the quietus : the new look

I'm certainly not defending Simon, typically can't stand him, I just think its silly to completely dismiss older pop writers. Some of them are actually good at winding threads through decades of pop and bring an interesting view (obv not the gobshite in question).

i do not for a second believe that that is a 'random sample' unless Stubbs is using a very very specialised definition of 'random'.

haha that wasn't even as bad as i was expecting. how you can write an article like that and not even get anywhere near to the real story of the decade i have no idea - that it's not any genre that's dying, it's the music industry, and that the tabloidism and default to conservatism of pop recently is a consequence of that.

This is OTM really. Incidentally Tom E pointed out elsewhere that the game is given away by his 1982 examples, which are about as safe and indie-friendly examples of "mainstream pop" as you can get.

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On reflection I agree with that, but Stubbs is not offering a fresh prespective other than wishing it was 1982 again. Which is strange considering he spent the late 80s berating older pop writers for wishing it was 1967 again.

Yep, Stubbs' problem is his perspective and his poorly supported assertions not his age (says this late 40 something)

the quietus' end-of-year list is about 4284484578282490323134x better than all the other lists put together. i really underestimated this site! well done doran, luke and the gang. also props for riding for that engineers album! it's great! especially the closing track

hey i don't know who all is involved with this or if y'all post on ILM but i just wanted to dip in and say i really enjoy this site, esp your interviews, and it's a real oasis for me in a world of crappy blogs

keep up the good work, godspeed etc.

Doran posts here

Doran will post a thank you soon, I'm sure! (I've only ever contributed irregularly but every time has been really enjoyable; my brief Six Organs interview remains one of my favorite pieces I've done.)

Best music site on the web, IMO and FWIW

Really?

could we just not do this?

this revive is to give some dap to a good website!

Yeah, sure dude. I just didn't realize ppl were super into the site! Haven't read it in a while.

^ too busy on pitchfork with ilxor

:-)

*bows out of thread*

X-post: Thanks very much for the kind words. I try and keep posting on here and Quietus stuff apart for obvious reasons but that's not to say I don't appreciate the comments... we can feel a bit embattled sometimes, for reasons of access, money, age, sanity, trolling, snippiness etc so it's heartening to hear that some people actually like/read us.

A lot of people on ILX contribute to tQ but I won't list them all here as I can't remember which ones post anonymously, save to say we appreciate all of their contributions - much of which is done for little other than a righteous wish to contribute and help out. I'll leave other people to 'out' themselves if they wish.

I will take this op however to say thanks to Dorian of this parish who gave us a great LCD Soundsystem interview, which is part of our half way through 2010 week of content.

And yeah, Ned's piece on Six Organs was fantastic and one of our most read pieces as well...

Really? Nice! Ben really did all the heavy lifting.

cool interview with keith leblanc

http://thequietus.com/articles/04669-keith-leblanc-interview-sugar-hill

so weird to think the drummer on "rapper's delight" produced pretty hate machine

Well it was down to the Adrian Sherwood connection after all...

this guy again

http://thequietus.com/articles/05156-hip-hop-state-of-the-art-report-end-of-play-2010-2

enclosed: j. cole as a breath of fresh air

opinions aside, this is just god awful writing

I can’t figure out why a lot of rap’s defenders actually love it the more clichéd it gets

again, j. cole, as a breath of fresh air

I think Kulkarni has been a very good writer for a long time.

stick to soccer then

I probably should, my knowledge of hip-hop is lacking :(

i mean

Cos hey, why bother talking about what’s good and why it’s good and why certain things are bad when you can snigger about what’s mediocre and pretend it’s all equally godlike? Fuckin hipster cunts fucking it all up for everyone forever: not to piss on your parade pricks, this rag-mag bullshit’s fine if your life is spent giggling about pop, but for those of us who need it to make life worth living it’s simply not good enough.

except im shit at football too.

is yr name a camus reference?

yeah, but dont expect any words of wisdom.

Cos hey, why bother talking about what’s good and why it’s good and why certain things are bad when you can snigger about what’s mediocre and pretend it’s all equally godlike? Fuckin hipster cunts fucking it all up for everyone forever: not to piss on your parade pricks, this rag-mag bullshit’s fine if your life is spent giggling about pop, but for those of us who need it to make life worth living it’s simply not good enough.

― J0rdan S., Monday, October 25, 2010 8:36 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i liked this post a lot better when i didn't realize this was a quote and i thought you had gone off the deep end

http://i51.tinypic.com/2jbmslk.gif

if i ever type the phrase "fucking hipster cunts" i authorize any mod to permaban me

hope you c&p'd that

otherwise RIP

Fuckin hipster cunts fucking it all up for everyone forever: not to piss on your parade pricks, this rag-mag bullshit’s fine if your life is spent giggling about pop, but for those of us who need it to make life worth living it’s simply not good enough.

sadly, too long to use as screen name.

opinions aside, this is just god awful writing

should be the subtitle on every page of the quietus

Complaints complaints.

Eh, there's plenty of good to great stuff in the quietus.

Kulkarni's hip-hop book is in the library and I always stumble across it when doing research and it is just unbelievably bad.

place his name sounds like a town in scotland

kulkarni's the greatest writer in music journalism today, imho

kulkarni has been good for a long time but this piece is not good at all and should have been a guest post on ich luge bullets

Do some catching up on Big Boi's 'Daddy Fat Sacks'
Do some catching up on Big Boi's 'Daddy Fat Sacks'
Do some catching up on Big Boi's 'Daddy Fat Sacks'
Do some catching up on Big Boi's 'Daddy Fat Sacks'

does dom really not have beef w/ this dude yet

http://thequietus.com/articles/04143-twenty-thoughts-about-love-erykah-badu-s-new-amerykah-part-two

like i love this album too but i cant make it thru a paragraph. editors wanted

http://thequietus.com/articles/04143-twenty-thoughts-about-love-erykah-badu-s-new-amerykah-part-two

like i love this album too but i cant make it thru a paragraph. editors wanted

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:02 AM (4 minutes ago

jesus christ what the fuck is he even saying

his writing is labyrinthine

FOUR. So, no new clichés for a while now. Plenty of topicality, linguistic gimmickry, sharpness, fashion. No style, no real talk, no timelessness. Lies, generalities and gossip , but no truth, about love. Too much judgement and smart-arsedness, as if love isn't way too complicated to merely write through, think through, sing yourself better with. Like bereavement it will put potholes in the pavement for your dumbass facade & give you a reason to tumble down. But most pop about love is now about preparation, redemption, making sure you come out on top, paid, self-pity intact, moving on. Makeover music, self-help music, in pop 2010 there's plenty of knowledge of how emotion looks and can be described, and a total lack of any emotion.

lol @ this para basically being "not enough music is REAL"