nstead hes subtly & quietly doing a whole bunch of shit w/ his music that i havent heard an artist do before
Really? Like what?
― the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
should say "fleeing to disco" not feeling
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
trying to decide what's a worse name - Arch Cupcake or Porcupine Tree
― sarahel, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^totally feelin deej on dubstep, I gotta say. I hate that whole forced "music must move FORWARD" narrative. load of bullshit.
― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I AM FEELING TO DISCO TONITE, MY SWEET FOXES...
― Comfort Me With Apples (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
the band is called "fleet foxes" jon
― Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
were rock stans this belligerent when the genre was 25 years old and people didn't think it was still some radical new force for shakin up the charts and started lookin around for other shit to get excited about?
wait lol don't answer that
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:02 PM (39 minutes ago)
nah
http://dkpresents.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/2503394061_e13334a22a_o.jpg
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
was my "don't answer that" joak at the end of the post there really so opaque
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
altho dude that marco polo / torae album is super dry
ah man it's nothin' new for sure, but that shits like pizza to me. just what i want sometimes you know?
― the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:39 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i mean...i'm not near as big on him, but i think deej is right in a way, he's definitely...eccentric i guess seems like the right word...like his words and flow is eccentric in a way that's not instantly going to hit you like "weird" like a doom or kool keith but IS really weird in a way...but you gotta kinda dig to hear it.
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Dubstep is probably the most backward looking "continuum" genre ever though. It's a new genre name, but anyone pretending its anything outside a refinement of existing genres is fooling themselves.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i read that as "deej please don't bring gucci into this" :(
xxp
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
"(i.e. is anyone gonna pretend that the concept of Burial doing ghostly versions of two step is a concept deserving of more than a couple songs?)"
1) this is a pretty vast oversimplication of Burial and 2) you could make the claim that virtually nothing is conceptually deserving of more than a couple of songs.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
― the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:39 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol @ this turning into deej on gucci again but:
hes sorta found a way out that balances the whole 'character' narrative of southern/gangsta rap with lyricism, basically becoming like this venn diagram intersection for ppl who want rappers lyrical & ppl who want rappers gangster & ppl who want rappers-playing-interesting-characters, hes come up with a way to adapt to an era where an artist needs to release lots & lots of music & his audience expects it for free, by setting up maybe fifty to a hundred individual ideas & basically mix-and-matching variations on each as he freestyles much of his lyrics, so each song is fresh because hes doing a totally new flip of a joke he already made. hes also really good at coming up w/ evocative images for these jokes. (the one i always talk about is his drop top/missing roof jokes: "panoramic roof clearer than a cup of water" "eazy e drop top call the car roofless" ((eazy e was with ruthless records, get it??)) & then just combines them in different orders, making new jokes, i.e. combing gucci concept of 'killing the parking lot' w/ aforementioned missing roofs: "got a murda one, i just killed the parkin lot / decapitated bmw, i cut off the top"& he does this all w/in a framework of being entertaining, un-intellectualized regular southern pot-bellied backwoods character w/ a sense of humor & really good taste in beats
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:44 PM (17 seconds ago)
i'm a gucci fan but havent put nearly as much thought into him as, say, deej or sarge. i don't think you have to get all masters thesis to get to the point w/ him, which is that he's an excellent technical rapper & lyricist and great personality. it's that simple for me
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
what I hear you saying is "he is writing interesting rhymes w/in an interesting persona" which, good on him, but it doesn't sound like he's breaking down any doors the way these radical dubstep pioneers are every night tbh
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
lol @ this circling back to gucci mane but it's actually pertinent to the discussion of the sasha frere jones article that is being discussed itt.
― brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
lol what doors are these j0hn d.
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i'm just saying though cuzza his voice and style it's not like ppl are going to instantly notice "hey he's saying really weird/funny/cool punchlines" the way that like MF Doom really says HEY CRITICS LOOK AT ME I AM A WEIRDO IN A MASK you know?
like i'm sure you could just hear it and have it pass by you like another club rap song and not notice that shit
(i love doom btw)
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
deej if that doesn't parse instantly as elbowing deej in ribs I don't know what I'm doin wrong
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Apparently not elbowing him hard enough.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
burial may have only played to a hundred stoned hippies in hoodies but all of those stoned hippies went home and started dubstep message boards
― Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
if louis was alive i bet he'd make a dubstep remix of Elbow
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP LJ ;_;
― Comfort Me With Apples (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
gucci mane: big and rich for '09?
― access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahahahahahahahahaha omar
― the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
doom is great
― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh tho, SFJ was on the lil wayne bandwagon like a lot of people & it's pretty irresponsible for him to have recognized what wayne did and write the article that he did now w/o mentioning gucci mane
― brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Totally irresponsible.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Was there already a clusterfuck thread about the Doom article in the NYer?
― Comfort Me With Apples (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
what a disaster for responsibility
― access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess if u 'love the game' of indie re: omar's indie-nfl parallel then yah gucci could be yr big n rich
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:57 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
ha, well. if you're gonna write an article about the state of the rap game!!
― brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
"...gangsta rap's "are you ready for some football?" has finally arrived"- GQ Magazine
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
http://resources.mygen.co.uk/contacttables/BigandRich2.jpg
― access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
bigucci & rich
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
If you don't appreciate advanced chord changes, you have no taste in music. Stop making fun of this guy because he has more taste than you.
Sondre Lerche is amazing, btw, but his first two albums were his best, and he hasn't managed to follow them. Partly because the production has been too "rough" on the followers. The first two were more polished-sounding, which suited him better.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
...
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link
lol geir droppin' the lerche bomb
this shit is on like donkey kong
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
A) I too miss hip-hop’s blues-based swing.B) I really like the myers article, and am pretty sure that for the most part formal innovation lost its way sometime in the last 20-30 years or so.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
dunno if there's been a thread. I didn't even read that thing, I was surprised they published that piece after SFJ wrote a big Madvillainy article not that long ago.
― dmr, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Geir I hate to break this to you but there's no such thing as an "advanced chord change"
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty sure the bard class was able to play an "advanced chord change" once it got to 12th level.
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― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link
saving throw against Gm7b5
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i've been aug'n all my chords lately, shit sounds so smart
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
but then i might just throw in a diminished, keep it fresh you know?
my thing on piano right now is anchoring the chord on the 6 - instant fake bill evans
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i like to use a sus4, really give it that BREAKING NEWS feel
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man I am seriously feeling that, like to add the sus4 passing from tonic to either 4 or minor 6th
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
woah bust the scientifical j0hn, i'm feelin' that shit.
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i know this is like 100 posts ago but its only been an hour and i just wanted to drop an appreciative "lol"
― samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link