In retrospect, Eminem kind of sucks right?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhfTl43ZV-I

and what, Friday, 18 July 2008 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ big lolz back when this dropped

and what, Friday, 18 July 2008 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

clean up your room, marshall
http://www.marksimpson.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/eminem2r2ck.jpg

Granny Dainger, Friday, 18 July 2008 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

what a shitty track

Granny Dainger, Friday, 18 July 2008 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

wil the real slim shaddy please stand up

burt_stanton, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HxiAamcHa8

even though he bit this verse from royce i still fux w/it

and what, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moMAorIEGXY

yall cant see me like ma$es eyebrows

and what, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link

classic underground ish with masta ace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdS4ln9N3vs

and what, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link

When he's talking serious shit his flow tends to get stuck in this monotone rut that is far less interesting than his surreal, D-12ish stuff, which has a more fluid, free style to it (both in terms of flow and in wordplay/content). As his career went on he got more into the former and that got boring real quick for me. Those first two albums are classic though.

adamj, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm with John and Hoos, he wasn't really for everyone but you have to give him credit for being a really talented and creative rapper. Comparing him to Fred Durst is lunacy.

adamj, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:08 (fifteen years ago) link

At what, 10 years old (?), I really loved "My Name Is" because it was super catchy. I liked it again in junior high because I thought the lyrics were funny. I stopped listening to Eminem until now, at 18, and it turns out I adore it even more because a) it is catchy, b) the lyrics are funny and c) jesus christ, it's twisted. i always wrote the song off as a clever list of celebrity jabs, but then when i start paying attention to lines like "99 percent of my life i was lied to" it finally hits me that this guy is actually a much more complex person than i ever gave him credit for...Really interesting rapper!

Tape Store, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

You were 10 years old when that came out? I'm ancient. I remember selling blank CDs in highschool of Eminem's Marshal Mathers whatever in 2000 when I found it on some mp3 FTP site (this was just a little before Napster, that's how you did it... all on a modem). People paid me $20 for that crap; people also had no idea what blank CDs were.

burt_stanton, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:14 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ people arguing about Eminem in 2008

The Reverend, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

if you guys think he's just talking about michael and britney you're not listening close enough. and even when he's talking about michael and britney, he's sometimes talking about talking about michael and britney.

gabbneb, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Finally, an ILMer that is younger than me!

Cunga, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll say OTM to those repping for Eminems guest spots being (mostly) superior to his solo stuff - not so much for the D12 records as, say, "Renegade" or the 2001 tracks. His flow and lyrical abilities, outstanding as they are, are more palatably digested in limited quantites. That nasal timbre can wreak havoc on the ears after a while.

Pillbox, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Rev let us nostalgicate in peace.

adamj, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:28 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhfTl43ZV-I

^^^ this is way more my shit than any of the singles I heard

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:30 (fifteen years ago) link

wait Cunga how old are you??? I did not know you were younger than me

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:31 (fifteen years ago) link

It's official Eminem is working on a new album.

It's been nearly four years since Em's latest studio album, Encore, but fans can now have something to look forward too. Dr. Dre's new protégé, Bishop Lamont, recently said the Eminem drought is almost over.

"Em is excited," Lamont told Entertainment Weekly. "He's been quiet too long, and he's got a lot to get off his chest."

While there is no release date just yet, the rapper's label confirmed that Eminem is back in the studio working on his next solo project.

Since the tragic death of his best friend and fellow rapper Proof, the 35-year-old rapper has been dealing with the grief and in the process has been MIA from the music scene.

However, Lamont says this new album will alleviate all that stress. "He went through what he had to go through, and now he's been able to take all the pain and stress and put it out in his music."

Stay tuned for further details.

velko, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:34 (fifteen years ago) link

you 35 and you still rappin? UHHHHH

The Brainwasher, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Rev let us nostalgicate in peace.

-- adamj, Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:28 PM (Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:28 PM) Bookmark Link

ha I did bump renegade after seeing this thread tho

The Reverend, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:40 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i1u8nyb7eE

J@cob, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link

ha I did bump renegade after seeing this thread tho

-- The Reverend, Friday, July 18, 2008 5:40 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

for real

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

he's destined to be the cyndi lauper of the early 21st century

m coleman, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Best Eminem verse post-98 is on the "Lean Back" remix. Dude still sucks though.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link

looking at his list of UK singles now. first half is pretty unfuckwithable, second half is terrible.

blueski, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link

15 consecutive top 8 hits tho

blueski, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link

no one posted 'any man'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRR4atZvnY0

deej, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i always kinda liked this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpSBcpj2-PY

this thread is making me nostalgic ;_; i feel old

deej, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not that he sucks, it's just that that Nu-Metal, Frat-Rap, American Pie, Tom Green, stupid white American grossout thing got old very fast and really it was he who broke the camels back - more to overexposure than anything else. Listening to Eminem sucks right now because he's too recent in our minds, but in ten years time people are going to be totally on this stuff and "My Name Is.." and "The Real Slim Shady" will be revived as awesome party anthems. It's just the natural retro curve doing its thing.

the next grozart, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

You know, it's been a while since we've had a pop pariah out there, bringing about society's downfall. My Chemical Romance as suicidal inspiration just doesn't cut it. WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF DESTROYING THE CHILDREN!

bendy, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Unlikely because then they wouldn't be able to give away their new album free with the Mail On Sunday.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

They could give away Snakes on a Plane! instead.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:30 (fifteen years ago) link

man I worked with troubled kids during Eminem's rise & high water days and I never saw anything like the bond his shit had with those kids

fuck hating on "kids' stuff," go listen to Yes

J0hn D., Friday, 18 July 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

The hype was super-annoying & off-putting at the time, but he made a bunch of singles that sounded great cranked up in the car, so he def. did NOT suck!

Weird how long ago it seems now.

Pashmina, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link

At first I thought Eminem was a kind of flash-in-the-pan joke rapper, like Humpty Hump or Paul Barman, and it turns out that he was exactly that, except completely brilliant (if a little repetitive).

"Purple Pills" is my favorite to crank up in the car.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link

What do you mean 'in retrospect', he has always been shit. Plus he's shockingly the one rapper I can think of that sticks to all the rap stereotypes (aside from the half nekkid girls in the vid...ish) the violence, misogyny, homophobia...EVERYTHING.
I liked Purple Hills and Stan was really high concept.
They could give away Snakes on a Plane! instead.
I totally agree

VeronaInTheClub, Friday, 18 July 2008 11:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i feel that the title of this thread is disingenuous

s1ocki, Friday, 18 July 2008 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link

where's the "in retrospect" with a bunch of ppl who didn't like him in the first place insulting dude

s1ocki, Friday, 18 July 2008 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link

You were 10 years old when that came out? I'm ancient. I remember selling blank CDs in highschool of Eminem's Marshal Mathers whatever in 2000 when I found it on some mp3 FTP site (this was just a little before Napster, that's how you did it... all on a modem). People paid me $20 for that crap; people also had no idea what blank CDs were.

Wanna work on your timetable a little bit? Napster was most definitely up, running, and quite popular before the summer of 2000 when Marshall Mathers LP dropped.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 18 July 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link

lol burt_stanton was out of the loop

deej, Friday, 18 July 2008 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link

When he's talking serious shit his flow tends to get stuck in this monotone rut that is far less interesting than his surreal, D-12ish stuff, which has a more fluid, free style to it (both in terms of flow and in wordplay/content). As his career went on he got more into the former and that got boring real quick for me. Those first two albums are classic though.

Damn, does this ever sum up my feelings about Em's career.

For me it was all downhill after SS LP, which remains a deranged, magical masterpiece (and always will be thus). Then MM LP dropped and it was still pretty stellar but he was getting SERIOUS (post-backlash defensiveness I guess) and so less fun, more bristling. Then EM SHOW came out. I totally hate that record save maybe "White America" and :"Business" and maybe one other song. Never listen to it because it's so dire and crossover and whatever, it's where Middle America at Large got behind Shady like "hey, this guy's not so terrible after all, maybe it's okay for lil Erica and Eric to listen to him, etc." (I mean, just thinking about that album right now's getting me mad) ENCORE was a total mess but it's my second favorite Em album because it's him not giving half a fuck (the majority) while at the same time really giving one ("Mosh").

Hopefully he comes back strong with some new subject matter - I'm seriously sick of hearing about his family and how critics hate him, etc. I wish he'd rap about his more recent problems with the same trippy acidity of yore, you know?

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 18 July 2008 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link

loved eminem back then but he was very much of his time i guess, i don't think i've actively wanted to listen to one of his songs in years. it's embarrassing that he was my gateway to hip-hop, once i really got to know the genre i think i realised he wasn't all that special in its context.

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2008 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link

wonder which borad that'll be quoted on

blueski, Friday, 18 July 2008 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

none

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I wouldn't think that would be embarrassing at all! Dude was a huge crossover success; there are going to be a ton of people who found their way into hi-hop via him.

HI DERE, Friday, 18 July 2008 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i know, it's just a bit of a cliché, plus it's still lame that hip-hop's biggest crossover success (in the uk at least) had to come with the white dude who may as well have been rock half the time.

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2008 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link


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