FYI: Truth Attack - All Genres Of Music That Have Ever Existed Contain Awesome Music In Them, And If You Write Off A Whole Genre Of Music You Are Being Closeminded And Dumb

Mozart could do fabulous things a I, a IV, and a V chord. So can Stephin Merritt. They do them in different ways. (W.A.M. is untouchable tho obv)

what's wrong with being 'closeminded' wrt music? assuming you don't make your living in the music business, why should it be seen as a negative trait?

btw the word 'chops' is p funny when u think abt it

Was anyone making a value argument about being open/close minded around music?

see threadtitle, homo

(i didnt read the thread obv)

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lolz Jordan New Orleans is a pretty unique musical environment!

Lindsay asks: "What about third wave ska?"

what's wrong with being 'closeminded' wrt music?

what's wrong with never leaving the country you live in if you have the means to do so?

nothing, as long as you don't go around calling the other countries a load of shit

OTM

what about nazi skinhead music?

regarding the premise of the thread

they could be aesthetically good but morally reprehensible.

I'm sure there is some good nazi skinhead music - racist assholes can't be good musicians?

*sigh* racist assholes tend to let boring polemics overshadow any interesting aesthetics

^^^could be said of any artist who considers politics more important than their art

like wagner?

I don't think that applies to Wagner

how about that burzum dude?

wagner considered his art the most important thing in the universe, surely.

racist assholes tend to let boring polemics overshadow any interesting aesthetics

"like wagner?" was actually in response to this comment

Please show me the awesomeness contained in new age and acid jazz. Thank you in advance.

new age: lotsa Eno, early Deuter, Manuel Gottsching, Steve Roach, Gabrielle Roth, Robert Rich, O Yuki Conjugate, Liz Story, Harold Budd, Philip Perkins, Jon Hassell (especially Aka Darbari Java), maybe some Andrew Deutsch or Jliat if you wanna cross over into drone.

somebody else is gonna have to do acid jazz.

But you say: surely if this were true, it would be common knowledge. Not sure. There are many thing that are true – the state is a parasite on society, private property would solve most social problems, rock music is tedious and stupid – but are nonetheless not generally known or applied.

xpost

All that counts as new age?

have you ever heard any of it? yes it fucking counts.

you can't just define genres to exclude what you actually like, see upthread.

Well then I guess I loooooooooooove new age now. Thanx for the schooling.

I hope 1970s Miles counts as acid jazz.

C'mon Kevin, some of Eno's stuff could TOTALLY be considered new age by someone who isn't terribly concerned by labels - or at the very least, a lot closer to new age than to other enomusic.

...but of course, this is all about the ultimate uselessness of labels.

can this thread explain why there is no JADE WARRIOR thread?

Ha, I remember one time when I was home from college I was playing a Rachel's album and my parents said it sounded like something on Windham Hill.

some of Eno's stuff could TOTALLY be considered new age by someone who isn't terribly concerned by labels - or at the very least, a lot closer to new age than to other enomusic.

I hear ya, MVB. But I think the key idea in your xpost is less "some Eno = new age" than it is "someone who isn't terribly concerned by labels." Because for me, the interesting aspect of genre is feeling out the contexts in which a genre label signifies and then assessing the value of that labeling gesture. And by "value," I don't mean right or wrong but rather frequency. Have enough people understood and referred to Eno as new age in order to make the term valuable (in relation to Eno)? Who calls Eno new age and when? Should someone who isn't terribly concerned by labels determine a genre label? Should Eno be considered new age because On Land is a lot closer to new age than Here Come the Warm Jets is?

And in the fwiw category:

No results found for "eno is so new age"

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for "eno is new age"

But the latter leads to a piece ripping on that notion. Some nuggets:

"new age" music-- an aesthetic scourge (Eno) unintentionally helped to bring into being.

NEWS FLASH:
!!!!BRIAN ENO IS NOT A NEW AGE MUSICIAN!!!!

WHY?
Good question.
Well, because New Age music is political and spiritual. Eno is neither. Eno is neutral.

There's this idea that if something is mellow, and electronic it is somehow "New Age Music."

OTHER ARTISTS
WHO ARE NOT NEW AGE MUSICIANS
AND YET WILL BE FREQUENTLY FOUND
IN THE NEW AGE SECTION:
John Fahey
Tangerine Dream
Ryuichi Sakamoto
Jean Michel Jarre
Robert Fripp
Pete Namlook
David Van Teighem
Penguin Café Orchestra
Philip Glass
John Hassell

No results found for "eno is new age as fuck"

Results 1 - 10 of about 492,000 for eno "new age". (0.12 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 240,000 for "brian eno" "new age"

HOW CAN THESE AMAZING STATISTICS NOT MATCH

Ok go through all those and tell us what they say.

how about u stfu dipshit

Results 1 - 10 of about 17,000,000 for "miles davis" jazz. (0.29 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 116 for "miles davis is jazz".

AS IF A STRANGE PATTERN EMERGING CANT QUITE PUT FINGER ON IT

No results found for "miles davis is acid jazz"

Am I to conclude that, since I left work, there have been TWO HUNDRED clusterfuck Geirbait posts to this godforesaken thread?

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How happy I am that this image, which I love, is from k-punk.

Geir is insane. He is without the ability to reason. He is solipsistic to the extreme. There's no point even treating him like a human being. Has he ever even engaged with anyone on this forum on a personal level? Referred to someone by name during a discussion? Not that I can recall; he just repeats repeats repeats the same things over and over and over again almost completely regardless of context. He's insane. He's an automaton. His opinions seem interesting at first but they're unfounded and didactic and immutable and insane. He makes Carmody look like Jonathan Ross.

I guess we didn't close this thread then...

I guess that as long as he's allowed to derail threads like this such things will continue to happen.

Keep banging your heads against those walls, folks. They might break if you do it enough.