But was there a Suck Boom that I'm unaware of? Because they didn't miss that train.
― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:11 (twenty years ago) link
― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:14 (twenty years ago) link
No. They were too separate and genius and wonderful.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:15 (twenty years ago) link
Destroy that horrible horrible band My Sister's Machine. Remember those grim fucks?
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:20 (twenty years ago) link
AARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
How.....*HOW*...can you cite the wonderful Redd Kross as having anything to do with fuckin' Grunge??? They WAAAAYYY predate all that stuff.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:23 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:26 (twenty years ago) link
― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:28 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:39 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:40 (twenty years ago) link
Yes, you are correct sir!
sixteen deluxe, especially their excellent final album "emits showers of sparks"
Except they had an album after that.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:45 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:48 (twenty years ago) link
other than that ...
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:54 (twenty years ago) link
Behold.
did DIG ever do ANYTHING ELSE
Behold
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 14 March 2004 04:13 (twenty years ago) link
― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Sunday, 14 March 2004 04:48 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 14 March 2004 04:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Cacaman Flores, Sunday, 14 March 2004 08:15 (twenty years ago) link
Is that true? I seem to remember Melody Maker & NME loving them.
― Paulo, Sunday, 14 March 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link
― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Sunday, 14 March 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
the posies, on the other hand, are worth searching for their don fleming-produced "frosting on the beater" album. they weren't exactly a grunge band either, but the wall-of-distorted-gtrs sound was clearly an attempt to jump on the grunge ship, and the first half of the album anyway is some pretty great pop.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 14 March 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 14 March 2004 16:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Rock Bastard, Sunday, 14 March 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Rock Bastard, Sunday, 14 March 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 March 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link
Urge Overkill and Weezer are gods among men.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 March 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago) link
-- Ned Raggett"
Exactly.
Do Mogwai count? 'Cause I have to tell you, Like Herod owns anything any grunge band ever produced.
― Stupid (Stupid), Sunday, 14 March 2004 18:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Stupid (Stupid), Sunday, 14 March 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 18:45 (twenty years ago) link
If anything, "Grunge" sounds like Redd Kross, not the other way around.
http://www.rockometer.com/photos/reddkross.gif
Redd Kross in 1987!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 March 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago) link
― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Sunday, 14 March 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 March 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Rodney X, Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:04 (twenty years ago) link
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link
^ rules
― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
I wouldn't call Mudhoney "post-grunge", being that they're the definite article to the bone.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:34 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:46 (twenty years ago) link
― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
Wow, I thought I had idee fixes. (That said, Chuck's talk on Nirvana in Accidental History is some great stuff.) The great alternate history of our time: Andrew Wood never dies, Mother Love Bone continues to one extent or another and Eddie Vedder + Pearl Jam music never becomes famous. Result?
ever listened to their debut?
Yes, unfortunately. That was a mistake.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:53 (twenty years ago) link
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:54 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:56 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 02:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 02:46 (twenty years ago) link
Mr. Eddy is on the money! (I sold back all my Placemats Sire-era albums some months back when I realized very clearly I was never going to listen to them again -- ever).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 02:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 02:54 (twenty years ago) link
Fuck, even Johnny Bon Rzeznizkz would think you guys have lost it!
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 02:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 02:58 (twenty years ago) link
Prime Bon Jovi kills the Goo Goo Dolls WTF? Mike, do you rate Third Eye Blind on an album/home listening basis? I have Blue. I did defend it on here at one point and had a number of perfectly pleasant listens to it, but I have absolutely no need to hear any of it ever again. I haven't for at least a year and half probably.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 03:21 (twenty years ago) link
No no, it's perfectly logical.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 03:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 03:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 03:30 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 03:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago) link
This passion is fantastic.
But getting back to the question, American post-grunge was irreversably crippled by the likes of the fucking Presidents of the United States of America and, to a lesser extent, Everclear. Throw in Cake as well. I can't believe these poxy bands haven't been mentioned yet after a whole day of nostalgia, but there you go.
― Stephen Stockwell (Stephen Stockwell), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 07:37 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 11:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Rambo, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link
Actually, Apex Theory's album and EP are both really good.
And "Youth of the Nation" by P.O.D. is a fine single.
― chuck, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 15:52 (twenty years ago) link
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), March 14th, 2004.
God Machine and genius are words that do not belong in the same sentance. No they weren't grunge at all, just depressed.
― bluemoon, Saturday, 24 July 2004 12:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 24 July 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago) link
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 25 July 2004 04:25 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 July 2004 05:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
Anyone else like the first two Fun Lovin' Criminals albums?
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 31 August 2008 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Of all the bands that were inexplicably popular in the UK but unknown in the US, surely they were the worst.
― Neil S, Monday, 1 September 2008 11:48 (sixteen years ago) link
But they are least partly responsible for a decent pizzeria in Dublin.
― MacDara, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Bizarre thread. Folks were labeling all kinds of bands grunge.
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Just like radio stations/MTV/Music Mags back then
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 1 September 2008 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link
But I don't remember any radio stations calling Buffalo Tom, the Pooh Sticks, Redd Kross and the Goo Goo Dolls "post grunge."
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 1 September 2008 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Of course, I didn't listen to a ton of radio back then.
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 1 September 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link
over here in the uk spin doctors and lemonheads got called grunge on Radio 1 and Top Of The Pops :D
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 1 September 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
btw that Dig album mentioned way upthread was good. Did they make another?
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 1 September 2008 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
In fact im gonna listen to that Dig album today
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I've never heard a radio station call anything "post grunge".
S: Molly" and "Plowed" by Sponge. "Wish You Were Here" and "Drive" by I.N.C.U.B.U.S. All of Foo Fighters singles. All of Bush's singles. The one about Superman by Three Doors Down. The Chad Kroeger song from the Spiderman soundtrack.
D: Anything else Chad Kroeger has ever done. Creed. Staind.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 12:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I did a search for Bullet Lavolta and they came up in this thread which is amusing because if anything, the Boston band was about two years ahead of it's time, but those were a crucial 24 months.
One of the CDs I picked up yesterday on my first excursion to a local record store in ages is a live-plus-odds-and-sods Bullet LaVolta release that came out, apparently posthumously, on Matador Records in 1991 awesomely entitled "The Gun Didn't Know I Was Loaded." Although it's a very rough, bass-heavy recording done at the time on the air of Boston college juggernaut WERS 88.9FM (and recorded over a similar live session by The Pixies, according to the liner notes!), it reminds me of when I first moved back to New York in 1989 because the band played out there quite a bit at that point. They were also one of my earlier interviews, though I cannot recall for whom. They had a singer named Yukki (pronounced Yucky). They rocked unpretentiously and righteously.
This song was always a favorite of mine and it leads off this album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6Ldl9BByQ
To be sure, a track this heavy and instilled with punk attitude (and sure, grungy, if you insist) was an anomaly in the world of major labels BC (Before Cobain) yet RCA Records bought the rights to an early TAANG! album and Metal Blade EP, reissuing them together, and even coughed up the funds to record the prophetically-titled "Swandive" album. Released the same day as "Nevermind," it lacked the fire of the earlier material (but is well worth the $1.64 used on Amazon.com right now) and the band left us shortly thereafter.
But this disc rekindles memories of seeing the band back in the day as I made my first tentative steps living on my own in New York. Five bucks well spent.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 11 March 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
So many of the forgotten indie bands mentioned in this old thread I listen to now like they're the hot new thing.
― Evan, Friday, 13 January 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
for reasons i cannot explain, this revival has reminded me of this crew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9sH7AoRd14
― mark e, Friday, 13 January 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
I really wish the band Sponge didn’t suck because it’s such a great 90s dirtbag/grunge band name .
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 13 January 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link