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William, you're going to have such a great time... Trust me.

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Hugo is more overweight than he should be. But that’s his personal choice.

hahaha

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't stop his drumming from being A+ tight. Lots of people in the audience were shouting "HUUUUUUUUUGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" last night.

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

oh my fucking god!!!!! incredible!!!! highlights::the microwave beatings of king,the guitar destruction [litterally] of gill,the unbelievably tight playing of burnham/allen. how they never stopped moving/roaming about the stage. having seen both the slint reunion and now the GoF reunion,tough as it is for me to chose which was better ,i would have to say the GoF! do not miss this if you can get to a show!!!

william (william), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Newsflash-Gang of Four don't like Radio 4 so much

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

haha, are you going to spill the beans and tell the people why, Ms. Timmons?

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link

What I want to know is are they using a different microwave each time? Did it start out with the front door attached, William?

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Did it start out with the front door attached, William?

...yup...it was white with a black front door. jon king used a short baseball bat type club to utterly destroy it. again...i can't urge people enough to catch them should they play your town in the next two weeks. i was really surprised the commodore ballroom was not more than 75% full.

william (william), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:01 (nineteen years ago) link

We saw some people walking out with the demolished microwave after the show Friday night.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:07 (nineteen years ago) link

A black front!! You're kidding! Ours started out with a white front and white body! Although to be honest it was already about to fall apart before he started banging on it.

Did he start banging on it while it was on a platform of some kind and then continued to bang on it as it fell on the floor of the stage? What happened to the microwave on your end? I recall a roadie also conveniently moving the microphone closer when it fell on the floor.

xpost - brilliant! A destroyed microwave from Gang of 4! Next trend in music will be...toaster ovens on stage!

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:10 (nineteen years ago) link

King told KEXP on Friday that on one tour stop, the promoter didn't get a microwave. Instead, there was a walk-in fridge -- I swear I heard this right.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Next trend in music will be: have your lead singer sing vocals from inside a walk-in freezer.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Ahead of their time again!

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:10 (nineteen years ago) link

King told KEXP on Friday that on one tour stop, the promoter didn't get a microwave. Instead, there was a walk-in fridge -- I swear I heard this right.
I thought I heard that, too!

That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link

the microwave's glass was taped too, to prevent it from breaking. hahah i cant believe they're doing that at multiple shows! classic

jake b. (cerybut), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that Ian Dury were a lot better at combining new wave with disco than Gang Of Four ever were. Also, !!! are currently better than GoF at what GoF were doing back then.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Geir, have you found anyone else who agrees with you? I think most would differ with your take.

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, !!! have a lot more to do with later Pop Group, Pigbag, Grace Cale's Dubset, and the funkier moments of 23 Skidoo than they do with Gang Of Four... the !!!/Go4 comparison is a puzzling one, Geir...

(You can like !!! better if you wish, though.. no one's going to stop you there)

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Ian Dury--the music-hall influence on GO4 to be elaborated upon further, I'm sure...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I think we're forgetting about PUNISHMENT OF LUXURY in this whole equation!

(They were a really weird disco-punk band in that they fully integrated a Syd Barrett/"Nuggets" Acid Bubblegum element to their post-punk-disco that was pretty genius.)

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

The music hall influence is the exact reason why Ian Dury was better.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I probably like Ian Dury a shade better than Go4 but it's a really weird comparison, it's not like they have a hell of a lot in common

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a broken microwave if Go4 wants to use it. It'd be an honour. Unfortunately, the closest they're getting to my city is Washington, D.C., and that's about a 15-hour drive away. Why no Atlanta date?

That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

x-post.

"Hit Me with Your Rhythm Stick" and "I Love A Man in Uniform" musically are sorta in the same ballpark. I like 'em both.

I like Ian and the G04 but for the most part, it's kinda apples and oranges. I'll take Entertainment over New Boots, if I haveta choose.

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I probably like Ian Dury a shade better than Go4 but it's a really weird comparison, it's not like they have a hell of a lot in common

What they do have in common is they mixed new wave and disco. Although Ian Dury's music hall/pubrock was of course a different kind of new wave from GoF's postpunk.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 9 May 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link

What Ian song should GO4 cover?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link

"Wake Up and Make Love Like Anthrax With Me"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry I asked.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

but where is the love for Blue Rondo a la Turk, goddammit?

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link

"Morley and Mr. Sanchez"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw a geezer from Gang of 4 talking with Reynolds et al the other week. He was rubbish.

I think I have not heard their music for years, but I have a feeling it is rubbish, also.

the bluefox, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

well you are wrong!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

What's the definition of geezer?

peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Was there mention of a kiosk?

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Mpls show semi-wrecky but I'm not sorry I went, despite the vile Quest and CC promotion. The microwave was on a flimsy stand which fell over. Gill checked his cell phone messages. "At Home He's A Tourist" was dedicated to "BROOOOCE." "Gluttons for punishment, are you?" inquired J. King re requests for an encore. Afterwards, overheard young fans remark disapprovingly on what they described as King's "cock rock" moves. What can I say -- one person's "cock rock moves" are another's ultra-spaz charisma. Hugo and Dave were excellent. Middle-aged people be getting PAID. "Some are insane and they're in charge." Yeah.

box of socks, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Going tonight with a small caravan of friends. Is it worth it toput in a concentrated effort to make it on time to see Radio 4? I know that the GangofFourers have made it public about their dislike for Radio 4, but I'm not sure if that's meant personally, or musically.

peepee (peepee), Friday, 13 May 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Check out Menomona if you're going to check out any band. They weren't really my thing, but at least they liked what they were doing, and had it down.

Radio 4 looked like the fucking Mighty Mighty Bosstones after weight loss and a class in Disco-Wave-Punk 101. (Sorry to the Radio 4 lovers.) They're not terrible live, but I'd punch their mugs if I had to deal with them in a bar or, oh say, a dressing room.

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

well, i GUESS you should also see the headlining band too. sigh. (haha. minor details, sorry.)

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

They're not terrible live

Not quite praise there, is it?

peepee (peepee), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

THEY WERE REALLY GOOD, weren't they, box of socks? i thought the mix was a little tamed, gill's guitar wasn't doing the sparks-of-the-subway-rails thing i was hoping for. but other than that, i was really impressed, and touched actually! everyone knew all the words! "you said you're cheap YOU COST TOO MUCH" pogo pogo pogo

i missed radio 4, thank god

g e o f f (gcannon), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Yep, it was great seeing them -- glad you had fun too, g e o f f. "Semi-wrecky" in my drunkpost above = they screwed up a couple of songs, Gill visibly annoyed; and yeah, the guitar sound wasn't quite as DESTROY as expected but still pretty fucking undeniable. Intentionally missed Radio 4 as well. I was in the front (stage right) thrashing like a mad thing (Rock Neck ahoy) so did not see much of the audience, but had a sense of restrained head-bobbing; good to know people were rocking. And they mentioned the poster of Sitting Bull as Land Lord that they sometimes used as backdrop in the old (pre-Clear Channel tour) days! "Touched," definitely -- it was an evening of (some of the) old-timey roots music encoded in my DNA, still powerful on its own merits. PLEASE SEND ME EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS.

box of socks, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

The sound at the quest blows.

Gang of Four I thought were pretty fantasic...a few flubs, but what energy and just the sense of "wow this is what the REAL THING looks/sounds like"

radio 4 can eat a bag of bongo dicks.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I still have Rock Neck!

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Friday, 13 May 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Notes about Gang of Four in Detroit, last night:

1/ Took everyone's advise and walked in just to see the last song by Radio 4. Not terrible live may be true, but seemed way too calculated and faux-earnest. Plus, it didn't help to have Ben Stiller fronting the band
2/ Reminded about how many great drum riffs Hugeo had (has)
3/ Shocked at the intensity of the Gang of Four. I've seen them now 6 times, and this may have been the best. Part of that is the minusing of Sara Lee and the addition of Dave Allen, but part was the abandonement of playing near the end of a tour that may be their last, FOREVER. They seemed older, and that sure hampered Jon's gyrating rhythm into the show, but he sure made up with it with sheer relentlessness.
4/ Little hints that there's still difficulty between them, esp. Andy and Jon.
5/ A bit surprised that Dave played with a pick. When I saw him with Shriekback, he was tremendous, and played without a pick. This time around, the bass sound was way too tinny and had little bottom.
6/ I expected there to be more youngsters there.
7/ I became more solid with the idea of reunions. After last night, and seeing Wire a couple of years ago, I imagined how great it'd be if the young wannabeez could sit at desks, watching these two aged bands play, and LEARN HOW TO DO IT RIGHT.
8/ Was surprised to heard something offa Shrinkwrapped.
9/ wtf, He'd Sent In The Army,? That was amazing!

Because of this thread, I'd expected greatness, and got it.

peepee (peepee), Saturday, 14 May 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link

7/ I became more solid with the idea of reunions. After last night, and seeing Wire a couple of years ago, I imagined how great it'd be if the young wannabeez could sit at desks, watching these two aged bands play, and LEARN HOW TO DO IT RIGHT.

If you didn't believe me, Ben Rayner said the same thing in this morning's Toronto Star.

peepee (peepee), Monday, 16 May 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Gang of Four tonight in DC......

"To Hell with Poverty" was the greatest live music moment I've ever been involved with.

Jesus fucking Christ.

Pardon my French.

Worth the 25 fucking dollars.

Goddamn.......my neck hurts.

PB, Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I admit, it's gratifying to hear that the old folks haven't become dinosaurs (except, apparently, in the Tyranosaurus Rex sense). Of all the greats, I've only seen David Thomas/Pere Ubu, and he hasn't gone soft. Further evidence that they weren't just the Rolling Stones in marxist-dadaist clothes. . .

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link

The DC show was great(see that other thread re GO4 in NY for more tour comments). I wonder if Matos saw the Seattle show? That should have turned him around on some of his postpunk doubts.

Steve K (Steve K), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Matos had post punk doubts? Since when?

Anyway, yes, he saw show..

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 21 May 2005 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Matos agrees w/ me:

"All that fell away with the set's final song, 1981's "To Hell With Poverty"; as they performed it, everyone in the room held their breath. It belongs to the handful of greatest single-song live performances I've ever seen."

PB, Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link


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