Chrome: C or D?

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Could you describe your impression of said tinkering in more detail, aldo? If they messed up "Firebomb" I will cry. I'd like to get the 3rd From The Sun CD but I have an original vinyl already... Got the other two new reissues on vinyl and they sure do sound nice. I'll have to do an A/B with my T&G CD.

sleeve, Sunday, 18 November 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not messed up as such, but it brings out the Iggy-ness more than other versions. Vocals too loud (for me), and the added separation on the drums brings out the 80s gated original production far more. It sounds better than anything on Instict, but has that same feel.

The drums, in particular, are where I think the most tinkering has taken place. They're clearer (again, in my opinion) than in previous issues, and in doing so they've played with the balance of them a lot. More cowbell/rim/sticks, less bass drum and toms. It makes it sound more dynamic, but also panders to the worst elements of the production. And as I said, the first two tracks (and maybe Shadows Of A Thousand Years) seem to have the vocals pushed slightly too high in the mix or possibly too little guitar, which is in this context arguably the same thing.

But these are minor criticisms of awesome records. Maybe I need to listen to them alongside the T&G issues as well.

aldo, Monday, 19 November 2007 09:53 (sixteen years ago) link

re Mike Dixn: bought that Alien Soundtracks LP (w crappy 1-sided cover & badge & patch). While it's nice to have a new copy, it's a weird, half-ass package job. Retarded 2-tone vinyl is another drag, but my old Dossier press is beat to shit, So hooray.

Been listening to the Anopheles reissue of George Brigman's Jungle Rot LP. Guitar and even vocals often remind me of HCreed. Wonder if he'd heard it at the time. Unlikely, I suppose.

Bob Standard, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 06:12 (sixteen years ago) link

OTM about George Brigman! I thought the exact same when I first heard Jungle Rot. The first rrack sounds just like TV as Eyes.

And yeah, the packaging is pretty weak. (Nice badge though)

Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i can feel my brain dripping thnose rouhg my and my tearsa re taste like rainbows

burt_stanton, Thursday, 10 January 2008 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

CHROME

admrl, Monday, 14 July 2008 05:33 (fifteen years ago) link

bst bnd nam vr

yungblut, Monday, 14 July 2008 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link

YOU'VE BEEN REPLICATED

haitch, Monday, 14 July 2008 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

It's You've Been Duplicated Doh!

http://www.cduniverse.com/sresult.asp?HT_SEARCH=AS&HT_SEARCH_INFO=Chrome&song=You've+Been+Duplicated

Gorge, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Will never get the proper luv

burt_stanton, Monday, 14 July 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

IIRC Damon actually rings the changes on "you've been replicated . . duplicated" and Cthulhu knows what else, then finishes off with ". . REPLACED!" Levels of distortion make it hard to tell. It's great, anyway.

Favorite Chrome lyrical moment was in an improvised jam on a live boot where he broke off in the middle of a more than usually incomprehensible rant with the aside 'I don't know why I'm telling you this'. Never failed to crack me up.

Soukesian, Monday, 14 July 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

does ellison still post here? did he change his name and i missed it? cause i just wanted to say thanks for accidentally goading me into liking todd tamanend clark and the twinkeyz. and now creme soda.

thanks, dude!

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, same here with TTC. Found that dude through this thread. Secret Sinema, good song.

burt_stanton, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

There was a nice feature on Gary Spain talking about his days in Chrome (played bass on Vistations through Half Machine) up at Foxy Digitalis but I can't find the text now, just some kind of place holder.
http://www.digitalisindustries.com/foxyd/features.php?which=63

Trip Maker, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

"and now creme soda"

spread the love!

Marco Damiani, Saturday, 19 July 2008 08:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I just got myself Half Machine Lip Moves based on this thread. So thank you.

MacDara, Saturday, 19 July 2008 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

it is a whole world of awesome!

sleeve, Saturday, 19 July 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Amen! Who else is fucking with our heads like this now?

Soukesian, Saturday, 19 July 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Everybody's favorite label, Cleopatra Records, is supposedly releasing a deluxe edition of the Chrome box on August 5th. Let's hope they don't screw it up.

brg30, Sunday, 20 July 2008 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

It's Cleopatra. Ergo, not a question of hoping they don't screw it up but of hoping that the damage is minimal.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 July 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link

amen to that

sleeve, Sunday, 20 July 2008 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I have the old Chrome CD box ... the annoying thing with it is that Red Exposure, Blood on the Moon, etc., are totally truncated.

burt_stanton, Sunday, 20 July 2008 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I can see them fecking it up by putting all Non Creed material on disc 3...

brg30, Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

god, i hope hope hope this is the full box set. like the lps. that used to be affordable once upon a time.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 20 July 2008 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

hi, I'm Hugo, CHROME fan from the first hour. I have every record from chrome (Damon and Helios),chrome by damon edge and every chrome by Helios creed , also the cd's and albums under his name, but, also all the damon edge stuff under his name. My amphetaminesh feeling was(around 1979) that this was the first band that did something you can't describe, even now, still , there are no words for it. from super psychedelic industrial till rock buzz over backwards forward deep
emotional experimental junk Never done before, still not done. We were so impressed that, afer they split up, we still found, HERE iN BELGIUM all,the Chrome" stuff (by damon). Why nobody listens to 'the Lyon Concert' By damon and his (french, swiss?) band. Absolutely top.
If you were there, you would know that damon was going down with the next records: clean sound, but only sometimes nice. No Chrome. Then he died, Helios took over and was closer to the chrome sound. Also during the last 10 years of damons life. I have all the cd's from HC (except the ambient , they are terrible) So, In total I have 15 albums and 20 cd's or something, looking for more. there is no Chrome. HC still goes great, but Damon is gone , and together the magic was wonderfull. Also, most albums weren't Fantastic, but if you make compilations, you can fill 10 cd's. What I don't like is that the re-releases of some albums (alien soundtracks; the best) are manipulated so ,... I have tapes of the originals , or records, they have more tracks than the cd's. The chroncles 1 and 2 Are same than raining milk or alien soundtracks, Forgive me if I mix up a few things. and,... the cd's are again different. And I have the Maxi singles too. I am still in love with the most excitng junk , started end 70ties without HC (visitation) hippie kind of evolution, And till 83 With him HC, I, can be wrong about dates, but who cares when you live from 78 tll 2008 with that deep emotion, love , space , junk, angryness, sadness, and , of course excitement. and the chaos. yeah!!
I want to bring Helios to Belgium, I organise gigs and festivals. All Psy: from goa trance to industrial.I also like JJ cale, Zappa or Throbbing Hawkwistle, tribal , or anything that makes me feel good . James brown. thanx Hugo Peeters +32 15 211 523 BELGIUM BORN '62 and full on, dancer and music desperado. And listen to Juno Reactor different same same. less chaos, more bpm. Good night c u in the subway

hudu70, Thursday, 7 August 2008 02:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Throbbing Hawkwistle!

gnarly sceptre, Thursday, 7 August 2008 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Gristlewind?

gnarly sceptre, Thursday, 7 August 2008 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link

tantric testicles are great too!

hudu70, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I am still in love with the most excitng junk.

contenderizer, Thursday, 7 August 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

hi Hugo

am0n, Thursday, 7 August 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

C U In The Subway!

admrl, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I am wearing a Chrome t-shirt right now, i just realized.

admrl, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

"Why nobody listens to 'the Lyon Concert' By damon and his (french, swiss?) band. Absolutely top."

If that's the case, then I be nobody, and, yes, absolutely tip top number one, pass the bong, sah!

Soukesian, Thursday, 7 August 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

did you put it in real chrome, you'll look very shiny at daytime. hard to move yer upper body. They should make a law against it when it is sunny. The metal is too reflecting. only good to wear at te march of the chrome police, perfect for the zombie warfare, stay left at the 3rd from the sun (use a compass),. password is abstract bimbo, and wear sunglasses, cause the future looks good, except for the fire bombs. Or choose for isolation, with the alliance of the hearts , and don't move like that, when you meet pygmees in zee subway, by the Zooo. peace chromaniacs. I want also a chrome t shirt , but the original. With the full alien monster, not the half, wich Helios used. Like the dvd, where I saw only helios, but not Damon. Don't get me wrong,I was on the phone with Helios, but Chrome were two. We are all one. Long live Helios Creed, and respect for the dodgy but genius Demon edge. Hallelujah. Where was that bong? Listen to kong. quite same same but different. ciao keep it kiss and cozy. Hugo Belgium. Need something chromatic. I share everything for free. Only for real real few chromosomes. Not for downloading business people. And i'm lazy. there's a motor in my head. Disconnected. for a thousand years. x

hudu70, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

thanx Hugo Peeters +32 15 211 523

what happens if you call this #

am0n, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

everything goes white and you wake up in a subway station in thailand

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 9 August 2008 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

?

Chrome/Helios Creed "Dual Forces" Tour

We've got a national tour in the works. Helios shall be joined by Aleph on drums, Lux on bass, and Jerry Page on keyboards/second guitar/metal objects.

2008-09-17 San Francisco, CA Hemlock Tavern
2008-09-18 Ashland, OR Stillwater
2008-09-19 Portland, OR East End Pub
2008-09-20 Seattle, WA The Funhouse
2008-09-23 Denver, CO 3 Kings Tavern
2008-09-24 Lincoln, NE Knickerbockers
2008-09-25 Kansas City, MO Record Bar
2008-09-26 St. Paul, MN Turf Club
2008-09-27 Chicago, IL Cobra Lounge
2008-09-28 Pontiac, MI Pike Room
2008-09-29 Cleveland, OH Beachland
2008-10-01 Boston, MA Church
2008-10-02 New York, NY The Annex
2008-10-03 Baltimore, MD Talking Head
2008-10-04 Charleston, WV Empty Glass
2008-10-05 Charlotte, NC The Milestone
2008-10-06 Atlanta, GA Drunken Unicorn
2008-10-07 Birmingham, AL The Nick
2008-10-09 Houston, TX Rudyards
2008-10-10 Dallas, TX Prophet Bar
2008-10-15 Los Angeles, CA Knitting Factory

am0n, Friday, 29 August 2008 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I saw an ad for this and thought it was a typo for Chromeo!

Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 August 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

if only u could tour the country by subway train

am0n, Friday, 29 August 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

will go to that

BigLurks, Friday, 29 August 2008 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Everybody's favorite label, Cleopatra Records, is supposedly releasing a deluxe edition of the Chrome box on August 5th. Let's hope they don't screw it up.

-- brg30, Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:24 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

It's Cleopatra. Ergo, not a question of hoping they don't screw it up but of hoping that the damage is minimal.

-- Ned Raggett, Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:39 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

amen to that

-- sleeve, Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:49 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

new box is the same truncated bullshit as the old box, no difference in track listing.

Fuck you, Cleopatra.

sleeve, Saturday, 30 August 2008 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha, oh my lack of surprise.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 August 2008 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link

so why is it deluxe edition

am0n, Saturday, 30 August 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

b/c it has a badge and a patch! oh the joy!!!

sleeve, Saturday, 30 August 2008 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Someone told you I mentioned Chrome in chatz tonight, didn't they, Am0n?

Bimble, Saturday, 30 August 2008 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

the chrome cover of "here come the warm jets" rules

geeta, Saturday, 30 August 2008 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link

please tell me more, never heard of it.

sleeve, Saturday, 30 August 2008 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

it's mostly pretty faithful to the original, but a little harder and noisier. the ending is awesome -- it slows down, abruptly speeds up, and fades out.

geeta, Saturday, 30 August 2008 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Man, I didn't know about this! What record is it on? (Or maybe I did know about it and forgot...)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 August 2008 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Never heard of this, need to hear it.

Hope the tour makes it to Europe.

Soukesian, Saturday, 30 August 2008 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link


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