― oops (Oops), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
oops fairly OTM there. Stankonia is Outkast's 'on top of the world' album though.
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
The "funny" thing about Professor Griff is that his solo album was produced by a white friend of mine.
― hstencil, Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
Has anyone responded to this claim from the original post yet? I'm not sure I agree...supporting evidence?
― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ask and ye etc (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
I was thinking of *intentionally* comic jester figures...
― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― disco stu (disco stu), Friday, 11 April 2003 01:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― milton, Friday, 11 April 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
For those who lackThe odds are stackedThe one who makes the money is white not blackYou might not believe it but it is like that
The first thing you noticed about the song was that no one had ever said things like that in a rap. The second thing was how instantly addictive the phrasing was. The first three lines could be Run-DMC or the Beasties. The fourth line is pure jazz.
It's that combo that makes Chuck swings so hard--much harder than the "great MCs" in my opinion. My first reaction to Nation was that it was too noisy to hear the drums. But then I realized Chuck was the drum.
In fact, I think the fall-off on Black Planet isn't the Bomb Squad but Chuck. Even on the last classic single, the remix of "Brothers Gonna Work It Out," he kinda sounds like he's catching up with the sonics rather than dominating them. "Refuse to lose" is the great exception. I knew a guy who went around repeating that opening over and over again...
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 11 April 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 11 April 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
Anyone have a copy of this in electronic form?
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago) link
issue 20 not yet online, but I thoroughly recommend buying a copy. even if just for this article, there are so few shocklee/chuck interviews where they talk about their work method anyway
stay free is amazing
― (Jon L), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link
Anyone got a scanner?
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link
― hector (hector), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:55 (twenty years ago) link
"They were a poor, black gang of kids from the New York ghetto, but through a shared love of those crazy negro rhythms, and unimpeachable social consciences, they moved the hearts and minds of millions of white college kids."
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago) link
NWA (ie, Dre) totally ripped the Bomb Squad production for ZAGGIN4EFIL and the "100 miles and running" EP. Gawd, remembering some of these songs in my head makes me realize just how bad Dre was as a rapper. I'm not sold on his legacy as a producer either tho...
For no reason I want to mention "Jackin' For Beats" by Ice Cube.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:07 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:09 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:14 (twenty years ago) link
-- Matos W.K. (michaelangelomato...), March 25th, 2004 8:55 PM. (M Matos) (later)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 10:25 (twenty years ago) link
point of order - it WAS!!!
― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 25 March 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago) link
It Takes a Nation of Interns to Troll Us Back
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2012/07/05/156327372/youve-never-heard-public-enemys-it-takes-a-nation-of-millions-to-hold-us-back
Ultimately, I have no regrets leaving It Takes A Nation on what is now an entirely metaphorical shelf. I'll gladly say thank-you, but given the choice, I'm going to blast Drake's infectiously triumphant mp3s every time.
― dmr, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
ha ha, one of the pitfalls of free will. some will choose death over life every time.
"I hesitate to use the word influence, but the question really has to be asked: other than their perenial place on critic's polls what was Public Enemy's lasting effect on hip hop?"
yeah, I sometimes wonder why more writers choose not to write like Nabakov, or why more running backs choose not to run like Barry Sanders?
― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
It's the ones who write like Sanders and run like Nabokov that concern me.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
the lex responded
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
where?
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
Publishing this on NPR is definitely trollbait, but I don't have an issue with the kid preferring Drake to Public Enemy. Among all of the comments sputtering with outrage, there was a smart one, I thought, that said something to the effect of "Hey, based on your tastes in current hip-hop, Public Enemy probably wasn't the best recommendation. I bet you'd be more into Tribe or De La Soul."
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
That was Questlove!
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
Lex's response, which I thought was pretty great:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2012/jul/17/public-enemy-classic-albums?newsfeed=true
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
lol NPR really running with this music-troll thing
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
Quest's comment was also good, but this was a different one.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
I don't have a problem with the piece really. he listened to it and responded to it critically, and divorced as he is from it's context he doesn't find anything sonically engaging about it. that's fair.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
of course if you really want to understand hip-hop's history as a genre you kind of have to know this record, but that's a different thing from enjoying listening to it
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Exactly.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:44 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
whether the guy is allowed to have his opinion, or whether it's an understandable preference for someone his age, is like the 80th most pressing aspect of all this though
― Barack 2 Chainz Obama (some dude), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link