NE-YO v THE DREAM

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alfred doesnt actually like the album, he likes "traxxx"!!!

Ha! When you're a critic, contribute to year-end lists, drink the Kool-Aid, etc, you can't waste time learning to love perfectly average songs, brah.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link

wtf is wrong liking the songs that are unrepresentative of album the most!? i just mean in general, not just this particular example.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, May 1, 2008 3:09 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i dont mean there's anything wrong w/ it in general, just 'rong' in the lol opinions sense that what im getting from this album is a vibe that isnt really hitting with him

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

'nikki' is great! that whole stretch is the heart of the record

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha! When you're a critic, contribute to year-end lists, drink the Kool-Aid, etc, you can't waste time learning to love perfectly average songs, brah.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, May 1, 2008 3:11 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

'luv songs' =/= 'perfectly average'

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

It's ok. I'm pretty sure you and I don't share sexual preferences either.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

what does that have to do with liking luv songs

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

alfred doesnt like tits or 'luv songs', which is o_O in an 'opinions are like assholes' sense

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

okay guys I have a question.

"the american dream. mmhmm. and you know what I mean.."

what does he mean?

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Loving tits and assholes without fear of reprisal.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

It's ok. I'm pretty sure you and I don't share sexual preferences either.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, May 1, 2008 4:16 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

what does that have to do with liking luv songs

-- J0rdan S., Thursday, May 1, 2008 4:17 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Alfred does this "oh I guess that's a record for you STRAIGHT people" thing all the time, I don't really get it either.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm not straight either and i jam "luv songs" so im doubly wtf

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

dude, all I said was a variant on different-strokes-for-different-folks.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

it doesn't read that way though

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Alfred does this "oh I guess that's a record for you STRAIGHT people" thing all the time

Yes, ALL THE TIME. Plz to post every time sexuality's come up when I discuss music in print or on ILM.

(I'm enjoying the teasing, but c'mon)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

when its yes a great track but not really a standout in an album full of standouts, i think maybe part of my problem is it sounds like when someone picks up on a single track like that that they aren't actually checking for the rest of the record

"Livin' a Lie" and "Ditch That..." were definitely my gateways into this album thanks to Rich Juzwiak's House of RnB mix. I agree that they're the least representative tracks on the album (well, besides "Mama"!) but they're also the most immediate. They were reason enough for me to buy the album.

Ranking these tracks is not easy!

Luv Songs
Livin' a Lie
Fast Car
Falsetto
Purple Kisses
Ditch That
Playin' in Her Hair
Shawty is Da Shit
I Luv Your Girl
She Needs My Love
Nikki
Mama

lou, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm not straight either and i jam "luv songs"
^^^^^^^

lou, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

(I'm enjoying the teasing, but c'mon)

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, May 1, 2008 4:28 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

see, you're bringing homosex into it again!

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

does anyone like "Mama"? To me that's the only totally blah tune.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i think it's okay but by the time it comes on im ready to move on to something else or replay other songs on the album. if it was like the 6th track or w/e i'd let it play through tho

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link

whoa this got different quick

anyway, "Livin A Lie" is my second worst song on the album, I pretty much love them all though and can;t really distinguish that well between most of them...it is definitely an Album to me

and yeah the two songs at the end drag it down a bit

PoMXII, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost I'm glad it's at the end so I can start it over

PoMXII, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Luv Songs
Falsetto
Fast Car
Livin A Lie
Purple Kisses
I Luv Ur Girl
Playin In Her Hair
Nikki
Ditch That
She Needs My Love
Shawty is Da Shit
Mama

or something like that. Every song is great though pretty much.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

j0rdan otm about mama

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

it's weird cuz i think if livin a lie/mama were in the middle of the album i'd be like "well this album is really great except it's got these two average songs" but w/ the tracklisting the way it is i like forget they exist sometimes and finish the album @ luv songs thinking "A++++ album" in my head

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

re: "Mama"- I don't hate it. It's just awkward after listening to lines like "She keep them thongs chewin' on her asshole".

lou, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

lol yeah, it's like that last song on T-pain's Epiphany album, "Sounds Bad" . An emotional ballad after all of the party tracks is just kind of weird.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't believe you guys aren't feeling "nikki" and "shawty is the shit" more

PoMXII, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I like shawty is the shit, I just never listen to it because I got burnt out on it before the album was released.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

and I prefer the edited "shawty is a 10" version w/o fabolous.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

'shawty' was in my top 5 singles last year and imo 'nikki' is just surrounded by a bunch of better songs so it kinda pales in comparison

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah i rarely listen to it anymore either except i prefer the 'shawty is a ten' version with fabolous

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

does anyone like "Mama"? To me that's the only totally blah tune.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, May 1, 2008 3:35 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i love this song. must be a straight guy thing

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

and I prefer the edited "shawty is a 10" version w/o fabolous.

-- The Brainwasher, Thursday, May 1, 2008 3:46 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

this is the incorrect opinion to have

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

fabo's verse is awesome-- he's not a great rapper anymore (ever?) by any means but he's kind of the perfect dude for songs like these

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

i.e. "dip it low" remix

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

lol yeah, it's like that last song on T-pain's Epiphany album, "Sounds Bad" . An emotional ballad after all of the party tracks is just kind of weird.

-- The Brainwasher, Thursday, May 1, 2008 4:42 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

"Sounds Bad" is by far one of my favorites on the album! and it's still pretty midtempo and silly (he says "frigidator"), I think "Suicide" is a much bigger disruption to the tone of the rest of the album.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Luv Songs
Falsetto
Playin In Her Hair
She Needs My Love
Shawty is Da Shit
Fast Car
Purple Kisses
Nikki
Mama
Livin A Lie
Ditch That
I Luv Ur Girl

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

does anyone like "Mama"? To me that's the only totally blah tune.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, May 1, 2008 3:35 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i love this song. must be a straight guy thing

-- deej, Thursday, May 1, 2008 8:51 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Nah, us queers are all mama's boys. ;)

lou, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

the intro of "Shawty" worked way better on the original, the added Fab verse kinda steps all over it.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

but basically nikki on up is all around the same level xxp

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Luv Songs - Falsetto - Playin In Her Hair - She Needs My Love - Shawty is Da Shit- Fast Car - Purple Kisses - Nikki
Mama
Livin A Lie
Ditch That
I Luv Ur Girl

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i would switch 'i luv your girl' and 'nikki' but otherwise i think deej is otm

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

and out of all those the only one im actually zzz on is 'i luv ur girl'

deej, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

does the Fab version even have that first "shawty rock to the beat for ya boy" bit before the beat kicks in? I can't remember but I don't think it does. (xpost)

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Are they going to make "Livin' a Lie" a single or what?

lou, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost yeah, it's the r kelly version that doesn't have that part.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

does the Fab version even have that first "shawty rock to the beat for ya boy" bit before the beat kicks in? I can't remember but I don't think it does. (xpost)

-- Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, May 1, 2008 3:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

yeah then fab goes "it's loso in case you ain't know so"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

why do you hate "i luv ur girl" so much deej lol

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost yeah, it's the r kelly version that doesn't have that part.

-- The Brainwasher, Thursday, May 1, 2008 3:57 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

obviously the best version of all

PoMXII, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

"I Luv Your Girl" is just starting to climb, so if there is a 4th single it probably won't be for a while.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link


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