This was a fun listen though D. Fricke is a bit of a Phil Schaap-y creepy fanboy
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 12 December 2009 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link
What other tune is "Ride Into The Sun" reminiscent of? I think it's classical but can't place it. Help!
― krakow, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm listening to it on the Another View compilation, btw, if you want to dig it out & listen.
― krakow, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
dunno what it's reminiscent of ... but it is lovely, isn't it?
This was a fun listen though D. Fricke is a bit of a Phil Schaap-y creepy fanboyHe would fit in perfectly on this thread! David, are you out there?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
oh goddammit this is like one of the most famous classical pieces ever it gets used all the time and I can hear it in my head but I am blanking on the title arrrrrgghghghghghgh
― larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
haha, glad it's not just me, someone will put us out of our misery shortly i'm sure
― krakow, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Pachelbel's Canon?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
YES
― larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess it is kinda like pachelbel's ... Ride Into The Sun would make a good wedding processional, too!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
aha
― krakow, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks mark g
Ride Into The Sun would make a good wedding processional, too!
^^^did this
― larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
(actually it was Bron-y-Aur for the entrance and Ride into the Sun for the exit but whatever)
haha, nice ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
got the New York Art book for xmas -- man, it is gorgeous! i get so used to seeing the VU in black and white, but there are amazing color shots in there, too. Haven't fully explored it yet, but early thoughts: Moe Tucker = hero of the universe.
― tylerw, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
speaking of which, in the 2008 conversation with him and Moe, Lou says he saw all these bands at SXSW with drummers standing up a la Moe. Is this true? I don't think I've heard of many bands doing this recently. I saw the Raveonettes doing it a few years back -- i think the drummer was a hot chick with just a low tom and a snare. But are there others? It is interesting -- for all the talk of the VU being super influential, how many drummers actually played like Moe?
― tylerw, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Mimi in Low plays standing up.
― krakow, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Stray Cats = standing up with vv simple drum set (do they still exist? no idea)Mimi from Low = standing up with vv simple drum setButthole Surfers in the '90s = standing up (two drummers, '80s)Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds = vv simple drum set (but sitting down drummer, late '80s)
― StanM, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost :-)
― StanM, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
er... B surfers = late 80s, early 90s I guess. :-/
ah, right, Low. Probably the best example.
― tylerw, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
saw someone else just recently who does this too...tyvek.
― Trip Maker, Sunday, 27 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
They may have gotten all bright n' paisley by '69 but they were certainly no fans of hippies or West Coast rock of the time
Not really – they shared stages with the Fugs, the Dead, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Sly & the Family Stone &c. As Keenan argues in the review I mentioned upthread, the Velvets were a product of their times and they played their part as wholeheartedly as anyone else.
― anagram, Sunday, 27 December 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
The art book neatly showcases their transition from "art band" to commercial rockers(or at least aspiring commercial rockers), I think. The clash between their art beginnings and their rocker aspirations is one of the things that makes them so classic.
― Trip Maker, Sunday, 27 December 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
in the ny public library talk, David Fricke quotes Dean Wareham as saying that Sterling Morrison was the only person he knew who could hold forth on Moby Dick and Moby Grape with equal knowledge and passion ...
― tylerw, Sunday, 27 December 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Lou says he saw all these bands at SXSW with drummers standing up a la Moe
http://www.slovenly.com/debaucha-reno/subsonics.jpg
Subsonics. And they actually really pull of a VU vibe, complete with minimal instrumentation and crazy psych shredding solos.
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 28 December 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
for all the talk of the VU being super influential, how many drummers actually played like Moe?
― tylerw
i that Fricke interview I think Lou said something to the effect that "nobody can play like Moe" - in a groove type sense, i concur
― pobrecito (outdoor_miner), Monday, 28 December 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
ooh subsonics sound kinda good. and yeah, Lou is effusive in his praise of Moe. He talks about trying to get a drummer to play like her for years, but failing. Would be kind of cool if they played together again -- don't really know if Moe plays at all these days.
― tylerw, Monday, 28 December 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Cowboys vs Eagles game a replay of the one described by Lou on the 1969 album.
― lex submerge (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 January 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Is there a Velvets bootlegs thread? Couldn't find one. Anyhow - just got a hold of the 1969 Hilltop Festival one and it's up there in my top VU boots. Unterberger whetted my appetitie for this one in his book and it doesn't disappoint. Funny to listen to the crowd response to Reed's "This next one's called 'Heroin'" (distant hoots of approval and some giggles) as well as an amazing "Run Run Run" , etc. VU boots are some of my favorite listening right now.
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
yeh hilltop is my fave VU boot, guitar on 'Run Run Run' kills
― zappi, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
there was a smattering of VU bootleg talk in some other VU thread a week or so ago ... Hilltop is definitely great! love that Run Run Run -- Lou shredding at its finest. You might also be interested in this: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/325332296/pre-vu-ive-been-od-ing-on-the-velvet-underground
― tylerw, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
hilltop link please? can't find the site with all the VU stuff that was mentioned. Currently reading the VU + Nico 33 1/3rd book and the Untrberger. Hopefully will get the Kugelberg for xmas! Right now it's all Velvets and Devo all the time. Strangely the Devo kick started prior to the recent thread revivals.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
thenunsareontheseawall.blogspot.comshould have the Hilltop show somewhere ... and everything else!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Favourite Velvet Underground album (with extra facility) right here.
― kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Run Run Run To The Hills
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
interesting that the VU were headlining over Van Morrison at the Hilltop Festival ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
fella over at thevelvetforum.tk has posted some innnnnteresting upgrades on the Boston Tea Party shows ... Just look at the thread called "professor tapes" ...
― tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Whoa! The "Professor Tapes" are leaving me speechless. Fantastic!
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 February 2010 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, as they note, all of these recordings circulate, but the quality here is (for the most part) waaay better. January show in particular sounds great ... Hope they get it together to get the complete shows out there ...
― tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
wow. Thanks for the heads up & fingers crossed indeed!
― StanM, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Meanwhile, though, someone is still sitting on those Matrix tapes. :-(
― StanM, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Droooollllll.......
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
heard they're re-ishing Live 1969 on vinyl ... not terribly exciting. Wonder what it would take to get the Velvets bootleg series going again? Thought for sure that the Gymnasium tape would get an official release. But noooooo.
― tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
as usual I blame LOU REED
― sleeve, Friday, 19 February 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
he's afraid that releasing VU live shows will distract from his thriving iphone app business.
― tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Legit fear.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 February 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
funny though, over on that velvet forum they're talking about getting Easy Action or Captain trip to release the tapes ... is that possible? Could they do it legit w/o Lou or the band's approval? How does this stuff work anyway? What goes on in your mind?
― tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty sure that you cannot do that legally.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 February 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
what if you just didn't mention it to Lou.
― tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link