LJ try and give an ear to that Teeth of The Sea album, it might do thangs for you - I really like it
― Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh no doubt, Doran. I'm just saying everyone's a hipster to SOMEBODY whether you're trying or not.
Our MO is to cover music for people who are slightly older than the readers of most music websites.)
That's a pretty great mission statement, tbh, and i'm glad someone's out there gunning for the old cranks.
― justin timberlane (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
To be fair, the first batch up to 21 are all on one page. I don't mind clicking for the top 20. The Complex Top 100, however, is out of control. I got bored clicking through the top 100, then got distracted by the Top 100 Girls.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Oops, real link. Beware, it's mind-numbingly addictive, kind of like that Hot Or Not site 10 yrs ago.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:56 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
ooh look it is on spotify what have i become
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe a factor reflecting a more mixed bag NME top 50 is the existence of NME Radio
NME Radiohttp://www.nme.com/radio/playlist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME_Radio
― djmartian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
A Playlist - badly drawn boy.in 2009???
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Also The Bravery.
― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
ha that proves my opinion earlier in this thread
re:
the NME of 2009 reminds me of Select magazine circa 2000, a mixed bag with no distinctive direction
select magazine - best albums of 2000http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/select.html
1. Badly Drawn Boy – The Hour Of Bewilderbeast
― djmartian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Am really liking this, DJ Mencap!
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
2009 consensus
viahttp://www.albumvote.co.uk/albums/best/2009.aspx
1 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz! 3652 Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion 3313 Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest 3194 The Horrors - Primary Colours 3085 Wild Beasts - Two Dancers 2706 Florence and the Machine - Lungs 2447 Manic Street Preachers - Journal for Plague Lovers 2358 Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca 2189 The XX – The XX 21810 Fever Ray - Fever Ray 19911 Fuck Buttons - Tarot Sport 19212 Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix 18413 Arctic Monkeys - Humbug 17614 Wilco - Wilco (The Album) 16915 Bat for Lashes - Two Suns 15416 Doves - Kingdom of Rust 14917 Kasabian – The West Rider Pauper Lunatic Asylum 14918 The Big Pink - A Brief History Of Love 13119 The Low Anthem - Oh My God, Charlie Darwin 11920 Bob Dylan - Together Through Life 11421 La Roux - La Roux 11222 Muse - The Resistance 11023 Madness - The Liberty of Norton Folgate 10824 The Cribs – Ignore the Ignorant 10525 The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart - The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart 10426 Empire of the Sun - Walking on a Dream 10327 Neko Case - Middle Cyclone 10328 Camera Obscura - My Maudlin Career 9729 Jamie T - Kings & Queens 9730 Bill Calahan – Sometimes I Wish I Were An Eagle 9631 Tinariwen - Imidiwan: Companions 9032 Future Of The Left - Travels With Myself And Another 8933 Girls - Album 8734 Passion Pit - Manners 8735 Richard Hawley – Truelove’s Gutter 8636 The Phantom Band – Checkmate Savage 8337 Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You 7838 Sonic Youth - The Eternal 7739 Monsters of Folk - Monsters of Folk 7540 Sunn 0))) – Monoliths And Dimensions 7341 Noah and the Whale - The First Days of Spring 7142 The Decemberists - The Hazards Of Love 7143 The Hidden Cameras - Origin: Orphan 7144 The Twilight Sad - Forget The Night Ahead 6845 The Flaming Lips – Embryonic 6646 Jack Penate - Everything is New 6547 The Maccabees - Wall Of Arms 6448 Jay-Z - The Blueprint 3 6249 U2 - No Line on the Horizon 6250 Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni Ba – I Speak Fula 60
Sources: Q MagazineMojo MagazineUncut MagazineAmazon EditorsThe TimesThe Time New ArtistsmusicOMHNMEPlanet SoundThe Fly
― djmartian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
hang on, how is that albumvote list compiled? show me the maths on that, I'm curious about something
― Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
no idea of how it was compiled, just spotted the link in my RSS reader
― djmartian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Are people seriously rating Florence + the Machine above Neko Case? I like them both, but c'mon.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
they don't seem to say on the site. can't work out if they're just aggregating the placements within various lists, or if they're basing it off the points allotted to the albums on the lists when they came out
(or if it's some weird voting system that they do on the site)
― Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
the logical weighted system for consensus would be 50 points for number 1, 1 point for 50th
― djmartian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ah. the vote button on the site was confusing me
― Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
all the sources so far are mainstream media reflecting the AlbumVote website, they are not interested in Rock-A-Rolla, and the likes of Terrorizer and The Wire
― djmartian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
terrorizer and the wire lists dont usually come out til january.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
that's why i mentioned "the likes of"
To get an idea of the scope of albumvote, their coming soon lists only established / high profile artists
http://www.albumvote.co.uk/albums/prerel.aspx
― djmartian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
the problem with http://www.albumvote.co.uk/albums/best/2009.aspx is the .uk
― justin timberlane (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
7 Manic Street Preachers - Journal for Plague Lovers 235
like find me one american mag that still cares about this crap
― justin timberlane (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
50 Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni Ba – I Speak Fula 60
I've been trying to fins a leak of this to twitter review forever. Internet is scrubbed clean. Could someone hip me to a mediafire link on 77 or something?
― justin timberlane (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
*find*
DJ Mencap, if yr reading, I don't really buy into the term 'post-rock' but this Teeth Of The Sea record is one of the best albums perhaps lying within a certain 'post-rock' discourse that I've heard in years
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Whiney, I think there's a publicist now handling this who might get you a legit download.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
xp yeah parts of it had me thinking of the stuff that got called post-rock before Mogwai etc - nerdy English noodling like Pram and Moonshake - but w/ a load of 70s drug rock thrown in
― Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure anyone in Britain still cares about the Manics, that album appears to be this year's Dig Lazarus Dig.
― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
it certainly isn't noodling - it's pretty damn direct and righteous
(wasn't like Hood and Ganger and that last Slowdive album the predominant sort of British pre-Mogwai post-rock?)
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Hmm, Ganger started about the same time as Mogwai iirc - Hood were around earlier but really obscure before being on Domino (whereupon they became the biggest band in the world etc) and not so much 'post'-anything as weird and fidgety - Slowdive were a thing too I guess
― Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
You mean "England's answer to black metal" Hood?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
decent review, unnecessary neurosis dig, mentions my favourite torche song: http://www.lowcut.dk/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=571:teeth-of-the-sea--orphaned-by-the-ocean&catid=29:album-reviews&Itemid=54
Hood were EBM! I keep saying that. It's still true. I only called them 'post-rock' because that's what everyone said they were. It's a silly term.
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
That was an xpost, btw :D
(yeah noodling isn't the right word... just reading back my review of it and recalling that the olde poste rocke thing is mainly contained in the last track on the album anyway)
― Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
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― curmudgeon, Tuesday, December 8, 2009 1:38 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
who is it?
― famous tuamos (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
rock, paper, scissors
http://www.rockpaperscissors.biz/index.cfm/fuseaction/current.home.cfm
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i work with them a lot; drop me a line and i'll point you at somebody whiney
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
The Quietus 20-120. PJ Harvey & John Parish - A Woman A Man Walked By19. Teeth Of The Sea - Orphaned By The Ocean18. Soap & Skin - Lovetune For Vacuum17. Ben Frost - By The Throat16. Githead - Landing15. British Sea Power - Man Of Aran14. Abouretum - Song Of The Pearl13. Shrinebuilder - Shrinebuilder12. The Flaming Lips - Embryonic11. Fever Ray - Fever Ray10. Cold Cave - Love Comes Close9. Sonic Youth - The Eternal8. Gnaw Their Tongues - All The Dread Magnificence Of Perversity7. Gyratory System - The Sound Board Breathes6. Oneida - Rated O5. Manic Street Preachers - Journal for Plague Lovers4. Wild Beasts - Two Dancers3. The xx - xx2. The Horrors - Primary Colours1. Sunn O))) - Monoliths And Dimensions
― sofatruck, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I saw The Gyratory System live at Offset; they were quite good although I'd imagine better on record. A bit repetitive and noodly in the live sphere.
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I really did not like that Soap & Skin album.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Hood were EBM! I keep saying that. It's still true.
http://www.shout.ru/news/front242_promo2003_01.jpg
Hood, yesterday.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
gyratory system are really good actually.
― dog latin, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
at least, i thought their album was v interesting, in a brazen, experimental way. Others might think it sounds like someone who went mental with the GTA cheat where you can make fire engines fall out the sky.
― dog latin, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Still wanna hear that Ben Frost album.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
me too!
not seeing much love for 'the visitor' :-(
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
me three!
yes, gyratory system ARE much better on record. THANK U SPOFITY
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
actually they kinda rock
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
look at them, caring about processed trumpet rave-ups!
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs204.snc1/7133_638626271040_36910239_40921193_3199476_n.jpg
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm shocked the NME couldn't find room for the Super Furry Animals album, they always have them in no matter what they put out. They even put his solo album in last time. Also really disappointed they missed out The Flaming Lips album.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
nme probably think they cant sell the lips album to the kids
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link