Geir Hongro - Classic or Dud?

I don't see where the crypto-racist stuff is. He doesn't dislike melodic music that happens to be made by black people, so it is clearly solely to do with aesthetic taste, no?

also, he got his own classic or dud thread - respect!

I don't see where the crypto-racist stuff is. He doesn't dislike melodic music that happens to be made by black people, so it is clearly solely to do with aesthetic taste, no?

How long have you been here?

Ha. The Rhythm Nation video is Geir's nightmare dystopia: 1984, only with funky black people in charge and anyone who likes advanced chord changes is imprisoned for thoughtcrime.

^^^^

Surely if Geir was actually as crypto-racist as some posts seem to suggest he would have been Suggest Banned by now?

I could do with less polls though

Not everyone believes in Suggest Banning. I certainly don't.

And Suggest Banning hasn't always existed!

I'd concede there's occasionally a somewhat demonic fervour when he's engaged in his grand theorising about music, but this never really spills over into any substantive racism.

shall we go into his "african cultures don't have a word to differentiate between music and dance, ergo they must be lower lifeforms than mozart" argument again?

Oh really? Not even his comments about sub-Saharan Africans having no word for or concept of music, only of "dancing"? That isn't crypto-racist, it's racist. And, of course, there's no retraction or apologia forthcoming if anyone complains about it because, frankly, that is what he believes - except he doesn't even "believe" it, IT IS TRUE.

xpost!

lollll

Well it's the one that pushed me over the edge

I'd need chapter and verse quotation.

I was prepared to accept him as a hapless weirdo hung up on melodic music in the Western tradition, to the exclusion of all else, until that

i'd need a sedative after looking through all those ridiculous theories to find the right quote! (xp)

LOL

So melodic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozu8KGFH-CU

Uggggggggggghhhhhh God. Give it to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53gY7BjNkpc

I can't find the original quote but here is some nasty person (I think it was me) bullying poor little Geir in to one of his usual considered responses:

... plus they didd't actually have a word for music in Africa until the white man showed up, eh Geir?

Which was rather obvious because they didn't have music, just dancing. Note that this only goes for a limited Geographic part of Africa. Northern Africa certainly had music, and they also had a word for it.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 09:39 (4 years ago) Bookmark

Ha ha, I found one I hadn't seen before!

West Africans used to know dancing but not music. They were introduced to music by the imperialists. The sounds they were making while dancing was just a part of the dance, and had nothing to do with music really.

― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 21:21 (1 year ago) Bookmark

Complex music may only be made by an elite of people with considerably bigger musical talent than most people.

― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 21:49 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

(And such people will of course exist amongst Africans too, they need to be introduced to the actual craft at first though)

― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 21:49 (1 year ago) Bookmark

i've got a fuckin word for him

... ad nauseum. Which when put together with his apparently harmless trumpeting of the superiority of Western Music, begins to seem a tiny bit sinister

makes me want to put 'acid trax' on a loop and dance around for hours

But of course, he states as political views as being broadly furry left-liberal, doesn't he?

He doesn't have any political views that I can make out, I don't really care about that anyway

Okay enough of this. You want to call him out on this, try it on a thread when he's actually around.