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so what's the substitution associated with Ulver?

sarahel, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i was just listening to the Kayo Dot song (which isn't my favorite song on that album) and there are some similarities between it and the Ulver song, that I'm trying to put my finger on, that could help explain to me specifics of how lj's taste and mine differ.

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

use of the 'structured descent into intensity'?

the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

You know how I said that Shining 'have probably listened to some King Crimson'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eXUjfVPkGk&NR=1

the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - no, that's a pretty common musical form/structure. The similarity had to do with vocal tonality, chord changes, and some similarity in notes/melodic lines.

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

why yes i adore advanced chord-changes

the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

dude

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - i think i've mentioned this before, but i have noticed that you tend to prefer "smoother" sounding vocals than i do.

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

not always! i love the fall...and lots of cookie-metal...

the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

there's something to be said abt my melodic/tonal sensibilities tho

the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

. . .

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

hey sarahel did u know that zach hill is the drummer in wavves just fyi

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i did not know this. zach hill is the michael jordan of drumming imo

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

wavves r no monstars tho

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - lj: i'm not saying always - but it seems like the stuff you like the most has a similar vocal quality and there are certain melodic similarities.

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

wavves r no monstars tho

I love you for this.

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

sarahel my favourite band is cardiacs and the singer has an EXTREMELY abrasive albeit tuneful vocal style

the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I need to stop seeing "Cardigans" every time someone mentions "Cardiacs"

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

the fleeting hope whenever i enter a major music retailer and look at the name-cards

the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha my 7th-placed artist's cover of my sixth-placed song is AMAZING

my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Super Furry Animals - (Drawing) Rings Around The World (3.30)

This song is a bit short, isn't it?

I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

it's true, they could have made it 15 minutes long and i'd have probably put it 9th

my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I wish him every benevolence in his ongoing recovery from heart-attack-induced brain damage

Fit of giggles here

I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

re Cardiacs-related misreadings, I need to shop misreading the board on the pub next to my bus stop which says "LIVE MUSIC: Dave SMITH and the CADILLACS"

plus I suspect there have been approx 6000 bands called the Cadillacs in the history of music so maybe someone else in the bus queue is getting wrongly excited without having to misread it

subtyll cauillacyons (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 30 November 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

IMPORTANT POLL

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

the only song i know for def i've heard is chris michaels

plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link

but that is pretty great

plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i've heard four of these. i like the four i've heard, though generally prefer other songs on the albums - did i post that before?

sarahel, Monday, 30 November 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

To repost (hope these haven't expired!):

SANCTUARY: http://www.sendspace.com/file/a6sozt

THE TERSE CRIMP: http://www.sendspace.com/file/80p6ar

not afaik sarahel

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

wait, i was thinking of cousin chris, chris michaels is pretty good too tho

plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

cousin chris has some epic drums too

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - maybe i just referred to it - your kayo dot pick would not be my kayo dot pick.

sarahel, Monday, 30 November 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

agreed with plax

louis did you ever listen to the first FF album?

we be emi robin' (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i listened to the first FF album and it was good but i prefer blueberry boat, the ep, bitter tea and widow city...diff strokes obv

sarahel, there are several worthy KD choices, but that one is the one that rinses my mind clean and awes me into a quivering wreck

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

they never really topped their first single 4 me

plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

^agree

also terse crimp is my least favourite lapsus track

electrical audio's sm57 (electricsound), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

(woulda gone for parade or olestra)

electrical audio's sm57 (electricsound), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

haha esoj but we are at ODDS when it comes to schizo warped proggy fuckabouts...those two tracks are really good too mind, if not quite as brilliantly demented imho

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i would have gone with the first one - Gemini becoming the tripod.

sarahel, Monday, 30 November 2009 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

that song is my 2nd-fave song on the album and maybe my 3rd-fave KD song - it begins dramatically, builds deliciously, and then in the last 2 minutes becomes this towering, out-of-control tidal wave of crazy music...beautiful

but it isn't the primal force of holy mother of god that is ___olf

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

see that's where we have our disagreements - the vocals are just so smooth and croony - it's hard for me to see something with smooth, croony vocals as "the primal force of holy mother of god" - I don't hate smooth, croony vocals - they just feel too mannered for me for a song with them to have that kind of power that you're describing.

sarahel, Monday, 30 November 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

haha he is smooth and croony in the first bit, but in the climactic second section i *think* you can hear him screaming his lungs out. well, it might be a guitar. whatever it is, something is hollering, and it ain't happy. the 'mannered' vocals are nothing more than ominous but then they don't need to be.

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link

for those who haven't heard it, this is an 18-minute song, and the first 5 minutes have 'croony' vocals. the remaining 13 minutes have hell on earth.

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

it's not really "hell on earth" compared to deathspell omega, tbh

sarahel, Monday, 30 November 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

well, not as LITERALLY as DSO would have it. and not quite as tortuous, frenzied or plain mentalist. but vast, and suffocating, and crushing. *i* think it's great.

just gave Gemini Becoming The Tripod a listen and yeah it's fabulous, as I remember.

other amazing KD trax: The Manifold Curiosity, The Antique, Blue Lambency Downward, The Awkward Windwheel

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i like it too - i just think sometimes you are prone to exaggerate certain qualities when describing songs.

sarahel, Monday, 30 November 2009 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link

prone to exaggerations in your descriptions - especially in the context of existing music.

sarahel, Monday, 30 November 2009 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link

perhaps. i had a truly revelatory experience with that track on earphones tho, what can i say? it slayed me dead. my descriptions are based on my very personal reaction to the music and aren't exaggerations from my perspective. i use figures of speech a lot; take them with the intended pinch of salt! ___on limpid form is *a* descent into the inferno, not THE descent into the inferno.

not that that DSO song doesn't need near-equal amounts of love.

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link

well - if it's a descent into the inferno, that inferno is actually not all that infernal - like it isn't all that raging.

sarahel, Monday, 30 November 2009 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link


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