Could you describe your impression of said tinkering in more detail, aldo? If they messed up "Firebomb" I will cry. I'd like to get the 3rd From The Sun CD but I have an original vinyl already... Got the other two new reissues on vinyl and they sure do sound nice. I'll have to do an A/B with my T&G CD.
― sleeve, Sunday, 18 November 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
It's not messed up as such, but it brings out the Iggy-ness more than other versions. Vocals too loud (for me), and the added separation on the drums brings out the 80s gated original production far more. It sounds better than anything on Instict, but has that same feel.
The drums, in particular, are where I think the most tinkering has taken place. They're clearer (again, in my opinion) than in previous issues, and in doing so they've played with the balance of them a lot. More cowbell/rim/sticks, less bass drum and toms. It makes it sound more dynamic, but also panders to the worst elements of the production. And as I said, the first two tracks (and maybe Shadows Of A Thousand Years) seem to have the vocals pushed slightly too high in the mix or possibly too little guitar, which is in this context arguably the same thing.
But these are minor criticisms of awesome records. Maybe I need to listen to them alongside the T&G issues as well.
― aldo, Monday, 19 November 2007 09:53 (sixteen years ago) link
re Mike Dixn: bought that Alien Soundtracks LP (w crappy 1-sided cover & badge & patch). While it's nice to have a new copy, it's a weird, half-ass package job. Retarded 2-tone vinyl is another drag, but my old Dossier press is beat to shit, So hooray.
Been listening to the Anopheles reissue of George Brigman's Jungle Rot LP. Guitar and even vocals often remind me of HCreed. Wonder if he'd heard it at the time. Unlikely, I suppose.
― Bob Standard, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 06:12 (sixteen years ago) link
OTM about George Brigman! I thought the exact same when I first heard Jungle Rot. The first rrack sounds just like TV as Eyes.
And yeah, the packaging is pretty weak. (Nice badge though)
― Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link
i can feel my brain dripping thnose rouhg my and my tearsa re taste like rainbows
― burt_stanton, Thursday, 10 January 2008 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link
CHROME
― admrl, Monday, 14 July 2008 05:33 (fifteen years ago) link
bst bnd nam vr
― yungblut, Monday, 14 July 2008 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link
YOU'VE BEEN REPLICATED
― haitch, Monday, 14 July 2008 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link
It's You've Been Duplicated Doh!
http://www.cduniverse.com/sresult.asp?HT_SEARCH=AS&HT_SEARCH_INFO=Chrome&song=You've+Been+Duplicated
― Gorge, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Will never get the proper luv
― burt_stanton, Monday, 14 July 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
IIRC Damon actually rings the changes on "you've been replicated . . duplicated" and Cthulhu knows what else, then finishes off with ". . REPLACED!" Levels of distortion make it hard to tell. It's great, anyway.
Favorite Chrome lyrical moment was in an improvised jam on a live boot where he broke off in the middle of a more than usually incomprehensible rant with the aside 'I don't know why I'm telling you this'. Never failed to crack me up.
― Soukesian, Monday, 14 July 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
does ellison still post here? did he change his name and i missed it? cause i just wanted to say thanks for accidentally goading me into liking todd tamanend clark and the twinkeyz. and now creme soda.
thanks, dude!
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, same here with TTC. Found that dude through this thread. Secret Sinema, good song.
― burt_stanton, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
There was a nice feature on Gary Spain talking about his days in Chrome (played bass on Vistations through Half Machine) up at Foxy Digitalis but I can't find the text now, just some kind of place holder. http://www.digitalisindustries.com/foxyd/features.php?which=63
― Trip Maker, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
"and now creme soda"
spread the love!
― Marco Damiani, Saturday, 19 July 2008 08:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I just got myself Half Machine Lip Moves based on this thread. So thank you.
― MacDara, Saturday, 19 July 2008 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link
it is a whole world of awesome!
― sleeve, Saturday, 19 July 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Amen! Who else is fucking with our heads like this now?
― Soukesian, Saturday, 19 July 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Everybody's favorite label, Cleopatra Records, is supposedly releasing a deluxe edition of the Chrome box on August 5th. Let's hope they don't screw it up.
― brg30, Sunday, 20 July 2008 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link
It's Cleopatra. Ergo, not a question of hoping they don't screw it up but of hoping that the damage is minimal.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 July 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link
amen to that
― sleeve, Sunday, 20 July 2008 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I have the old Chrome CD box ... the annoying thing with it is that Red Exposure, Blood on the Moon, etc., are totally truncated.
― burt_stanton, Sunday, 20 July 2008 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I can see them fecking it up by putting all Non Creed material on disc 3...
― brg30, Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link
god, i hope hope hope this is the full box set. like the lps. that used to be affordable once upon a time.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 20 July 2008 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link
hi, I'm Hugo, CHROME fan from the first hour. I have every record from chrome (Damon and Helios),chrome by damon edge and every chrome by Helios creed , also the cd's and albums under his name, but, also all the damon edge stuff under his name. My amphetaminesh feeling was(around 1979) that this was the first band that did something you can't describe, even now, still , there are no words for it. from super psychedelic industrial till rock buzz over backwards forward deep emotional experimental junk Never done before, still not done. We were so impressed that, afer they split up, we still found, HERE iN BELGIUM all,the Chrome" stuff (by damon). Why nobody listens to 'the Lyon Concert' By damon and his (french, swiss?) band. Absolutely top. If you were there, you would know that damon was going down with the next records: clean sound, but only sometimes nice. No Chrome. Then he died, Helios took over and was closer to the chrome sound. Also during the last 10 years of damons life. I have all the cd's from HC (except the ambient , they are terrible) So, In total I have 15 albums and 20 cd's or something, looking for more. there is no Chrome. HC still goes great, but Damon is gone , and together the magic was wonderfull. Also, most albums weren't Fantastic, but if you make compilations, you can fill 10 cd's. What I don't like is that the re-releases of some albums (alien soundtracks; the best) are manipulated so ,... I have tapes of the originals , or records, they have more tracks than the cd's. The chroncles 1 and 2 Are same than raining milk or alien soundtracks, Forgive me if I mix up a few things. and,... the cd's are again different. And I have the Maxi singles too. I am still in love with the most excitng junk , started end 70ties without HC (visitation) hippie kind of evolution, And till 83 With him HC, I, can be wrong about dates, but who cares when you live from 78 tll 2008 with that deep emotion, love , space , junk, angryness, sadness, and , of course excitement. and the chaos. yeah!! I want to bring Helios to Belgium, I organise gigs and festivals. All Psy: from goa trance to industrial.I also like JJ cale, Zappa or Throbbing Hawkwistle, tribal , or anything that makes me feel good . James brown. thanx Hugo Peeters +32 15 211 523 BELGIUM BORN '62 and full on, dancer and music desperado. And listen to Juno Reactor different same same. less chaos, more bpm. Good night c u in the subway
― hudu70, Thursday, 7 August 2008 02:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Throbbing Hawkwistle!
― gnarly sceptre, Thursday, 7 August 2008 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Gristlewind?
― gnarly sceptre, Thursday, 7 August 2008 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link
tantric testicles are great too!
― hudu70, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link
I am still in love with the most excitng junk.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 7 August 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
hi Hugo
― am0n, Thursday, 7 August 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
C U In The Subway!
― admrl, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I am wearing a Chrome t-shirt right now, i just realized.
― admrl, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link
"Why nobody listens to 'the Lyon Concert' By damon and his (french, swiss?) band. Absolutely top."
If that's the case, then I be nobody, and, yes, absolutely tip top number one, pass the bong, sah!
― Soukesian, Thursday, 7 August 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
did you put it in real chrome, you'll look very shiny at daytime. hard to move yer upper body. They should make a law against it when it is sunny. The metal is too reflecting. only good to wear at te march of the chrome police, perfect for the zombie warfare, stay left at the 3rd from the sun (use a compass),. password is abstract bimbo, and wear sunglasses, cause the future looks good, except for the fire bombs. Or choose for isolation, with the alliance of the hearts , and don't move like that, when you meet pygmees in zee subway, by the Zooo. peace chromaniacs. I want also a chrome t shirt , but the original. With the full alien monster, not the half, wich Helios used. Like the dvd, where I saw only helios, but not Damon. Don't get me wrong,I was on the phone with Helios, but Chrome were two. We are all one. Long live Helios Creed, and respect for the dodgy but genius Demon edge. Hallelujah. Where was that bong? Listen to kong. quite same same but different. ciao keep it kiss and cozy. Hugo Belgium. Need something chromatic. I share everything for free. Only for real real few chromosomes. Not for downloading business people. And i'm lazy. there's a motor in my head. Disconnected. for a thousand years. x
― hudu70, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
thanx Hugo Peeters +32 15 211 523
what happens if you call this #
― am0n, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
everything goes white and you wake up in a subway station in thailand
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 9 August 2008 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link
?
Chrome/Helios Creed "Dual Forces" Tour
We've got a national tour in the works. Helios shall be joined by Aleph on drums, Lux on bass, and Jerry Page on keyboards/second guitar/metal objects.
2008-09-17 San Francisco, CA Hemlock Tavern 2008-09-18 Ashland, OR Stillwater 2008-09-19 Portland, OR East End Pub 2008-09-20 Seattle, WA The Funhouse 2008-09-23 Denver, CO 3 Kings Tavern 2008-09-24 Lincoln, NE Knickerbockers 2008-09-25 Kansas City, MO Record Bar 2008-09-26 St. Paul, MN Turf Club 2008-09-27 Chicago, IL Cobra Lounge 2008-09-28 Pontiac, MI Pike Room 2008-09-29 Cleveland, OH Beachland 2008-10-01 Boston, MA Church 2008-10-02 New York, NY The Annex 2008-10-03 Baltimore, MD Talking Head 2008-10-04 Charleston, WV Empty Glass 2008-10-05 Charlotte, NC The Milestone 2008-10-06 Atlanta, GA Drunken Unicorn 2008-10-07 Birmingham, AL The Nick 2008-10-09 Houston, TX Rudyards 2008-10-10 Dallas, TX Prophet Bar 2008-10-15 Los Angeles, CA Knitting Factory
― am0n, Friday, 29 August 2008 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I think I saw an ad for this and thought it was a typo for Chromeo!
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 August 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
if only u could tour the country by subway train
― am0n, Friday, 29 August 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link
will go to that
― BigLurks, Friday, 29 August 2008 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link
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-- Ned Raggett, Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:39 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link
-- sleeve, Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:49 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link
new box is the same truncated bullshit as the old box, no difference in track listing.
Fuck you, Cleopatra.
― sleeve, Saturday, 30 August 2008 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Hahaha, oh my lack of surprise.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 August 2008 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link
so why is it deluxe edition
― am0n, Saturday, 30 August 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link
b/c it has a badge and a patch! oh the joy!!!
― sleeve, Saturday, 30 August 2008 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Someone told you I mentioned Chrome in chatz tonight, didn't they, Am0n?
― Bimble, Saturday, 30 August 2008 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link
the chrome cover of "here come the warm jets" rules
― geeta, Saturday, 30 August 2008 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link
please tell me more, never heard of it.
― sleeve, Saturday, 30 August 2008 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link
it's mostly pretty faithful to the original, but a little harder and noisier. the ending is awesome -- it slows down, abruptly speeds up, and fades out.
― geeta, Saturday, 30 August 2008 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Man, I didn't know about this! What record is it on? (Or maybe I did know about it and forgot...)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 August 2008 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Never heard of this, need to hear it.
Hope the tour makes it to Europe.
― Soukesian, Saturday, 30 August 2008 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link