirty-Three07 We Only Come Out at NightThe last of the three singles from my version gets the spot of "Disarm" here, with an excellent low-key song (a la "Soma") to follow it and complement its mood perfectly.
08 JellybellyLest the album go soft before its time, "Geek USA" is mirrored by this one.
09 GalapogosThe epic song, like "Mayonaise," that would rightfully be a fan favorite comes at this point; too far back in the track listing for fair-weather fans, just right for those who learn the album front-to-back.
10 Stumbleine11 Thru the Eyes of Ruby12 Lily (My One and Only)Following the path of "Spaceboy"-"Silverfuck"-"Sweet Sweet" comes this trio of songs; the album's ambitious, lengthy, epic song bookended with a couple shorter, prettier ones.
13 Farewell and GoodnightThe closer on Mellon Collie stays where it should be, closing the album (like "Luna") with subtlety and beauty.
I don't really miss anything from the original Mellon Collie with my version, either.
> The ridiculous RAWK songs - "Zero," "Bullet with Butterfly Wings," "Fuck You," "Scorched Earth," and "XYU" - would be perfect for '90s alt-rock bands who actually deserve to suck, not the Pumpkins.
> The slower discarded songs - "To Forgive," "Cupid De Locke," "Take Me Down," "In the Arms of Sleep," "Beautiful," and "By Starlight" - are sappy and forgettable to my ears, especially compared to similar songs that made the cut.
> "Mellon Collie," the instrumental intro, was appropriate for an ambitious double album, not for my version.
> A couple songs in particular - "Tonight, Tonight" and "Love" - just didn't fit the overall mood of my version of the album.
> Two epics on my version would be excessive, so "Porcelina" was left behind in favor of "Ruby," which works better in context.
― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link
I've never had any use at all for "Stumbleine." You're probably right about opening with "Where Boys Fear To Tread" - I thought about doing it that way too, I mean that opening bass slide is such a fabulous stage-setter! Something appeals to me about cutting straight in on the out-front riffing trudge of "Zero" though - it sets up an idea of what the album is that will then be immediately blown to pieces by what follows.
Glad to see "Thru The Eyes of Ruby" and "Galapogos" getting their due in any case. And my local alt-rock station actually played "Muzzle" so much I thought it was the final single!
No mainstream rock band is doing something this big at the moment. It seems that after OK Computer and Mellon Collie, people decided to go back to just drums/guitar/bass punk singalongs as they knew they couldn't compete.
This is interesting! I was satisfied thinking of these albums as unique for the period, but has mainstream rock really not produced anything in this vein since? I'm racking my brain and I'm sure we're missing something really obvious. Granted, there have been "ambitious" mainstream rock albums - I guess American Idiot is being viewed this way - but not with this much sonic variety and sheer quantity of different ideas and hooks in play. Who'll be the next to try? For some reason I think Modest Mouse could have it in them - they've certainly done huge widescreen albums before, and have shown at least some willingness to bend on the guitar-band format. Dunno, though.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't really like the kitchen sink approach, though - Cave's album is more sonically cohesive than Mellon Collie could ever claim to be, and a lot stronger for it. I much prefer Mellon Collie in its truncated form; I would skip around anyway listening to the whole thing.
What would you suggest to take the place of "Stumbleine" as a slower transitional track to "Ruby" anyway?
― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link
second the praise of abbatoir blues/lyre of orpheus.
― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Interesting that you draw a comparison between "Soma" and "We Only Come Out at Night," b/c "Soma" = EPIC GUITAR FREAKOUT. "Porcelina" would seem like a more obvious choice, but I think I understand yr choice.
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 10 October 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link
HOLLA BACK STAN I GOT U COVERED!!!!!!!!
― pumkin (pumkin), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link
They supposedly had 45 songs going into the studio.
Just a totally played out venture, Darcy and Johnny Aha were nowhere to be heard from.
― Brandon Welch (Brandon Welch), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 04:05 (seventeen years ago) link
I think "We Only Come Out at Night" relates more to the first 3:00 and last :45 of "Soma" than to the guitar parts in the middle - I was really trying to capture the overall mood of the song, and I remember "Soma" as a come-down in the wake of the bombastic high of "Disarm" more so than a guitar song, believe it or not.
― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link
No, they had a lot more. I've heard 'em.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link
28 songs on Mellon Collie, plus 21 Corgan or Iha songs that ended up being b-sides . Damn, that's enough songs for four full length albums!
But yeah, they needed an editor for this album. I always thought the second disc was much stronger than the first. I would take...
Cupid de Locke, Galpagos, and Porcelina off the first disc.
Thirty-Three, In the Arms of Sleep, 1979, Stumbeline, X.Y.U. (maybe), We Only Come Out at Night, Lily, By Starlight off of the second.
That comes out to about 52 minutes, and a much less rocking album. But to my ears at least, the more rocking Pumpkins songs are the ones that have dated the worst. The guitar histrionics don't really blow me away like they used to, and that's when Corgan tends to bust out his most embarassing lyrics. My version would come out closer to the mood of Adore, which is fine with me because I always liked Adore better than Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie or Gish.
― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
I haven't listened to either disc of this album in forever, however, I do often listen to a mix CD I made a few years back containing a short list of their longest, most overblown songs (which are invariably my favs) - "Porcelina..." and "Through The Eyes Of A Ruby" are included (as is my other favorite ginormous Punkins jam "Starla").
― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Thru The Eyes of a RubySomaSilverfuckStarlaPorcelina of the Vast Oceans
― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link
"(Aeroplane Over the Sea or something like that)"
Even better!
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link
this is, obviously, crazy talk.
if you do not concede that Siamese Dream's roar+bluster demolishes Adores faux-goth leanings and electronic feel, you, sir, are missing out on the whole sheebang.
"No, they had a lot more. I've heard 'em."happily, after all these years, i think i've heard a good amount of em, and have em in high quality (thank you Gravity Demos!!!! that thing slays me in many ways, but none as better {or as telling as where MCIS would go} as the indominateable 'Jackboot') which, ya know,i got that goin for me...
― edde (edde), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link
But Adore can never be the bad Smashing Pumpkins album because "Appels + Oranjes" PWNS PWNS PWNS
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 12 October 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link
i can't count the number of times i've been in what started as an actual conversation, but gradually morphed into the other person yelling at an imaginary person but actually just staring and yelling at me in real life, as if i held the opinions of the imaginary person.
― Karl Malone, Friday, November 24, 2017 9:34 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my dad does this to me all the time, it's funny because he always punctuates it with this bug eyed stare at the end like "REALLY, I'M NOT KIDDING", as if he's not totally preaching to the choir
― brimstead, Friday, 24 November 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link
I love Tonight Tonight but that bald chap who appears to be a complete crank (in a bad way) has the worst 'singing' voice this side of Kelly Jones.
― Custard Cream, Friday, 24 November 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
"Well, Jimmy's departure is the biggest, #1 thing. And then I would say just the general decision to let go of the rock sound, even before Jimmy Chamberlin left the band."
So Jimmy's departure wasn't the #1 thing, then - they already had a direction in mind.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 24 November 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
:/
― Simon H., Friday, 24 November 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
my all time favorite james interview moment, from this july 99 web chat:
<g60girl> what kind of cars do you guys drive?<James> I have a Volvo.<lunatriste> Whats the new album going to be called?<James> I have a Volvo.
― gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Friday, 24 November 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link
lmao love james and d’arcy
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 24 November 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
jimmy is also pretty hilarious in the zwan doc
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 24 November 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
Have any of you ever seen Vieuphoria?
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 25 November 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link
vieuphoria rules
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 25 November 2017 01:51 (six years ago) link
Honestly, the Frogs interlude is my favorite part
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 25 November 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsL-5YjD9Pw
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 25 November 2017 01:53 (six years ago) link
pulseczar rulesfrench movie theme rules
― brimstead, Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link
vieuphoria kicked off a series of events that ended with me singing "Grandma in the corner with a penis in her hand going no no no no no" in my head on a fairly regular basis for several years
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
i love vieuphoria though parts of it are ponderous
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link
though when i was a kid the dvd release of vieuphoria was like a major event in my life, a real holy grail moment lol
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link
1994 amirite
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link
(this vhs tape was part of my Christmas present that year, I think?)
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:21 (six years ago) link
i never owned it but my friend had the VHS in high school and we'd watch it all the time after school
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link
the thing i remember watching that really got me hooked was a "videography" show on MTV where billy/james/d'arcy ran through and talked about all the videos up through melon collie.
― brimstead, Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link
this Apathy Video channel keeps delivering. after a 2 week break, they're back with some more gold. afaik the full tape of this show has never circulated, and the quality is much better than the only clip of it I've ever seen (Fuck You).
this show has always confounded me. they get a 40 minute set at a benefit show, play 3 singles in a row, then Fuck You... then a 20 minute Silverfuck. the swagger and gall of the Pumpkins at their peak right before the OD in New York is just stunning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u589RhkuJN0
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
As the original poster says, the reason it gets put down is because of Corgan's unwillingness to make an album for adults. If I had been 25 when this came out I'd probably have hated it - the bawling vocal, the post-grunge/proto-emo "you don't understand me OR MY MUSIC" white middle class ethic; the Queen/Prog-inspired pomp and circumstance. It's enough to make a man sick.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:54 AM (eleven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flappy bird, Saturday, 16 December 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link
Dog Latin was wrong - this album has never went away. It's been in "best albums you must hear before you croak" type of lists since ever.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 16 December 2017 09:08 (six years ago) link
flappy thanks for that video. hadn't heard this since i was there27:15>29:50 wowowow
― alomar lines, Sunday, 17 December 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link
ah awesome! that must've been a crazy show, lineup was stacked
― flappy bird, Monday, 18 December 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
i seriously can't imagine the life of the person who only likes the quiet smashing pumpkins songs. they probably put salt in their coffee and live in a tent in a tree
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:52 AM bookmarkflaglink
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link
i can play "here is no why" on the drums now :D
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
of course, next to "1979" that is probably the simplest non-synthetic drum part on this record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
Tribute cover version of the full album next
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link
the hi-hat accents on "1979" seem like they'd be tricky to pull off!
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
oh i guess it's the drum machine that does those:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuOFL_XU7jc
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
^^
and even then, hard to pull off with the same feel (drum-machine assist in the original I guess)
according to leading randos, Chamberlain didn't bother trying to do the hi-hat accents live, either
xp
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
i tried to drum along to "geek usa" yesterday too and it was hilarious. chamberlin is a tank
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
Nah JC is playing along with the drum machine on 1979, I can't listen to confirm but iirc the hi hat accent only comes in after the first stanza?
Here is No Why is so much fun to play, Brad
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link
these are things i already implicitly knew but there's an extra reality to it when i'm trying to make my idiot arms and legs do anything he does, especially at that speed
i can play "rhinoceros" too, primarily because it's slow. it's also a blast xp
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
what about To Forgive? that's a great drum part
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
iirc the hi hat accent only comes in after the first stanza
yep
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
SP has like 10000000 great drum parts
hearing what JC can do with just a lil trap kit in the first sets of the pajama shows is so valuable. I think they played To Forgive in that set? or no, they alternated.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
― flappy bird, Wednesday, July 15, 2020 10:16 AM (forty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
i played along with it yesterday too but i'm pretty sure i severely bowdlerized it, gonna have to study further
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
i'm honestly proud of myself for even being able to suss out how he's playing what he's playing without drum cover videos, when i first started drumming jimmy's playing made absolutely no sense to me
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
one of several SP songs I can't even passably air drum
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
when i hear drum rolls, i know i'm either about to cherub rock or watch pocahontas on disney+
― a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
those snare rolls during the second and third choruses of Here is No Why >>>>
great use of the Ab octave pumpkin chord in that part!
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link
that song kicks so much ass
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
I haven't drummed in forever but I would love to attempt drumming 'Muzzle'. At least that first bit. I assume the logistics are a little something like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV5JOQyUYNg
― Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
The drums on "Jellybelly" are maniacal.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link
Years ago I had friends that put together a Pumpkins cover band for a benefit and I hung out at a bunch of their practices. Even just watching someone else try to learn Jimmy's parts brought me a whole new appreciation.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
did they try Jellybelly? lol
yeah even the "simple" parts are deceptively complex (like To Forgive, or even the straightforward electric version of Disarm where he comes in on the second verse)
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link
tomorrow’s just an excuse away
― brimstead, Friday, 7 April 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
my 6 yr old loves "an ode to no one"
― Heez, Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:32 (one year ago) link