Rolling 2006 US Charts Thread

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That Crazytown track is gonna be remembered as one of the most "WTF? That was Number One?" hits ever.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Sunday, 19 February 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

"Peaked at number one" isn't always a good indication of popularity: something that peaks at 1 and then falls fast may not be as popular as something that has a slow build up to 5 and then hangs around forever; measuring popularity is hard, of course; as I said upthread, airplay can be affected by "negative" votes, whereas sales won't be, though of course sales will be affected by discretionary income of the prime audience, and airplay will be affected by what stations are trying to achieve and which listeners they value.

By the way, is "Since U Been Gone" generally perceived as a rock song? To me, the sound is overwhelmingly and obviously rock, but I get the feeling that many listeners simply won't count it as rock, because it's too melodic and too pop and because it's Kelly. Did it get much play on the rock stations? It's getting absolutely none right now on the active rock and alternative rock stations. Compare to System of a Down's "B.Y.O.B." which has also been around for a while and over the last week got 344 plays on alternative and 281 on active rock, putting it in 63rd place on alternative and 38th on active rock. "B.Y.O.B." got 1 play total on a CHR Pop station last week, while "Since U Been Gone" got 901 plays, placing it 57th. (These are of the stations reporting to Mediabase, that is.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 19 February 2006 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link

haha nevermind the last uptempo non-outkast rock #1 - what was the last #1 to peak (quickly - let's say less than a month after debut) and then fall fast (let's say out of the top 30 less than a month after its peak)(and obv multi-multiweek #1's, which is almost all #1's post what - 1990? - shouldn't count here). obv this has the potential to be a more common occurrence with dl factor, we may never see a year with only 5 #1's again, but it hasnt' described us singles charts (as opposed to album charts or uk singles chart) in awhile if ever. 'since u been gone' definitely counts as rock i think, i remember entertainment tonight doing as thing on it as kelly's 'rock move' and 'it's her yeah yeah yeahs song' was the immediate shorthand. i'm not sure if it ever got much play on rock stations - it's still an american idol winner, it's still a pop singer, and it's still a girl and rock radio's gonna be suspicious of all 3 of those (did avril ever get much rockplay btw?), 'bring me to life' definitely did (as did 'b.o.b.' and 'hey ya'). i never heard the rock version of 'since u been gone' on the atlanta pop station btw - they always went with the poptrance mix. haha by hanging around forever standards 'beverly hills' might be the biggest rock hit of the decade ye gods.

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 19 February 2006 06:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Fwiw, no Kelly or Avril song has been on either the Mainstream Rock or Modern Rock charts. "Maps" peaked at #9 on Modern Rock but didn't chart on mainstream rock.

Englebert Humperdinck Fan Club President (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 19 February 2006 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Blount, pretty much all of the American Idol hits have done that--both "I Believe" and "Inside Your Heaven" debuted at #1 and had fallen out of the top 30 by a month, six weeks tops.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 19 February 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Top 3 unchanged, Sean Paul clambers to 4, TashBed pluckily climbs back up to 9 at the expense of Jamie Foxx. Pink looks to be around for a bit, up 11 to 13, while THE INEXORABLE MARCH OF CASCADA continues at 16. Other big climbers are Busta (up 6 to 24) and Bubba (up 15 to 31). New in the 50 - Keith Urban at 45, Juvenile at 47, Gwen's 'Crash' at 49, PCD's Beep up 17 at 50, and - what's that at number 41? Is it... could it possibly be...

YOU HAVE POWTER, BITCHES! FEEL THE BURN OF THE SECOND COMING OF CRAP HAT!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link

And yet, TashBed has a similar hat on the picture that Billboard uses for 'Unwritten', and it seems to really suit her. Weird.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, I think I done confused it with:

.

Schoolboy error, really.

It does really suit her quite well, though.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 February 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

So I noticed in last week's Billboard that "Nasty Girl" by Notorious BIG and "Head Like a Hole" by 9 Inch Nails, two old songs, are in the top 25 on the "Hot Singles Sales" chart. The BIG one, I assume, is because of his post-humous duet album. But what's the NIN one about??

Also, Bon Jovi now have a top 20 country single, if nobody noticed.

xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I assume it's the duet with Jennifer Nettles?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, xhuxk, it looks like Rykodisc reissued the Head Like a Hole EP a couple weeks ago.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't like "Check On It" being on top for this long, but as long as it's doing the lord's work by keeping Blunt at #2 it can be #1 the whole year for all I care.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Ooh! Ooh! "Tell Me When To Go" at #99. My favorite song out right now!

I really didn't expect "Check On It" to have this much staying power, but yeah, ummm, James Blunt and stuff.

EngleDinckFanClubPres, Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

James Blunt @ #1 people.
First Brit since candle in the wind.
let's all have a party.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4764678.stm

danzig (danzig), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Bring back Laffy Taffy.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link

James Blunt = Weapon of Mass Destruction?

Invasion of Britain iminent?

A Licky Boom Boom Down (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

(a-one, two, three, four:)

BYE-BYE BLUNTY, BLUNTY GOODBYE... Yep, the king of blandcore has been dislodged after one week as Ne-Yo storms to the top from last week's 9, doing the Hot 100-Billboard 200 double. Rock music is reportedly 'miffed'. Elsewhere in the ten, no major waves - Sean Paul's slow clamber continues, up to 2 this week, and The Mighty Trance Warrior Queen that is Cascada is nudged out to 11 by Dem Franchise Boyz climbing to 'lucky' #9.

CRAP HAT ON THE MARCH - up 15 to this week's #14, with Bubba close behind at #15. Keyshia Cole's up 5 to #20, and there's some yo-yo-ing about down below, most notably with 'Rompe's eight-place climb to #31. New in the 50 this week: Sheryl Crow & Sting's 'I No Longer Want To Ride My Bicycle' is straight in at #35, and Rihanna's 'SOS', Kanye's 'Touch The Sky' and Kenny Chesney's 'Living In Fast Forward' occupy numbers 46 thru 48.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 March 2006 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

charts sucking recently. I need something to root for.

Worth noting, I guess, is that "So Sick" is the 6th #1 of the year so far. At this point last year, I think "Let Me Love You" was just finishing up its nine-week reign. So I guess that's a step forward of sorts.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Three of this week's top four are among my top five singles of the year so far. So I am unusually pleased with the current chart. And when Rihanna shoots to #1 with "SOS" like she deserves to, I'll be even happier. ("SOS" is my "1 Thing" for 2006, I suspect.)

Also loving the rapid turnover at the #1 position.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Sheryl Crow & Sting's 'I No Longer Want To Ride My Bicycle'

This is a real song?!?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Three of this week's top four are among my top five singles of the year so far.

this is a sad state of affairs, Joseph.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

This is a real song?!?

He's pulling your leg. The real title is "We Met In The Bordello".

A Licky Boom Boom Down (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i like the turnover basically too although the ne-yo is the first #1 that's felt like a 'real' #1 (ie. really really unavoidable) this year (i think 'laffy taffy' hit #1 about seven months after it peaked on atlanta radio). 'iilwas' looks to have peaked thankfully. joseph otm in that 4 of the top five are pretty great (i'm pretty sure we agree on which 4)(bottom half of the top ten: no so great). that kanye has me thinking i need to give late registration another shot.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"Check On It" was a pretty #1-y #1 (and possibly "Grillz" as well). But agreed about "Laffy Taffy," "You're Beautiful" and "Don't Forget About Us," all of which were extremely lucky to get their one week at #1.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 9 March 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm glad Rompe is (finally!) climbing. It is getting a lot more play now.

deej..., Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

radio play i mean.

deej...., Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks for clearing that up

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

lol

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

(i think 'laffy taffy' hit #1 about seven months after it peaked on atlanta radio)

In the rest of the country, Laffy Taffy peaked at the time it hit number one. It wasn't played on the radio here (Seattle) til Octover/November. You have to remember that in Atlanta D4L are a local group and so radio there picked up on it before they were nationally known.

A Licky Boom Boom Down (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

o yeah, they had another hit before it that i liked a good bit more, in a better universe 'the abc's' by the grady babiez (which was a regional hit around the time d4l were hitting too) went to #1 instead.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Nothing here on how the top three albums in the country this week (or last week*? I can never keep weeks straight; I always get Billboard a week behind I think) were all for little kiddies? (i.e. High School Musical, Kidz Bop, Curious George soundtrack.) Well, now there is.

* - 'cuz now Ne-Yo passed them all on the right, right?

xhuxk, Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Last week, indeed. Keen observation though.

A Licky Boom Boom Down (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah Ne-Yo's got the #1 album (with a pretty impressive--these days, anyway--300k sold).

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Hawethorne Heights have failed, ROCK is doomed.

A Licky Boom Boom Down (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

NY Times piece this morning attributed Ne-Yo's sales figures to the single never have been legally available to download, for whatever it's worth. (Otherwise, the theory is, it would've cut into sales.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 9 March 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

>Keen observation though. <

Well, the Times business section and Billboard both observed it before I did, so I can't take credit. Seemed interesting, though.

xhuxk, Thursday, 9 March 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

NY Times piece this morning attributed Ne-Yo's sales figures to the single never have been legally available to download

As a consumer, I really resent this line of reasoning; it's what led to the utter removal of the singles market in the late '90s (and thus can be held responsible for the dramatic Napster rise thereafter).

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link

(or last week*? I can never keep weeks straight; I always get Billboard a week behind I think)

the print edition of Billboard magazine contains the charts that were announced a week earlier on the Billboard website, so you probably get your issue right on time, but it's info is always a week out of date. it's always kind of funny how the BB site phrases the announcements too, like "Ne-Yo will top next week's Billboard chart," as if it's predicting the future.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

This image will make my reading of next week's Billboard infinitely more entertaining. Thank you.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 10 March 2006 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Aly & AJ's "Rush" is now 22 on the digital tracks chart and 24 on the digital songs chart*, while it's up to 54 on Mediabase's CHR Pop airplay chart (461 plays on all the CHR Pop stations reporting to Mediabase). It is tied for #3 on the Radio Disney chart with Crazy Frog's "Axel F" at 72 plays each. It's been on the Radio Disney chart for months, but was getting no play elsewhere until the last few weeks. It is an amazing song. The harmonies are as good as Big & Rich's.

(*not that I can find anywhere on the Billboard online site that will tell me what the difference is between a downloaded song and a downloaded track)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:49 (eighteen years ago) link

And the Veronicas' "4ever" seems to have stalled at 252 plays on the CHR Pop airplay chart. Too bad. Its harmonies are as good as the AJ & Aly.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:57 (eighteen years ago) link

just posted this on the teen-pop thread:

Teen-rock (I guess) bands on the Billboad charts this week that I never heard or heard of before, and that I'm vaguely curious about:

THE FRAY - Who have a song with the intriguing title "Over My Head (Cable Car)" at #64 on the singles chart, so maybe they're from San Francisco? Also their album is at #110.

PLUMB -- "One woman rock act Tiffany Arbuckle," #177 on album chart.

FLYLEAF - #140 on album chart, and, judging from a photo elsehwere in the issue, they have a female singer.

Has anybody out there heard any of these bands? What sound they like?

xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

The Fray is one of VH1's "you oughta know" new artist picks that they run into the ground with little ad spots and video plays. cozy Counting Crows piano pop, but it is naggingly catchy and I'm not really sick of it yet. there's a line about a cable car in the verses but I don't really know why it's part of the title, it has nothing to do with the chorus.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I really do love that Fray single, its one of my top 5 of the year so far. Sadly, the album is absolutely dreadful.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The Fray song is pretty good, yeah.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

haha my little sister has been going on about the fray for aaages. ILM = tastemakers schmastemakers.

deeeeeej, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 01:37 (eighteen years ago) link

This is the news we've all been waiting for, I'm sure:

>For Immediate Release
March 15, 2006


MATISYAHU DEBUTS AT #4 ON BILLBOARD 200
WITH NEW ALBUM ‘YOUTH'

With Sales Of 119,000, ‘Youth,' Finds Matisyahu The Only Artist With Two Albums Currently In The Billboard Top 40

‘Youth' Captures #1 Spots On Top Internet Albums Chart, Digital Albums Chart And Reggae Chart As ‘Live At Stubb's' Lands at #3 On Reggae Chart



xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

And in the Hot 100, Ne-Yo gets a second week holding down Sean-eh. Top 4 of them two, Bluntula and Mary J remains unchanged, but at #5 it's NIGHT OF THE LIVING POWTER - up nine from last week, #5 after 5 weeks. I've seen your future... and it's really boring. TashBed climbs to an all-time peak of #7, Dem Franchise Boyz are tagged as 'AIRPLAY GAINER' which results in them climbing no places at all at #9.

Outside the top ten, there's reasonable climbs for 'Beep', 'Walk Away' and, er, 'Jesus, Take The Wheel'. Having peaked at #13 'Stupid Girls' slips for a second consecutive week, this week's #22.

New in the 50 - Matisyahu brings the great stuff kids go for at #28 from #61 last week, and Chamillionaire climbs from 57 to 36. Most intriguing one, though perhaps mainly from a British perspective, is Rascal Flatts at #49 with 'What Hurts The Most', the song that ex-S Club lead singer Jo O'Meara attempted to launch her solo career in the UK with last year. Over here, it peaked at #13 then vanished without trace. Its American progress may be slightly more successful, you'd reckon...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 March 2006 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link


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