I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

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god bless santa cruz.

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 7 November 2009 07:39 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

finally got the Mono Box set for Christmas,after a day of listening to PPM, Revolver & the Beatles I have to say it was worth the wait.

will spend more time with it but the overall quality of the packaging and the remastering in general goes a long way to justify the price tag / blatant racketeering.

Including the original dust jackets but using plastic jackets for the CDs is a good example.

not sure I'd feel the same way about a plastic apple with a few lossless rips in it.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Saturday, 26 December 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I got the mono box for Christmas too! Absolutely OTM about it being worth the wait, and the packaging...putting them out as little mini albums was a very cool touch. An added bonus for me was playing some of the cds for my in-laws on Christmas day, my mother-in-law dancing around the kitchen to Twist N Shout, reminiscing with her husband about dancing to the song on their first date (they're both in their 70's). This is a woman who has trouble walking without a cane, and just the look of sheer happiness on her face as she reminisced over the old songs was SO great.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 27 December 2009 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Good to hear there's someone else to get excited about it with me, a good 3 months after the rest of the world.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 27 December 2009 11:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I decided that it had to be the stereo box set for my mum, because she was a big fan (even saw them in '63) but hasn't even heard a lot of the later albums. I'd love to join in with your tales of joy - but she, uh, hasn't even taken the cellophane off yet

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 December 2009 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man :/

thomp, Sunday, 27 December 2009 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha, it's not as bad as it sounds - I softened the blow by unleashing Beatles Rock Band on everyone in the evening, which is just about the most fun any of us have ever had!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 27 December 2009 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Good to hear there's someone else to get excited about it with me, a good 3 months after the rest of the world.
i'm thinking (hoping) i'm getting this for my b-day in a couple weeks, so I'll be excited along with you. I'll start some new polls.

tylerw, Sunday, 27 December 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Count me in - I'm another Mono Box Set Xms recipient - blasted my way through the albums up to Rubber Soul and the first Masters disc yesterday - too much joy. Will be listening a bit obsessively over the next while, obv.

Hey, Tyler, my birthday's in a few weeks, too. What are we getting each other?

I was in a drop-D metal band we called Requiem (staggerlee), Sunday, 27 December 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

If you're going stereo, go for the usb hard drive. The 24 bit flac files are as good as it gets, or at least as good as they've given us so far.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

better than the CDs? man, i don't think I could spend over $200 on a USB drive ....

tylerw, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

but it looks like the stem of an apple!

Euler, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

it sure does ...
I mean, I can see getting the drive if it was markedly cheaper than the CDs, but not more expensive ...

tylerw, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

better than the CDs?

Slightly. The usb flac files are 44 khz sampling rate, 24 bit resolution. The cds are 44/16. (All cds are 44/16.)

The master digital files that they use in the studio, though, are 96/24, so they still ain't giving all they got. They'd need to put it out on blu ray for 96/24.

I only have the usb apple, not the stereo cd remasters, so I can't do a direct comparison. But those flac files kick like crazy.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, so the blu ray is probably imminent? mono & stereo box sets?

tylerw, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I was wrong above about the sampling rate used in the studio -- I think it was 192 khz.

Neil went blu ray. I haven't heard anything about the Beatles going that route. They are talking about vinyl though. (The big controversy: Will they use the digital masters or go back to the analog tapes?)

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Cue a million people to tell me you can't hear the difference.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I think generally all the remasters kick like crazy.

I remember an audio lecturer of mine showing that at 24bit, the difference between bits is so small it can be created by a difference in temperature in the A>D converter.

not dissing the USB stick but just saying......

For those of you about to receive the box sets, I would recommend going through all of the anthology documentary on youtube.

the guy with the complete set is called excessaccess I think.

there is relatively little full performances so you still jones' for the songs but can put everything in context.

it does drum into you how playing for 6+ hours in Hamburg for weeks on end will forge an amazing rock'n'roll band, which you then can hear on the early remasters.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 27 December 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

It might have been on this thread, WAY upthread...someone said comparitively, the Beatles achieved their entire output in the equivalent of 2000 to 2010. I mean, I know the sixties knocks the time analogy for a loop, but still. It blows me away everytime I think about it that way.

Also: my Beatlemania had gone into a more settled down mode after the early mania of the stereo remasters. the mono box has it back with a vengeance.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 28 December 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link

the early mania of the stereo remasters = ILM Beatlemania

now their appeal is more selective.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 28 December 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

"They are talking about vinyl though. (The big controversy: Will they use the digital masters or go back to the analog tapes?)"

I have seen a bunch of vinyl reissues lately. Are they not remasters?

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

as far a i know, the remasters haven't come out on vinyl yet.

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Vinyl remasters are coming in 2010, I have March/April in my head, but that may not be right.

krakow, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 11:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow a lot of people are paying $29.99+ for vinyl reissues of the old masters. Hah.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

lol...it's funny now, but who knows what they'll charge for the vinyl remasters... we could all be laughing on the other side of our wallets next year.

have worked my way through the mono box up to Pepper...holy wow. Lucy alone kind of spun my head a little bit. I think I might like the mono version more than the stereo. Well, right now at 6.30 on Tuesday night. That'll change tomorrow.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Does anyone know if the remasters are now standard for radio play? I've heard a good bit of Beatles on the air over the weekend, in particular one station playing the entirety of Abbey Road, and they sounded really good (and had many previously mono-in-US tracks in stereo).

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd guess most radio DJs are all over this. It's not exactly going to be "under their radar".

I too have heard some massive-sounding Beatles tracks on the radio of late.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I remember radio started playing the CD versions of the old albums as soon as they appeared (mid-to-late 80s), so I am sure they have done this time around too. Mainly the stereo versions as they are the most "mainstream" ones these days.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

radio changes the sound of things so much it's not really fair to judge them based on that.

akm, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I spent a 2 hour coach journey to the airport yesterday listening to mono-masters.

the first 5 tracks off disc 2 puts the album in the top 5% of all music.

McCartney's bass in rain possibly does that all by itself.

not going near Sgt. Pepper till Ive digested the other albums more thoroughly.

currently Hard Days Night is my toppermost of the poppermost.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 31 December 2009 11:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Playing the monos through the stereo even more enjoyable than headphones too, btw. The whole box may be the best Christmas present ever. Cannot stop listening!!!

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 1 January 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Playing mono records on stereos with two speakers is just false.

;)

Nate Carson, Friday, 1 January 2010 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Lol! I toyed with the idea of ripping out all the speakers except the center channel but Mr Veg got mad... goddamn futurists.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 1 January 2010 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I think you should really cut off one of your ears.

Nate Carson, Friday, 1 January 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Quite right! New Year's resolution: ear augmentation surgery, one ear in the middle of my forehead, both canals blocked and diverted into one main canal. All mono, all the time.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 1 January 2010 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link

You, Van Gogh, and Brian Wilson. Elite company you keep!

Nate Carson, Friday, 1 January 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link

simply move the two speakers together = mono.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Friday, 1 January 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Really? Wow.

goldwax, Friday, 1 January 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

"Fold-down" mono for the lose.

Did you say you were going to mangle the light? (staggerlee), Friday, 1 January 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Prezactly.

goldwax, Friday, 1 January 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

hey dudes, what's up i got the stereo box for my birthday! who wants to talk about THE BEATLES.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm listening to Yellow Submarine right now! I've never owned it before. Harrison's peak?

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

The stereo Submarine sounds SO GOOD.

You're a lucky man to get such a cool present.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i kinda like the george martin sdtk bits here -- a friend from way back in college had this old car w/ an 8-track player and one of the few cartridges she had was Yellow Submarine. So listening to these orchestral things is making me think of driving around the Hudson Valley late at night.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

she also had a tom jones live album which was pretty intense.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yo tyler my wife is from Hudson!

I am glad the mono boxes are available again even though I can't afford one.

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

you can't afford not to buy a mono box.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 21 January 2010 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.mikemake.com/#72772/Charting-the-Beatles

DavidM, Thursday, 21 January 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.mikemake.com/media/72772/Keys2.3-web-detail2.gif

DavidM, Thursday, 21 January 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link


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