almost woke this thread up last night -- I bought that bootlegged Hibari Misora DVD of her NHK special from Barbara's Enka site. Misora's really something, and the original version of "Kurumaya-san" is mindblowing. Planning to transfer the audio from the disc, I'll post an mp3 when I get back.
Enka's very interesting stuff; coming right out of WWII, the instrumentation is straight up big band & western derived, but all the vocal styles sung on top are still pure pentatonic classic japanese vocal lines, dramatic recitationals w/ beautifully ornamented melodies, much more of a striking hybrid than what j-pop has become for the last 15 years or so.
Enka is song of resignation. Resignation must be sweet so that it is endurable.
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
note symmetrical min:sec values of album length
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/Sprad/KZK.png
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hal! Jordan! HAL! JORDAN! (Barima), Monday, 22 May 2006 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link
I would have to agree that "Torikoshi Gurou" is a weak point, although I like "Okonomi de" (which frankly reminds me of one of those 70s Todd Rundgren hits--not exactly, of course).
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 22 May 2006 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Lingbertt, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lingbertt, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― BARMS, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 07:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:11 (eighteen years ago) link
anyway here's the hisari mibora version of 'kurumaya-san', transferred from that TV special -- I doubt the studio version is this dramatic: http://www.sendspace.com/file/d66t45
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 03:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link
http://seitekihealing3.tripod.com/1/PDVD_042.JPG
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link
might as well just link the whole site, it's a bizarre html simulation of the 'seiteki healing 3' DVD menu w/ screen captures
http://seitekihealing3.tripod.com/
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 05:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― BARMS, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Hisari Mibora's "Kurumaya-san" is great. Any idea when the TV special was recorded? How long did it take for them to get such a workable fusion of western big band music and traditional Japanese music, after WWII? (Was it maybe already in the works, despite the war?)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link
There's a lot of orientalist clap trap in this thread . . .
― Gandalf Mantooth (Gandalf Mantooth), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Like?
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
the earliest Misora on the NHK special seems to date from late 40's/early 50's (all the captions / voiceovers are in japanese). the 'kurumaya-san' segment seems to date from late 60's/early 70's? to set the scene, the song's first verse is staged with her being dropped off by a rickshaw driver outside her house, she pays him; he leaves and she begins the first vocal solo; then instead of going inside she wanders off into her garden and sings the 2nd verse, then she approaches the camera and sings the 2nd solo.
the whole special is good, I can recommend Barbara's Enka site.
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
I think you will get your wish eventually. I believe this thread's Google rank is rising.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link
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― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 25 May 2006 05:17 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR0rjMO7JE4&search=tokyo%20jihen
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link
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― shiinafan#1, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:37 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.jpopmusic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=54414&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― loggedinloggedoutloggedinloggedout, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― willow, Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Fourteen record labels have filed a suit demanding three Internet service providers disclose the names and addresses of 19 individuals who the plaintiffs claim infringed copyright by using the file-exchanging software WinMX to post music on the Net, a music industry association said Tuesday.
About 1.3 million people use file-exchanging software to exchange hit songs via the Internet for free, according to the Tokyo-based Recording Industry Association of Japan, to which all the 14 record labels belong.
The record labels, which filed the suit with the Tokyo District Court, have found IP addresses of the 19 people by checking access logs to websites where songs have been posted.
Invoking the law on the liability of Internet service providers, they then asked 11 providers over a three-month period from December to February to disclose personal information on 38 individuals.
However, only eight people's personal information was disclosed.
The service providers that have refused to disclose personal information on their clients say disclosure would require a court order as it involves matters of individual privacy. In a similar suit, the court ruled in June last year that Internet service providers must disclose the names and addresses of individuals who posted singer Ringo Shiina's songs on the Internet.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
that french site that's had KZK up for about three years has prompted more album sales than anything the record label's bothered to pursue. I've bought six albums, five DVDs and six singles, all at import prices -- add up that revenue, you executive idiots -- all because of one mp3 of 'stem' posted to said the gramophone & that KZK site. those people are doing your work for you, you stupid suits.
those idiots don't even have her stuff up on itunes yet.
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
An advertisement for KZK.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 25 June 2006 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqGPdaJlwg&search=shiina%20ringo
she's unusually saccharine on the chorus, but it's worth it for the Sachiko M jam at the end
― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 25 June 2006 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 25 June 2006 07:58 (eighteen years ago) link
don, I have to hook you up with a copy of that song Milton posted a while back. I think you'd like it. It's a shame you don't have a high-speed connection (most of the time anyway?) because you could check out a lot of this stuff on youtube.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 26 June 2006 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Monday, 26 June 2006 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 26 June 2006 03:33 (eighteen years ago) link
granted she's not even being distributed by her label in the west, and professionals can't review something more than a few months old, or vote for last year's album. you'd think that they'd have been ready by adult, though. I've zero investment in seeing my tastes reflected, I'm only frustrated without that press intrest, a group of that stature can't afford to tour. And then I see things like Souretsu on youtube and I just want to scream (I honestly did consider flying out to tokyo for that show).
on the other hand, the media isn't needed. look at the number of views of any of her youtube videos. I hope her management is, anyway. the Japanese audience is slimming into a hardcore cult fanbase for her, but I bet you anything the Western audience is ready.
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 26 June 2006 06:31 (eighteen years ago) link
If Tokyo Jihen did end up being able to tour the US, they would probably have to scale it down at first. It would be awesome to see them in a small venue, but they'd have to sacrifice the elaborate stage show like the one in that video.
I wonder what it would take to start getting their music distributed over here. I actually did see Adult for sale at Uwajimaya's in Seattle earlier this month (for $35), but I'm guessing that's one of the very few places you'd be able to find it.
― A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Monday, 26 June 2006 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Sorry to go OT a bit, but it seems better to ask you here, rather than start a "recommend me some rock" thread where I keep saying, "No, that's not what I'm looking for."
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 3 July 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 6 July 2006 01:49 (eighteen years ago) link
DOMESTIC! Just Can't Help It tour -- a DVD of the May 26th concert, coming out this September -- just announced on her web site. Sounds very different than the NHK special they aired of the February concerts, which I need to get a copy of because I am sick of loading up YouTube just to watch 'Souretsu'.
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 6 July 2006 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link