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― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link
B&S is HUGE red herring here, folks.
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Three seconds too much amirite?!? xpost
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
The Brigadier has a point, I recommend instead listen to The Mirimar Disaster from Sheffield who in 2007 released the best British complex-intense-math-metal album since Earthtone 9 - arc'tan'gent in 2000.
The Mirimar Disaster http://www.myspace.com/themirimardisaster
― djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
the best British complex-intense-math-metal album since Earthtone 9 - arc'tan'gent in 2000
so say the flyposters
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Why do people even care about this joke of a prize?
Mercury,Brits,NME,Kerrang Awards , don't need any of them. Fuck them all.
-- Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy
Haven't you been posting end of year polls from all these for months?
― onimo, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
But yeah, hats off to DiS for getting to heart of the matter of these things; it doesn't matter whether your 'alternatives' are better or more innovative, just that they're different to the ones that actually got nominated
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Damn - what a sorry list. Wouldn't this money be better spent on black magic to resurrect Freddie Mercury?
― BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Who wants to live forever?
― onimo, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
ha I remember reading last year on the web some wacky yank journo thought that the Mercury awards were named have Freddie Mercury ! (When they were originally sponsored by a now long gone telecommunications company.)
― djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Some wacky Welsh based journo writing about the Mercury prize 2007 shortlist, this article is so unintentionally funny:
http://tinyurl.com/2g37ff Does Mercury Prize leave you feeling old?
Jul 18 2007
by Sarah Miloudi, Western Mail
― djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
home is where the harp is!
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Haha, Huw Stephens pretending he's only heard of 'most' of the noms aside from tokenclassicalers
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder if Chair of judges Simon Frith remembers writing this in 1985?
"What really drives student entrepreneurs into a premature commercial detachment is their audiences. Every new ents officer learns from first-term results; black music has no student draw; known bands are preferred to unknown bands; no one in the student union cares who the latest critical cult figures are. Students are the great, middle-class, middle-brow bastion of British rock and, after twenty years, their tastes aren't about to be shaken."
Probably not...
The weird thing about the Mercury prize is that they don't get different judges every time. This year is Lauren Laverne's 2nd go-round at least and someone else, whose name I've annoyingly forgotten, has done it FOUR times!
― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Edith Bowman?
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I enjoyed Terry Hall at Glastonbury too. I thought it was going to be a real Specials-obsessed festival at one point, with Winehouse and Allen both doing Specials songs, but that was it, as far as I know.
― PJ Miller, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
the thing with that frith quote is: OK, but who *does* care about the latest critical cult figures? if students are the m-c, m-b bastion blah blah blah, who is the avant-garde? wire readers i guess. seems to be people older than students with more disposable income, in their own way just as conformist.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Frith wrote that in 1985. I guess things have changed for him since. And everyone else.
― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Oops, I laready said he wrote it in 1985. That's coz I use the bookmark feature and so cannot see beyond the last post marked.
Winehouse will walk it this year.
― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
597 please will you shutfuckup
― whatever, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link
); I'm just a rascal.
― 597, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, Amy Winehouse did two of them in a row (unless you don't count Monkey Man), and Neville Staple played a set too. So yes, I think it was quite Specials. Madness played a secret gig on The Park stage too, apparently.
― Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
I just reminded myself of all the previous Mercury winners. Amy Winehouse's Back To Black is better than all the albums that have won in the last 10 years, anyway. I hope she will win. Think she might well do, too.
― Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link
597, soz: x-reading over other threads.
mercury prize: the gift that keeps giving again?
― whatever, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link
fucking hell, alba, really?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Amy Winehouse's Back To Black is better than all the albums that have won in the last 10 years, anyway
xpost blimey, i was just about to hit the sack before i saw that cracker. she's rubbish, but that won't stop her winning. it hasn't for the majority of previous winners.
― whatever, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link
i've quite liked her last three singles. i wouldn't buy them or anything.
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
before you laugh, look at what's won :/
(winehouse is better than all but...one or two of the past decade's winners? dizzee definitely, pj...maaaaaybe but that's pj's worst album. ms dynamite is better at her best but that album is not great.)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link
dizzee, pj, roni size are better.
it's true there's been a lot of shit winning... she'll only add to the pile though. being better than gomez and arctic monkeys is not a great achievement.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
(winehouse is better than all but...one or two of the past decade's winners?
noooo
― whatever, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link
she just so booorrring
― whatever, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link
i think her only problem is she's TOO retro/tribute musically and they should be rewarding something more "modern sounding". i'd say the same about the AMs tho.
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I really liked the Klaxons singles but the album got old. I'm guessing their popularity peaked already. Winehouse has talent but material on album is spotty. Aside from Milanese, the UK stuff I've been enjoying is pretty poppy. Just saw Maxïmo Park on Monday, and it was far, far more enjoyable than my Pitchfork experience. Very high energy, everyone singing along.
Milanese - Extend Maxïmo Park - Our Earthly Pleasures The Rakes - Ten New Messages Field Music - Tones Of Town Good Shoes - Think Before You Speak Noisettes - What's The Time Mr. Wolf? The Twilight Sad - Fourteen Autumns & Fifteen Winters
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Judges, nicked from elsewhere:
Simon Frith - music author/Professor of Music at University of Edinburgh Charles Hazlewood - conductor and broadcaster on Radio 2, Radio 3 and BBC 4 Lauren Laverne - broadcaster, The Culture Show and Channel 4’s Transmission Conor McNicholas - Editor of NME George Ergatoudis - Head of Music, Radio 1 Dean Jackson – Presenter The Beat BBC Nottingham Arwa Haider - Music Editor, Metro/Front Row contributor Zoe Rahman - jazz musician Mark Findlay - Head of Music, GCAP’s The One Network Jude Rogers - Reviews Editor, Word Magazine/New Statesman/The Guardian
― Raw Patrick, Friday, 20 July 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Not that anyone here might have any vested interests... No sir, Conor and George.
― Raw Patrick, Friday, 20 July 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link
anyone had a flutter? do you usually?
like most people on here i guess, i've been right about half the time with the winners over the years, and in the talvin singh / pj harvey years could have won a flippin fortune! but i've never bet on it.
how's about you guys?
― pisces, Thursday, 23 August 2007 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm currently thinking Bat For Lashes, but 5/2 (joint favourite with Amy Winehouse) isn't really worth it*. If Winehouse can pull off a massive recovery she might win, maybe all her gig-cancelling is to try and lengthen her odds?
current odds from Bet365: Amy Winehouse - Back to Black 5/2 Bat For Lashes - Fur and Gold 5/2 Jamie T - Panic Prevention 3/1 Klaxons - Myths of the Near Future 9/1 Arctic Monkeys - Favourite Worst Nightmare 9/1 Fionn Regan - The End of History 10/1 Maps - We Can Create 14/1 The View - Hats off to the Buskers 22/1 New Young Pony Club - Fantastic Playroom 25/1 The Young Knives - Voices of Animals and Men 28/1 Dizzee Rascal - Maths and English 40/1 Basquiat Strings with Seb Rochford - Basquiat Strings 40/1
*I know nothing about betting.
― Bocken Social Scene, Thursday, 23 August 2007 10:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Maps is a good bet.
That Bat for Lashes album is terrible.
― Raw Patrick, Thursday, 23 August 2007 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link
It's better than the Maps album.
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 23 August 2007 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link
they're both very bad albums
― pft, Thursday, 23 August 2007 10:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Not heard the Maps. That NYPC album is so unbelievably boring. And how did they pick the wrong Seb Rochford record? I bet Skinny Grin wasn't even entered bcz of V2 meltdown.
― Raw Patrick, Thursday, 23 August 2007 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Who is Fionn Regan?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 23 August 2007 10:50 (sixteen years ago) link
I quite like the Bat For Lashes song with the video with the bikes. I don't actually like any of these albums, (although I haven't heard Regan, Young Knives or Basquiat - and that's the only one I'd like to hear, I think).
― Bocken Social Scene, Thursday, 23 August 2007 10:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Irishy singer-songwriter type.
― Raw Patrick, Thursday, 23 August 2007 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link
The Basquiat is nice, aye, a good record, but Skinny Grin is some other-level evenmt stuff, there. If they'd picked that and had the guts to make it win they'd have saved the world from nuclear holocaust.
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 23 August 2007 10:58 (sixteen years ago) link
9/1 for the arctic monkeys?! that's nuts surely?
― pisces, Thursday, 23 August 2007 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link
klaxons down to £3 in sainsburys. woolworths not stocking mia's kala.
― acrobat, Thursday, 23 August 2007 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link
same band winning two years in a row damaging credibility further is the fear there (xp)
― blueski, Thursday, 23 August 2007 11:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Nothing says credibility like Bat for fucking Lashes
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 23 August 2007 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Whinehouse to win shurely.
― SeekAltRoute, Thursday, 23 August 2007 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link