Neil Young's "Ditch Trilogy" Poll

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I kinda instinct voted OTB right off, but an hour and one TFA re-listen later I was ready to finally make the switch. LA and title track were killing me.

"I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Monday, 14 December 2009 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I voted Tonight. On the Beach is amazing, but most often I just listen to the 2nd side. Tonight I want to hear the whole thing straight through.

Mark, Monday, 14 December 2009 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link

LA is incredible.

ian, Monday, 14 December 2009 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link

results are hilarious. Laughable that 'Tonight's the Night' didn't win this. Absolutely laughable. Hipsters are cute but ultimately there for source of ridicule.

This poll means about as much as the shit I took ... anyway, I'm gonna pour myself a glass of wine and work practice the chords on 'Mellow My Mind' and 'Albuquerque' again, good job on "discovering" 'On The Beach', ILX. My mint LP cost me exactly one dollar from the Reckless Records in Lakeview on Broadway in '96, maybe? nobody cared about that record. anyway, you youngsters are cute

Stormy Davis, Monday, 14 December 2009 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i always liked on the beach but man, tonight's the night is like the royal scam gone darker and more country and minus the humor to lighten the mood and with the added grimness of the fact that the dead guys and the drug burnouts are neil young's personal friends.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Monday, 14 December 2009 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link

right on, Omar ... so true, it's kinda like 'On the Beach' is almost a parody of 'Tonight's the Night' when I really think about it. Like, Neil wanted to self-consciously TOP IT's vibe, or something. Anyway, I love both records, but if you actually look at songwriting and so forth, there is no question that 'Tonight's the Night' was a herculean effort. I mean, yeah it's easy to smoke up and put on 'On the Beach', but come on..

Stormy Davis, Monday, 14 December 2009 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link

but yeah, this is just ILX stuff, i pay it no mind. everybody knows that 'Tonight's The Night' is the classic Neil LP..

Stormy Davis, Monday, 14 December 2009 06:14 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway, you youngsters are cute ― Stormy Davis

ya talkin to me?

t**t, Monday, 14 December 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Stormy's always picking on youngsters!

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2009 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link

ol reliable

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Monday, 14 December 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link

youngster hipsters like me and scott seward prefer on the beach haha

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 14 December 2009 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link

as do/did i. ha.

t**t, Monday, 14 December 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, Stormy, I don't wanna rain on your parade too much, I enjoy a bit of self-rightousness as much as the next folk, but here goes:

Glad I could skew this towards OTB.

I am not young, I had a cassette copy of that record forever (as well as Tonight's the Night) and had a whole lot of trouble finding a copy of OTB for a reasonable price, but I was certainly no record-hound fanatic or pro, just tried stores for a long time before finding a decent copy to buy (this was 90s pre-internet era). I was listening to Tonight's the Night a bunch right before I saw this poll as well, great great album, but ... I would take On the Beach any day of the week. Just what I would rather listen to if forced to choose. Project upon us OTBers all you will, of course, wouldn't be much fun if someone didn't get all ornery in here. Just wish I could force all music discussions for the next 6 months at least to refrain from the hipster-speak. It's lazy and boring.

grandavis, Monday, 14 December 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

http://stuffthatmoves.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/andy_rooney.jpg

tylerw, Monday, 14 December 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ i think he voted for Time Fades Away, btw

tylerw, Monday, 14 December 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Try to get back by eight
(or preferably seven so you can catch 60 Minutes)

Euler, Monday, 14 December 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i am young and maybe a hipster and my favorite neil album is comes a time so fuck you guys <3

ian, Monday, 14 December 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

See Stormy, blame us over the hill farts! We suck, not the youth.

grandavis, Monday, 14 December 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm grizzled and old (at least here) and voted for On The Beach. It's not like the others suck or something; as I said upthread it's my favorite period of Neil by leaps and bounds.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 December 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

it's cool guys, like EZ Snappin says above, I adore all of these records. just real cognitive dissonance that OTB wins. I dunno. LOVE it. but it's more of a mind spiel record from Neil than the precise, jaw-dropping songwriting from Neil on 'Tonight's the Night' ( I guess I may be the new Geir, I dunno), however drunkenly delivered .. (oh yeah, this is what makes me *not* Geir in that I am so in awe of Neil's chordal choices/songwriting on 'Tonight's the Night" while simultaneously delivering the whole package as this wasted, drunken romp. I dunno. Nothing can match it's vibe. and OTB really does seem a smidgen mannered, after the initial blow of TNT)

Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh please, fuck this stupid "Tonight's the Night is like a darker Royal Scam" bullshit.

I bought Tonight's the Night having read all the reviews about how brilliant and "harrowing" it was. It is -- but not remotely in any way that you'd expect, and as a result, took me forever to appreciate. There probably isn't a single "tune" on it that's up there with his best. You'd have no idea that the title track became what it did live on Live Rust. Songs that begin promising ("Borrowed Tune" starts off like it's about to be the next After the Gold Rush) end up so bleary-eyed and raw they become something else entirely -- not singer-songwriter intimate, but uncomfortably intimate and borderline embarrassing. As the artwork indicates, it really is some stoned dude on stage saying, "I got somethin' to say..." And so he does.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't find anything embarassing on tonight's the night. the songs are amazing, stormy otm pretty much. i like on the beach tho.

i am old btw

velko, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link

child please

xpost

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 06:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I bought Tonight's the Night having read all the reviews about how brilliant and "harrowing" it was. It is -- but not remotely in any way that you'd expect, and as a result, took me forever to appreciate. There probably isn't a single "tune" on it that's up there with his best.

Jesus.

This poll result is soooooooooo ILM.

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Just bought TFA at the weekend - the title track and LA are so great.

sonofstan, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm arguing on *behalf* of TTN, dude, not suggesting TTN isn't all it's cracked up to be. I just mean that its power isn't so much in its craftsmanship (or what we normally think of as craftsmanship -- melodies, etc.) as much as its blown out aesthetic (which suggests its own craftsmanship, of course). I mean, by comparison On the Beach sounds as if it features Tom Scott and Steve Gadd.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, I get that.

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

all three are great records. i'd put time fades away just below tonight's the night for sentimental reasons, and for the sake of objectivity i guess because it was such a personal artistic watershed for neil (no tunes? really?), he followed its reprise-the-opening track gambit on his second overall best album, rust never sleeps, and his comeback album after his bullshit 80s synth drek, freedom. really don't get how anyone could like on the beach even close to as much as the other two, but still it's a great album and a big world out there

kamerad, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Neil Young Recordings

App made by Jack M. Clark using Gift Creator

1. Choose a gift to send:
(click on images to view full size)

Hawks And Doves

sent: 365

Live Rust
sent: 368

Rust Never Sleeps
sent: 860

Comes A Time
sent: 470

Decade
sent: 444

American Stars'n'Bars
sent: 249

Long May You Run
sent: 595

Zuma
sent: 598

Tonight's The Night
sent: 560

On The Beach
sent: 1,069

Time Fades Away
sent: 346

Journey Through The Past
sent: 220

Harvest
sent: 1,357

Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
sent: 704

Neil Young
sent: 446

2. Now pick friends to give it to

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

You can't argue with science

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

surely those results have more to do with OTB previously being way more UNAVAILABLE than any of those other ones

Magnolia Caboose Babyfinger (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Not when applied to Facebook apps.

x-post

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

facebook users harbor pent-up demand for an album that's been widely available for 6 years now

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't get it! what does this app do?

tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

It makes little replicas of the album appear on the wall of the person you send it to. Just another little gift app that people waste time with.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

neil hand delivers copies of the albums to your friends

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Unless you ask to send Time Fades Away, which causes him to come to your house and confiscate any vinyl or MP3s of said album in your possession.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

that was a bug, it's working now

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

btw i've been a longtime user of the neil gift app!!! it is good for getting chicks.

ian, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

chicks are always impressed with facebook gift app prowess iirc ... mix it w/ a healthy knowledge of Neil Young bootlegs and you are good to go.

tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

off topic, but the other facebook gift app that the ladies love is "electroacoustic music gifts."

ian, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Totally on topic, as it is the season to give.

grandavis, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

How does Zuma fit into this discussion? It rocks a little harder, but still has the same burned out vibe as Tonight's the Night and On the Beach.

Chonus, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Zuma is the I'm-single-and-loving-it album. He's over the malaise.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i love Zuma, and it's patchwork nature, with CSNY harmonies and Crazy Horse jams on the same record. wonder if that bugged crosby.

mizzell, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Zuma is my favourite NY album

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

was just talking to friend who thought that Zuma should be grouped in with the previous three albums. I think the main difference is in the guitar playing -- Zuma's where we get our first real glimpse of what "Neil Young" guitar playing would be. Not that he hadn't played plenty of lead guitar beforehand, but Zuma's got those big wind-blown solos that would become his trademark.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

And those chunk-a-chunk chords.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, totally -- but lyrically, it is as "down" as many of those ditch records ...

tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

He was hardly Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky before that

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link


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