i am young and maybe a hipster and my favorite neil album is comes a time so fuck you guys <3
― ian, Monday, 14 December 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
See Stormy, blame us over the hill farts! We suck, not the youth.
― grandavis, Monday, 14 December 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm grizzled and old (at least here) and voted for On The Beach. It's not like the others suck or something; as I said upthread it's my favorite period of Neil by leaps and bounds.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 December 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
it's cool guys, like EZ Snappin says above, I adore all of these records. just real cognitive dissonance that OTB wins. I dunno. LOVE it. but it's more of a mind spiel record from Neil than the precise, jaw-dropping songwriting from Neil on 'Tonight's the Night' ( I guess I may be the new Geir, I dunno), however drunkenly delivered .. (oh yeah, this is what makes me *not* Geir in that I am so in awe of Neil's chordal choices/songwriting on 'Tonight's the Night" while simultaneously delivering the whole package as this wasted, drunken romp. I dunno. Nothing can match it's vibe. and OTB really does seem a smidgen mannered, after the initial blow of TNT)
― Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh please, fuck this stupid "Tonight's the Night is like a darker Royal Scam" bullshit.
I bought Tonight's the Night having read all the reviews about how brilliant and "harrowing" it was. It is -- but not remotely in any way that you'd expect, and as a result, took me forever to appreciate. There probably isn't a single "tune" on it that's up there with his best. You'd have no idea that the title track became what it did live on Live Rust. Songs that begin promising ("Borrowed Tune" starts off like it's about to be the next After the Gold Rush) end up so bleary-eyed and raw they become something else entirely -- not singer-songwriter intimate, but uncomfortably intimate and borderline embarrassing. As the artwork indicates, it really is some stoned dude on stage saying, "I got somethin' to say..." And so he does.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't find anything embarassing on tonight's the night. the songs are amazing, stormy otm pretty much. i like on the beach tho.
i am old btw
― velko, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link
child please
xpost
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 06:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I bought Tonight's the Night having read all the reviews about how brilliant and "harrowing" it was. It is -- but not remotely in any way that you'd expect, and as a result, took me forever to appreciate. There probably isn't a single "tune" on it that's up there with his best.
Jesus.
This poll result is soooooooooo ILM.
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Just bought TFA at the weekend - the title track and LA are so great.
― sonofstan, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm arguing on *behalf* of TTN, dude, not suggesting TTN isn't all it's cracked up to be. I just mean that its power isn't so much in its craftsmanship (or what we normally think of as craftsmanship -- melodies, etc.) as much as its blown out aesthetic (which suggests its own craftsmanship, of course). I mean, by comparison On the Beach sounds as if it features Tom Scott and Steve Gadd.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
OK, I get that.
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
all three are great records. i'd put time fades away just below tonight's the night for sentimental reasons, and for the sake of objectivity i guess because it was such a personal artistic watershed for neil (no tunes? really?), he followed its reprise-the-opening track gambit on his second overall best album, rust never sleeps, and his comeback album after his bullshit 80s synth drek, freedom. really don't get how anyone could like on the beach even close to as much as the other two, but still it's a great album and a big world out there
― kamerad, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Neil Young Recordings
App made by Jack M. Clark using Gift Creator
1. Choose a gift to send:(click on images to view full size) Hawks And Doves
sent: 365
Live Rustsent: 368
Rust Never Sleepssent: 860
Comes A Timesent: 470
Decadesent: 444
American Stars'n'Barssent: 249
Long May You Runsent: 595
Zumasent: 598
Tonight's The Nightsent: 560
On The Beachsent: 1,069
Time Fades Awaysent: 346
Journey Through The Pastsent: 220
Harvestsent: 1,357
Everybody Knows This Is Nowheresent: 704
Neil Youngsent: 446
2. Now pick friends to give it to
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
You can't argue with science
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
surely those results have more to do with OTB previously being way more UNAVAILABLE than any of those other ones
― Magnolia Caboose Babyfinger (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Not when applied to Facebook apps.
x-post
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
facebook users harbor pent-up demand for an album that's been widely available for 6 years now
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't get it! what does this app do?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
It makes little replicas of the album appear on the wall of the person you send it to. Just another little gift app that people waste time with.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
neil hand delivers copies of the albums to your friends
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Unless you ask to send Time Fades Away, which causes him to come to your house and confiscate any vinyl or MP3s of said album in your possession.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
that was a bug, it's working now
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
btw i've been a longtime user of the neil gift app!!! it is good for getting chicks.
― ian, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
chicks are always impressed with facebook gift app prowess iirc ... mix it w/ a healthy knowledge of Neil Young bootlegs and you are good to go.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
off topic, but the other facebook gift app that the ladies love is "electroacoustic music gifts."
― ian, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Totally on topic, as it is the season to give.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
How does Zuma fit into this discussion? It rocks a little harder, but still has the same burned out vibe as Tonight's the Night and On the Beach.
― Chonus, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma is the I'm-single-and-loving-it album. He's over the malaise.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i love Zuma, and it's patchwork nature, with CSNY harmonies and Crazy Horse jams on the same record. wonder if that bugged crosby.
― mizzell, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma is my favourite NY album
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
was just talking to friend who thought that Zuma should be grouped in with the previous three albums. I think the main difference is in the guitar playing -- Zuma's where we get our first real glimpse of what "Neil Young" guitar playing would be. Not that he hadn't played plenty of lead guitar beforehand, but Zuma's got those big wind-blown solos that would become his trademark.
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
And those chunk-a-chunk chords.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, totally -- but lyrically, it is as "down" as many of those ditch records ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
He was hardly Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky before that
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link
true
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
isn't Zuma the only one with just Crazy Horse?
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
(out of the four I mean)
Tonight's The Night is Crazy Horse
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but it's got Nils and stuff on it. . . I dunno. Zuma seems like a separate thing to me!
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma is Crazy Horse. TTN has Nils Lofgren, Ben Keith, David Briggs on it?
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma is the first with Frank Sampredo
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma's the only one credited to Crazy Horse ... and even that has CSNY and a recording from previous sessions ... It's funny - most of the Crazy Horse records are actually hodgepodges ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
they're all hodgepodges
time fades away has stuff from '71 on it, "l.a." was written in the late 60s
the TTN acetate from '73 has "winterlong", "walk on" and "for the turnstiles" on it
"don't cry no tears" from zuma had been kicking around for a decade, and he played "pardon my heart" at the 74 bottom line show, which is mostly TTN and OTB material
the 3 proper ditch albums are as different from each other as they are from zuma, so the demarcations aren't really clear, and are in fact pretty artificial
it's almost like neil would just record and record and record, making compilations of his own stuff, trying out different arrangements of things, rather than go into the studio with a set of songs to record and release
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
"walk on" sounds like it could fit right on TTN
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
it was actually from the Harvest era, right?
― mizzell, Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
wiki says "see the sky about to rain" was harvest-era, not sure about "walk on"
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
that's what i was thinking of.
― mizzell, Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link
"walk on" sounds like it could fit right on TTNSo does "For the Turnstiles."
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 December 2009 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 18 December 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
The three records, along with Zuma, are in a class of their own. But can anyone suggest artists or albums that approximate the same burned out vibe?
― Chonus, Monday, 21 December 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link