malkmus PIG LIB: 1% of one

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by way of early todd rundgren

i have a specific song in mind here -- "we gotta get you a woman" from runt (the song that starts "leeeeroy, boy, is that you?").

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, I should mention that one of the songs, the one I call "Daddy" but others call (inexplicably) "Face The Truth," is probably one of the best songs he's ever written.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago) link

Ray, going on the songs I know, you're probably in for a disappointment. He's definitely going for a cleaner sound.

It is getting more proggy, though, but only so much. It's not fucking Rush or Yes, it's more like...Pig Lib.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

I'm torn....I think Pig Lib is way way better an album than his s/t solo debut, but part of me wishes he could do like Paul Westerburg and release two different records, one of proglove and one of his nu-Steely Dan story songs like Jenny and the Ess Dog and Us and Vanessa...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

That'd still do me fine, Matthew. Just as long as it doesn't sound like BTC.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

M@tt: At once?

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

Like Speakerboxx./Love Below baby!

Speaking of two-disc Malk....I got the one that had a bonus disc of b-sides (I'm assuming some of you have it)....Was I the only one that thought "Dynamic Calories" would have been one of the highlights of Pig Lib? I have no idea why they didn't sub that for the Craw Song, which I still hate.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

The songs on the bonus disc...I think they sort of belonged there, as they were good but didn't suit the mood of the album, which was sorta dark, while "Dynamic" and "Fractions" were lighter. The other stuff was a tad too messy for the album.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago) link

"Old Jerry" would have worked fine on the record.

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

"Old Jerry" really should have been on Pig Lib. I think it's one of his best songs, and better than everything on Pig Lib except for "Water and a Seat" and "Oyster."

I don't get the dislike of BTC. I adore that record. Most of it was better live, though.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

"Dynamic Calories" is a fantastic song -- while Pig Lib took a while to grow on me, I liked "DC" immediately. But yeah, it def. has a different feel; if you just played me the first few seconds, I'd have thought it was The Biz-era The Sea and Cake.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

Wowee Zowee is the overrated one.

Hmmm, I thought conventional wisdom was that it's Pavement's only misstep, too self-consciously wacky and not cohesive enough. I disagree; there are some days it's my favorite.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago) link

Well, WZ got some bad reviews at first, but it's become a huge fan favorite in the Pavement cult. It's my favorite Pavement album.

I think "Dynamic Calories" wasn't on the record perhaps out of a concern for leaning too heavy on novelty, lyrically. It'd be a better fit on the first Jicks record, probably. Malkmus clearly likes the song a lot, since it was played very frequently on the 2003 tours.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

I think "Dynamic Calories" wasn't on the record perhaps out of a concern for leaning too heavy on novelty, lyrically. It'd be a better fit on the first Jicks record, probably. Malkmus clearly likes the song a lot, since it was played very frequently on the 2003 tours.

I get what you guys are saying about it having a different feel....however, "lyrical novelty"....what about "Cooked her a din...ner/and, boy, it's a win...ner" Yikes that drives me nuts...

Y'all are right about "Old Jerry" that would have been good on Pig Lib...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

I liked the songs on the bonus disc a lot more than the songs on the main disc. Though the "Shake It Around" one was a little too close to the old "No Tan Lines" (which I like better).

Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 9 January 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link

But Matthew, it was recorded in a 9:11 take post-9/11. Sure it's ridiculous, but also interesting (to me at least) to entertain Malkmus state-of-the-world what-ifs, which he invites with lines like "yes it's all over your head and the skeptics rule the nation."
The more excellent music he keeps coming up with, the more he's assuming a Neil Young position with me--ie, I am unhealthy in my fanboy interest about his attitudes and suchlike. And with that I will end this personal confessional.

otto, Friday, 9 January 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

I think Matthew meant "novelty" like "novelty song," not like "innovative."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 January 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

Jaymc is correct; that was my meaning.

Maybe I just take too many things at face value, but I always interpret "Witch Mountain Bridge" as being a song about the occult.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

I have no idea what "Witch Mountain Bridge" is about. The first time I heard it--stoned to bejesus--I thought it was about me, and I was going to hell--"you can tape that to your devil brow." In my last post I got the lyrics wrong even--"yes it's all so straight and narrow and the skeptics" etc. His lyrics kick up all these bizarre ideas in my head, leading, not sober or no, to admittedly silly ideas like _Pig Lib_ has some political agenda. He's like Wallace Stevens that way. Maybe somewhere down the line he'll set "The Emperor of Ice Cream" to music. Or maybe not.

otto, Friday, 9 January 2004 19:59 (twenty years ago) link

I get you, Otto. The ability of Malk's lyrics to evoke lots of interesting and unexpected images/ideas/connections in my mind has always been one of my favorite thing about his music.

Not strictly on topic, but am I alone in feeling "Pink India" is tremendously underrated? I've been really loving that one lately. I love the live versions, when he usually freaks out on the "Punjabi's finest, bring me your wine list" part.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

malkmus is cummings to berman's stevens

andrew s, Friday, 9 January 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

"Pink India" is my favorite track on that album.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:12 (twenty years ago) link

Andrew S, are you trying to say that Cummings rules and Stevens sucks?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

The cummings thing looks like a put-down. I'd say Malkmus is Wordsworth to Berman's Coleridge, Eliot to Berman's Pound, Run to Berman's DMC.

otto, Friday, 9 January 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago) link

Whatever. Berman may be a decent writer, but a decent musician he most certainly is not. The guy should stick to poetry and stay far away from music.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 10 January 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

I await a collection of nothing but Echo and the Bunnymen covers (or was that Spiral Stairs who was the fan? in which case, fave member of a band who I'm indifferent to evah).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

ah, yes that cover of "Killing Moon" is fantastic.

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

That was Spiral, but with another guy (who is pretty dull) singing. Kelly something. He and Spiral did some of that stuff in session on Brian Turner's WFMU show and I thought it was pretty drab.

Ugh. And Spiral's new record - eeek. That's just no good. I want to love that guy, but he's lost it big time. He went alt-country! Bad idea.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 11 January 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

I got it. "One" is based on [i]Johnny Got His Gun[i\], a novel protesting war. "1% of One" is still "One." Compare the guitar breakdowns. The "man from Netherlands" is Lars. To think it only took me three days to glean the truth. I hope the italics work. That's what really concerns me here.

otto, Monday, 12 January 2004 02:11 (twenty years ago) link

please work

otto, Monday, 12 January 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link

The soundman from the Netherlands is Remko Schouten, Malk's european sound guy since the early days of Pavement.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:55 (twenty years ago) link

Fine. I don't suppose you're going to consider the musical "One"/"1% of One" connections.

otto, Monday, 12 January 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

I'd say Malkmus is Wordsworth to Berman's Coleridge, Eliot to Berman's Pound, Run to Berman's DMC.

I'm a frickin illiterate, so I'll take your word on eliot pount coleridge and wordsworth....but DMC is by no means below Run in terms of importance or delivery....in fact, they are two equally necessary and great parts of the whole....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

Anyone note the thematic similarities between "1% of One" and the Pixies song "Space (I Believe In)"? Both are somewhat humorous, self-referential tales of a hired gun involved in the recording process who may or may not know much about the band he's working with. Is the Malkmus tune perhaps a bit of a Pixies hommage? In any case, the Pixies song is clearly the better song of the two.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

I wish I were up enough on the Pixies to add something to that. I'm sorta joking about this Metallica thing, but I am catching allusions up the butt all over this album. Like, the "underground" refrain in "Do Not Feed the Oyster"--is that something to do with the Ben Folds song? And why does "Dark Wave" sound like it's making fun of the Strokes? Stephen, why do you lead me to such foolish thoughts and questions?

M@tt, don't take me to mean Run or DMC's better than the other. My point about all those guys is they're word-people who complement each other.

otto, Monday, 12 January 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

gotcha - sorry - I know more about rap than literature, sad to say.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Love Pig Lib...freakin rocks. Did SM do a song called "Sin Taxi?" and where would I find this. The room is spotless....except for that...you wouldn't know ow ow ow ow inhabitants...inhabited....the room.....ya feel me ..that song...i like ....... es. Thanks.

Mikey P, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:11 (twenty years ago) link

Yes he did and it's very good. You can probably get it off of soulseek. don't know what it's on.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:20 (twenty years ago) link

ah, yes that cover of "Killing Moon" is fantastic.
-- dog latin (doglati...), January 11th, 2004.

That was Spiral, but with another guy (who is pretty dull) singing. Kelly something. -- Matthew Perpetua (fluxequalsra...), January 11th, 2004.

wait a second here... you are saying that that ISN'T malkmus singing on pavement's cover of "the killing moon"??? of course it is!

someoneoneone, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:55 (twenty years ago) link

I'm still enjoying this album. Had it over a year now and I still hear new stuff each time. The other day I noticed quite how prog he's become. They're constantly changing time signatures, jamming for 7 minutes (and managing to make it sound interesting for a change) or he's singing about salem witches. Malkmus should be proud of this album.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

four weeks pass...
1% of 1 is not 1. It is .01

Greg Travis, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

I think it gets dull in places, but it's good, all right.

Some of the guitar solos seem influenced by Robin Trower - or am I imagining that. That made me think that what was uncool about some of those seventies albums wasn't the guitar solos, as I had begun to think, but the old-fashioned singing style (Trower's singer is unlistenable now, but some of his guitar still stands up, in my opinion. No matter how retro Malkmus tries to get, his voice always sounds 90s slacker-indy, which, in my opinion, is what saves Pig Lib from ludicrousness.

Baravelli. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

that's been bugging me for a while too. Malkmus in not-as-smart-as-he-makes-out shocker? Or does it refer to something else?

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago) link

you dudes should turn your analyses over to matt drudge for a thorough lid-blower. i think you guys are onto something really preposterous.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

that last post was an xpost - was referring to Greg Travis

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

thi album is now down to 3 pounds in fopp btw

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 08:38 (twenty years ago) link

And totally worth your money. Buy copies! Give them to your friends! Give them to people you love! Perfect for the spring time.

John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 10:58 (twenty years ago) link

revive for no apparent reason! (other than i'm still listening to the album)

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
revive, because of Billboard magazine.

Former Pavement frontman Stephen Malkmus has begun work on a new album which may wind up either as a solo project or a collaboration with his band, the Jicks. "I've been down in the basement working on a different kind of record," he wrote on his official Web site. "The band has been contributing a bit but it has more of a solo vibe than anything I've done in a long time."

Malkmus adds that "we're probably gonna do some group recording" sometime this month. The finished product "looks like a January release though may come earlier," presumably via the artist's long-time label Matador.

Malkmus' last release was 2003's "Pig Lib," which bowed at No. 5 on Billboard's Top Independent Albums chart and has sold 49,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. He and the Jicks will return to the live stage July 2 at the AV Festival in Malaga, Spain, which will also feature Morrissey, Squarepusher, Stereolab, Trans Am, John Cale, ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead, Four Tet and Shellac.

In related news, Pavement's legacy is chronicled in Rob Jovanovic's new book, "Perfect Sound Forever," released last month by Justin, Charles & Co.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 7 June 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link

The words "solo vibe" chill me to the bone.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 7 June 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link


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