NIN -- _Year Zero

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"year zero"

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of want an album full of stuff like "The Only Time" (which might be why I liked The Fragile so much).

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/images/stories/exposed/Trent%20NIN/reznor_middle.jpg

― chocolatepiekid (chocolatepiekid), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

also, as i have never given two shits about lyrics in music, i vote thumbs up for nine inch nails

p.s.

"Shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot
I'm gonna to come all over you"

c'mon guys. c'mon.

― chocolatepiekid (chocolatepiekid), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

foxy

***

But back to Trayce (and Ned, though you didn't ask):

My primary objection to NIN is aesthetic. I don't like the overall style template. It seems clunky and obvious. Like bad shoes. I don't relate to the basic view of life on display. Not 'cuz it's goth (though NIN have a lot in common with textbook goth shit, that's not a problem -- I like a lot of textbook goth shit), but 'cuz it seems silly and even embarrassing.

I'm not pnly talking about the tunes + sonics, which are often fine, sometimes truly great. I'm talking about the organizing sensibility behind it all. See, some folks insist that music is just MUSIC: tunes + sonics alone. But for me, anyway, there's more to it than that. There are less tangible levels of appeal and interaction.

I mean, think about painting. Some people are really into Dungeons & Dragons collector's plates, fine products of the Franklin Mint. I'm not. I think they're ludicrous, tasteless garbage, and I don't want 'em in my house.

"But," the dedicated collector says, "look at the brushwork. Look at the craftsmanship. Observe the look of steely determination and doomed nobility on this Dwarf Cleric's face. Look at the richness and depth of the steam clouds billowing up from Helm's Deep."

And I look. And I have to recognize. The painting is fucking fantastic. The translucent beauty of the light, the weighty planes of stone, steel and flesh. It's dazzling. But I still hate it. It's still a D&D collector's plate. It's still ludicrous, tasteless garbage, and I still don't want it in my house.

Now, I don't hate NIN that much. They're okay, I guess. But they ain't my cuppa tea.

― Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Some people are really into Dungeons & Dragons collector's plates, fine products of the Franklin Mint. I'm not. I think they're ludicrous, tasteless garbage, and I don't want 'em in my house.

Yeah, but they're not being uploaded onto iPods either.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

They're not? Damn, somebody needs to get on top of that shit, like yesterday.

― Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know if I'm ROFFLing or BOGGLing.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel your pain.

― Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

You are remarkably self-aware.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

FULL CIRCLE

http://home.earthlink.net/~selgart/smith/graphics/adric.JPG

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't decide whether or not I'm excited about this album, though With Teeth def. had its moments and outclassed The Fragile.

Has anyone written an in-depth, unauthorized bio of this band yet? Cuz I'd love to see ex-NINnies dish on the power dynamics/behind-the-scenes stuff.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah put me down in the hating "Only" category, too (all those talky verses, god -- "less concerned with fitting into the world -- YOUR WORLD, THAT IS"). I probably would've checked out With Teeth if Trent talking up hipster shit like DFA and M.I.A. hadn't scared me off.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I really really want to hear NIN cover "10 Dollar."

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

More to anticipate!

― Ivan G (Ivan), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds good from here. I'll keep an eye out for the tortured souls this weekend.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Reznor said that most of the album was recorded "in hotel rooms around the world on laptops," with very few musicians beside himself and "maybe some surprise vocalists that pop up here and there."

Is he MOBY?

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://maggiebear.com/trentgallery15/trent715tx.JPG

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone written an in-depth, unauthorized bio of this band yet? Cuz I'd love to see ex-NINnies dish on the power dynamics/behind-the-scenes stuff.

-- Raymond Cummings (gracefulas...), January 16th, 2007.

"When i joined nine inch nails, i had no idea that it was trent reznor who really ran the show"

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

20 GOTO 10
RUN

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone hear the radio sessions from last year where Trent and members of bands opening for NIN would cover each other's songs plus some of their shared favorites? There were a few questionable ones (Reznor singing TV On the Radio songs?) but some decent ones too (Peter Murphy singing Reptile!). I'd wonder if some of these guest vocalists are just tourmates.

― mh. (mike h.), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Reznor singing TV On the Radio songs?

Oh dear.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

NIN, TVOTR and Bauhaus:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nin+bauhaus&search=Search

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

...I think I'll pass.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Has the time come for the fabled collaboration with Robert Smith?

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 08:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i want to see reznor and bowie perform the macarena, complete with dance. and then for trent to embrace his 80's past by recording an album of new romantic covers.

sadly tho...

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 1 February 2007 08:31 (seventeen years ago) link

We haven't heard the new one yet, anything is possible.

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 1 February 2007 10:15 (seventeen years ago) link

April 17th (http://www.nin.com/current/index.html) and track two is called:

http://yearzero.nin.com/

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 5 February 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, reznorpaws!

― The Reverend Rodney J. Greene (R. J. Greene), Monday, 5 February 2007 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So when will a fourth song leak?

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 February 2007 05:36 (seventeen years ago) link

(Peter Murphy singing Reptile!)

:o

― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 24 February 2007 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Well he already got Bowie to sing that, so there ya go.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 February 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

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― Ivan, Saturday, 24 February 2007 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Wtf.

Cover art: http://yearzero.nin.com/0024/yearzero_cover.jpg

Track list and teaser video: http://yearzero.nin.com/

― Ivan, Saturday, 24 February 2007 05:57 (seventeen years ago) link

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― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 February 2007 06:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the nerdy (but pretty neat-o) way they're marketing this album:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/02/22/year-zero-project-way-cooler-than-lost/

― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 February 2007 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The illegal link stuff is when you include punctuation marks in the text you want to cover the URL itself in the final text -- just stick with basic characters!

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 February 2007 07:01 (seventeen years ago) link

http://yearzero.nin.com/0024/yearzero_cover.jpg

Rolling Stone story

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 February 2007 07:02 (seventeen years ago) link

[/]Growth in lyrics = overrated. [i/]

Ned OTM muchly.

― i, grey, Saturday, 24 February 2007 07:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The sign which quickly passes by in the video clip reads 'I Am Trying to Believe,' which is the phrase that kicked off this whole thing to start with.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 February 2007 07:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Guest vocalist on "Survivalism" according to this -- Saul Williams.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Growth in lyrics = overrated.

Ned Raggett (Ned) on Monday, 15 January 2007 04:46 (1 month ago)

i pretty much agree with this, but i find it easier to take with artists like ac/dc or the ramones or too short or whoever, where the general vibe is a sort of winking bonhomie...NIN are so damn serious and dire, i guess sometime i wish he'd actually deliver on something more, since there's a very "this is an important statement" vibe going on with the whole thing.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Good point, actually. Does pop (which I'd argue all the other counterexamples are, easily) allow for non-growth only when it's delivered with an overt or clear humor?

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i don't know...that's just how i feel instinctively, i'm not sure it SHOULD be right...it's probably just like anything, we tend to identify with people that seem more like "regular folks" and are more inclined to give them a "pass" as it were, just because we/I don't feel like they are holding themselves up above us/me as a "artist" or whatever....

haha i guess i'm "voting" for too short and ac/dc cuz like people who voted for bush because they'd "rather go out for a beer with him"?

― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I've come to realise over the years that it's sometimes only possible for me to enjoy an artist's work if I never read anything about them or hear anything that they say. But that's easy enough, and why not?

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Realizing that liking someone's music != having to think positively of them personally if the evidence suggested otherwise was a key step for me when younger. That said, most of the musicians I have met are all pretty swell!

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

man i'd love to be friends with too short! another one of my dreams that will go unrealized.

Realizing that liking someone's music != having to think positively of them personally if the evidence suggested otherwise was a key step for me when younger.

yep.

i think i made this too "personal" sounding actually, there's more to it than just personalities. i can't really express my point too well, i guess.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Generally it's not that I think they're not decent human beings. I just think a lot of artists aren't the best judges of their own work.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

More thoughts on this later, gotta dash to a birthday party!

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

New song "leaked".

In This Twilight

― Ivan, Monday, 26 February 2007 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

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NIN -- _Year Zero_