Rolling Country 2010

Played the new Easton Corbin (his debut) and Gary Allan albums. The Corbin was pleasant at best; nothing really jumped out at me. But I'm liking at least four songs on the Allan -- masochism metaphor "Get Off On The Pain" and "That Ain't Gonna Fly" for their toughness; "We Fly By Night" and mercy fuck/breakup sex number "Kiss Me When I'm Down" for the specificity of their lyrics. Like this line in the latter, listing stuff she left behind at his place when she dumped him: "A stack of mail/a tube of toothpaste/An empty Zeppelin III CD case."

x-post. Yea, I think there are some memorable Mavericks songs and would not dismiss the group. I never saw them live, but I saw Raul Malo solo and with a band live several times and recall some of the Mavericks songs working. Xhuck, he's got quite a voice as you acknowledge. For some fans that's enough (also noticed that women were especially charmed by him live).

Regarding cheating songs, that's interesting that country has largely abandoned them (if that's true). They still dominate Southern (Chitlin Circuit) soul to the point that they are formulaic and predictable and I am sick of them. Actually I never liked that lyrical theme much to begin with.

Surely "White Liar" is a cheating song, and quite good. Not definite on what counts as a cheating song; is it only a cheating song when the protagonist cheats (which might disqualify great tracks about a lover's cheating like John Conlee's "She Can't Say That Anymore," since it seems to be through the guy's eyes, but is really about the gal)? In any event, Taylor Swift's "Should've Said No" is about not forgiving a cheater, and if you take account of the video, so is "White Horse." Doesn't Gretchen Wilson have a few? (Well, maybe I'm thinking of the one on the Barbara Mandrell tribute album, which would only confirm your point.) From a few years ago we've got Toby's excellent "Stays In Mexico" and Lee Ann Womack's excellent "There's More Where That Came From."

Yeah, "Stays In Mexico" occurred to me, and most of those others make sense -- duh. Not sure why it seems like there's fewer now; maybe just because I don't have them all compiled in one place. (Most obvious one we haven't mentioned: Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats"! So yeah, cheated-on songs, as I suggested above, definitely count; "She Can't Say That Anymore" is even more blatant about that than "Friday Night Blues," which only implies Conlee's a cuckold but was included on that cheating song compilation regardless.)

Of the songs I listed above, maybe most of them -- definitely "She Just Started Liking Cheating Songs and "She's Acting Single (I'm Drinkin' Doubles)" -- obviously revolve around the protagonist's spouse cheating.

Xhuxk you know how much I love Gary Allan. Can't wait to hear it...although no chance I'm gonna get a promo, I'm deader in Nashville than Charlie Robison or Robbie Fulks.

Miranda Lambert & Brad Paisley place in Top 40 in 2009 Pazz & Jop.

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/

Lots of country in Jane Dark's top 25 singles of 2009:

http://janedark.com/2010/01/top_25_songs_of_2009_in_a_sing.html

Sarah Buxton to open for Martina McBride and Trace Adkins on the Shine All Night tour, so possibly she won't disappear commercially in the way that Ashley Monroe disappeared.

I bumped into a few interesting websites and thought I'd share the links.

This guy comes to country from an alt perspective, but he's clearly got a lot of curiosity about Nashville proper. Impossible to search but fun to browse, with tons of album reviews from all eras of country.

http://www.slipcue.com/music/country/countryindex.html

This one's got to be the definitive David Allan Coe review page.

http://www.roctober.com/roctober/greatness/coe.html

Just heard "Ala Freakin Bama"

Wow.

They call it the crimson tide!

Hey everyone. Just catching up with this thread. RE the Brad Paisley discussion above from a few weeks back, some of which mentioned me explicitly: it's possible to love Paisley (and Taylor and Miranda and Jamey Johnson and other critical darlings) *and* to love country that's not on the mainstream rock-crit radar. Not all Paisley lovers are by definition idiot arrivistes. The know-it-all territorialism around country that rears its head on ILX and elsewhere is embarrassing. There are certain critics who want own the genre, and reflexively lash out at anyone who dares venture on their "turf." Sorry--you have to share.

Also, for the record: I do love "Then," but it's not my favorite song on ASN. (That'd be "Anything Like Me." I'm soft like that.) "Then" is my favorite of the singles released so far.

That said: I love the country talk on ILX generally. I come here every once in a while just to read and always learn a lot. FWIW totally co-sign on "The Truth" and I think the new Gary Allan is a grower. All his records have taken a while to open up for me...

Hey Jody, great to see you here. And point well taken on the guarding country-critic turf issue, though I'm fairly sure you overstate the extent to which it occurs here -- Only once, to my knowledge, by me, and I was pretty self-critical about it, to wit: "...increasingly 'the country singer it's okay for critics to like.' Honestly, that's a good reason to be skeptical...Not sure why it bugs me, except that there are country artists this decade who I've liked more. (Probably just a kneejerk reflex, part of my chemical makeup from way way back.)"

That said, I've been surprising myself this week by liking "Why Don't We Just Dance" by Josh Turner, who've I never particularly cared about before. Starting to understand, a little, why people might consider his deep voice so sexy. Guess I should listen to the rest of the album...

Also, Lady Antebellum's new album is growing on me. At least a little.

Also kind of like "Hillbilly Bone" by Blake Shelton feat. Trace Adkins, not so much for the song itself, which is neglible as far as I can tell, as for the playing behind the guys, which has to rank among the funkier and more convicing Skynyrd approximations to have hit country radio. (Which means Ricky Skaggs, who believes everything on country radio sounds like "Sweet Home Alabama", probably hates it. Meant to mention up above, though, that probably my favorite Ricky Skaggs song -- "Heartbroke," from 1982 -- has what's sure always sounded to me like a Motown bassline. So again, he hasn't always been the purist he presents himself as.) (Also like that song's high multisyllabic-word quotient. Only competition for favorite Skaggs song, "Highway 40 Blues," came from the same album. But it's not like I've really kept up with him.)

Funny thing, Chuck: I reviewed the Lady Antebellum record and was pretty hard on them...and now I feel a little cruddy about it. They can write tunes, and the new album is definitely better than the last. I saw them play last year, though, and they really bored me silly. I'll take Little Big Town.

Regarding Josh Turner, I've always *loved* his voice, but I wish he had more good material -- more songs as good as "Your Man." Maybe the new album will be decent? What do you think of Chris Young? He's got that nice basso profundo too, and I've liked several of his songs a lot.

Only Chris Young song I've remotely cared about is "I'm Headed Your Way Jose'" from his debut (a more explicit pro-immigration song than "American Saturday Night" if you ask me), but then again, the debut is the only album I've ever played by him all the way through.

Just played Turner's new one all the way through, and he's definitely going for smoldering beefcake romance -- almost all love and lust songs, like the last Keith Urban album. Sounded okay, some of it maybe better than okay, but yeah -- not sure how great the material is. Only song that really jumped out as me like the single did is "Your Smile," which has some real warm Hoagy Carmichael Mint Julep jazz to it (maybe somewhere between what Alan Jackson was doing on Like Red On A Rose a couple years ago, and what Toby Keith was doing on White Tra$h With Money, kind of), complete with a nice sunny-afternoon whistling break. And "Lovin' You On My Mind" seems a decent quiet-storm makeout session. Last song, "Answer," is gratuitous put-your-faith-in-Jesus bullshit; when did the tradition of country albums ending with Jesus start, anyway? I've noticed that a few times, the last few years.

I almost definitely don't like the new Lady Antebellum album as much as the first one -- as I said above, too many ballads (see also: Vampire Weekend.) But then, I don't know anybody else who liked the first one as much as I did. And right, they're not near Little Big Town's level.

Turner album also has an at least fair-to-middling, maybe better, just-got-paid number, in "Friday Paycheck," complete with the take-this-job-and-shove-it references its title would lead you to expect. (I didn't like "Your Man" when it was a hit, btw, though I may have underrated it. I remember Anthony Easton being a big Turner supporter around here.)

One song from last year in that jazz vein you were talking about is Joe Nichols' "This Bed's Too Big", one of the few songs I really liked on his most recent album.

Interesting Chris Young and Josh Turner were mentioned together - That Turner song about dancing sort of reminds me of Young's song about getting dressed up mostly to get undressed, "Getting You Home", which is one of the only songs I really remember from his album last year, which overall was decent but didn't make that strong of an impression, though there is something I like about his singing.

I somewhat facetiously raised the idea of C.B. Radio songs on last year's Rolling Country thread, halfway figuring -- without much evidence -- that they might've been a breif fad in the late '70s:

Rolling Country 2009 Thread

Well, now I have evidence -- A compilation, released on Realistic Records and sold exclusively through Radio Shack according to its cover, called All Ears: 10 New And Original Songs With a CB Theme; found it for $2 (a real splurge for me!) at a vintage store in Houston last month. No copyright year anywhere on the cover, but I assume not long post-"Convoy" (which topped the pop chart in early 1976). Best cuts, like "Convoy," are basically talking blues: "The Handles Hall of Fame" by Johnny Hemphill (a list of creative nicknames that makes me think of the one in Kool Moe Dee's "Wild West West") and "Listenin' CB Blues" by Mac Wiseman (about trying to get used to all this newfangled technology.) "Everybody's Somebody (in Our CB World)" by Ed Bernet is the most American songpoem like in its cluelessness, but also the post proto-Internet in concept -- namely, the idea that, no matter how you look or whether you're a young girl or an old man, you can create a persona and make friends to talk to via the network. "L.J.'s CB Radio" by Oscar Rey is a cornball Hee Haw standup comedy routine; "The Night I Talked To The Lord" (...on my CB Radio) has the same concept as Carrie Underwood's "Jesus Take the Wheel," seeing how God saves the driver from a devastating crash. Other songs show an obvious Ray Stevens and David Seville influence, and a recurring theme is trying to make sense of all this brand new slang. Most of it is pretty bad, I guess, but I'm still really glad to own it.

Also definitely not hating, if not quite know if I'm liking enough to keep yet, two new folk albums: Ike Reilly's Hard Luck Stories (verbosity in an early Dylan/early Springsteen style, definitely witty but so far too plain and detached to really grab me -- Cibula's a big fan) and Sparrow and the Workshop's In The Wild (Chicago girl whose voice triangulates somewhere between Janis Joplin, Kate Bush, and Polly Harvey leading an I guess post-post-post-Fairport Convention folk band from Glasgow -- 25-minute EP/mini-LP, the brevity of which helps, but I don't know whether any individual songs will sink in beyond the likably lush and dusky drone -- actually came out last July, as far as I can tell from the web, but only just showed up in my mail this week.)

If somebody can sell me on Sparrow And The Workshop, especially, please do so. I want to like them. Here's a link to their Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/sparrowandtheworkshop

Aw man, no love for the Ike Reilly/Shooter Jennings duet?

Laff riot FRONTPAGE story in the LA Times today by Geoff Boucher on ... wait for it ... how rock bands don't get in the charts or get to do the major label album thing as in days of yore. Focus on some marginal indie band playing the Troubador called The Afternoons.

Earth to Geoff Boucher and the LA Times, all d' rock bands like you talk about went to de Nashville where they're doin' just fine, K? THX. Jason Aldean sells more, rocks harder, than The Afternoons.

Who the fuck are The Afternoons, anyway?

"The Afternoons have also sought out public radio ... "

Brilliancy prize subhed: Rock is a hard place

Flea interviewed for bits of received wisdom. "It ain't like it used to be in the ol' days when I ... "

no love for the Ike Reilly/Shooter Jennings duet

"The War On The Terror And The Drugs"? It's okay, I guess. There's some camaraderie there, at least. Song doesn't really grab me, though; title has potential, but I don't hear them doing much with it. And actually, I think the album gets a little better after that one, when Reilly starts doing what seems more like shaddy dog stories and stops coming off like he's so impressed by his own cleverness, even though his apparent punchlines never really make me laugh. Think my favorite track on the album might be "Sheet Metal Moon" -- kind of like that image, for some reason. "Ballad Of Jack & Haley" kind of jumped out for me, too. And "Good Work" convinces me he's been watching Friday Night Lights. But with such a mediocre voice (no less mediocre than Shooter's), I really wish Reilly would get a solid band to help put these songs over. As is, like lots of other okay alt-country, the album just really feels to me like a promising songwriter's demo tape.

"shaggy dog stories," I meant

i know this is really old

but I just recently heard Jamey Johnson & I really liked what I heard

which surprised me because he co-wrote some of those goofy Trace Adkins singles I didn't dig

I've also had "White Liar" by Miranda Lambert stuck in my head for days for some reason

maybe 2010 will be the year I open my mind to Nashville stuff, who knows

xp btw, Matt, there's a good chance I still prefer the Reilly duet to anything on Shooter's own new album. (And I know I'm getting to sound like a broken record with the alt-country folkies = demo-tape singers formulation. Should really retire that by now. But there have been guys from that world in the past few years who've at least halfway overcome their vocal limitations, and accentuated their songwriting skills, by hiring reasonably rocking musicians -- James McMurtry, Hayes Carrl, Chris Knight, now Ray Wylie Hubbard if he counts. All I'm saying is Ike Reilly's songs would probably reach me more if he did the same.)

Does that CB comp have Merle Haggard/Leona Williams's "Bull and the Beaver"? I heard that on Rick Jackson's Country Hall of Fame a couple weeks ago, and it's my new favorite CB song, maybe after "Convoy." It took me a while to figure out what it was about, actually, but it's pretty sexy, given lines like:

Well it won't be hard to back it
Now babe I'm right behind you
Just put them air brakes on and let 'er slide

Rick Jackson could barely say anything about it, he was cracking up so much.

Also, still need to listen to Lady Antebellum's album more, but it struck me as OK, though the singles are growing on me. I determined last night that "Need You Now"'s sleekness reminds me of "Hysteria," and heard "American Honey" on the radio this morning and really liked the kick drum. It was a cool beat for a jangly folk type song.

Nah, Dr. Phil, that C&W CB song comp I got is 100% unknowns -- maybe Radio Shack had a contest and sorted through demo tapes, or something.

"That's How Country Boys Roll" by Billy Currington has some palpable gimme-three-steps Skynyrd boogie-woogie to its rhythm track too, I just remembered when hearing it on the car radio this morning (not unlike Shelton/Adkins' aforementioned "Hillbilly Bone" -- too bad both songs have lyrics so much dumber than Skynyrd ever would've done in the '70s.)

Lady Antebellum at number one.

Okay, weird -- Somebody just mentioned Shirley & Squirelly's "Hey Shirley (This Is Squirrely)," which leads off the Radio Shack CB comp, on the "Word(s) that only ever appeared in one (hit) song, ever" thread (answering a post about Merle Haggard, oddly enough.) I assumed they were unknowns, since I'd never heard of the song before, but turns out it went to #48 on the pop chart in 1976. (Joel Whitburn says "see also The Nutty Squirrels," so I did: Their "Uh Oh Part 2" and "Uh Oh Part 1" went to #14 and #45, respectively, in 1959. But Whitburn lists different people for them; perhaps only the squirrels were in common.)

Couple notes on Josh Turner's new album, which I like: (1) "Your Smile" is not as Hoagy Carmichael as I thought -- more old-timey country if anything -- but you sense Mint Juleps anyway, maybe because real old country and Dixie riverboat jazz were not so far apart (actually, some of Mac McAnally's '09 album had a sound like that too -- a couple songs reminded me of old Randy Newman before his voice was shot); (2) "Lovin' You On My Mind" has an even more blatant classic soul ballad sound than I thought; (3) closing Jesus number is not as noxious as I suggested -- I like the Muscle Shoals style church organ and gospel backup, and even the message (basically, I guess, that there's somebody you can lean on if things are going lousy for you) doesn't seem particularly offensive.

Shirley & Squirrely NOT as sexy as Williams & Haggard. (Unless squirrels are your thing.)

My review of Patty Griffin's future-Nashville-Scene-critics-poll-placing Downtown Church is up here. Buddy Miller produced, he and Raul Malo and Julie Miller and Emmylou Harris and a bunch of other people duet. It's mostly gospel covers; the most Country songs are Hank's "House of Gold" and Traditional's "Never Grow Old," which Johnny Cash probably covered. But, despite good singing and playing and arranging, the whole thing struck me as too tentative and tasteful. Best song is the cover of "If I Had My Way" (aka "Samson & Delilah"), which is groovy with a great, round lead guitar tone. New Griffin original keeper that'll probably pop up on a major label country album in the next couple years: "Coming Home to Me." But as good an idea as it was to sing "Virgen de Guadalupe" with Raul Malo, the song put me to sleep.

The know-it-all territorialism around country that rears its head on ILX and elsewhere is embarrassing.

Well, I guess Jody Rosen's gone, but I'd say the know-it-all territorialism around country gets challenged on ILX more than anywhere else in the world that I know of, so it's not like Jody's making a particularly strong point or telling us something we'd not have known if he hadn't said it, or saying anything about the territorialism; but he might have been referring to Edd's or George's takes on Paisley and Swift (if he was misreading George, since George's dislike has nothing to do with country territorialism) and not noticing everyone else's. (To be fair to Jody, maybe he did notice everyone else's and just didn't think he needed to mention it. He wasn't venturing an opinion as to whether or not the territorialism dominates ILX. Still, why is that what he chooses to remark on, given what's actually written in the Rolling Country threads.)

By the way, I have nothing in principle against territorialism, especially when it's thoughtful and makes an effort to put into words what's at stake and what's in danger of getting overridden or lost, which is exactly what Edd's does. Genres are shifting territories and associations, but that doesn't mean that we just ignore the territory and association. I'm as territorial as anybody alive, I'm just not static or conventional in my sense of territory, usually (at least I hope I'm not).

OK, my bad; I just checked back to Xhuxk's mention of Jody, and I realize it's Jody responding to Xhuxk's calling Paisley, "the country singer it's okay for critics to like," which I guess Jody took to imply that generalist critics like Jody tend only to like country singers it's OK for critics to like. But country critics are just as capable as generalists of only liking country singers it's OK for critics to like, so I think Jody's misinterpreting Xhuxk's comment as about defending a territory (country) when it's actually about respectability (which is a different territory).

(And Xhuxk and I are as much generalists as Jody is, of course.)

Any thoughts about Holly Williams? She grazed the country top 60 a couple of times last year; she's also fundamentally a singer songwriter, even if her granddad did die in a Cadillac. The single, "Keep The Change," feels a bit like Christine McVie singing Van Morrison's "Wild Night," though not very wild. But good.

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Sorry to respond to a post from more than a month ago, but I gotta say that Holly Williams' record floored me last year. Would have never guessed she could do something that good. The whole thing is solid, but my favorites are "Keep the Change" and her duet with Chris Janson, "A Love I Think Could Last."

My dislike of Brad Paisley -- which starts at the recent album -- is because he's now the million dollar video goof, a teller of too many intelligence-insulting fairy tales. Generally, I like lots of fairy tales. Just not his on this record where he makes out to be drily humorous, warm and wise.

I'm all for class war. And Paisley's now part and mythologizer for a class I'd like to see suffer from it. Not that I have any illusion it'll happen. But I can have my dreams, can't I?

Sorry to gloat about this to anybody stuck in that horrible Middle Atlantic snowstorm, but it was super sunny and in the '60s in Austin this afternoon, excellent weather for driving around with the car window down, and it was pretty thrilling when the DJ on the country station segued from Lady Antebellum's "American Honey" ("nothing's sweeter than summertime") to Kid Rock's "All Summer Long" (music from Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama") to Billy Currington's "That's How Country Boys Roll" (music from Skynyrd's "What's Your Name") Somehow doubt that was an accident, and all three songs benefitted from it.

I noticed this comment on the stupid fruity crazy swag thread:

i think the idea of having a monthly ILM digest with peeps from the Metal/Swag/D-Bag/Rolling Country/Indie/Electrobobbins donating their MUST LISTEN tracks/links/sites of the month would be totally next level

I normally wouldn't figure that more than 1% of ILM proper would care about a country link, but then again Taylor Swift won the trax poll...so I'll throw up a few Youtube's here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLjLy51AsMc

Radney Foster- A Little Revival

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J_11y-Ot3Y

Zane Williams- Pablo & Maria

Uh, best not to let the get the thread get all youtubed out, though (not that I haven't been guilty of putting videos up too, on occasion.) Some of our browsers don't take kindly to that sort of overloading...

(i think the idea of having a monthly ILM digest with peeps from the Metal/Swag/D-Bag/Rolling Country/Indie/Electrobobbins donating their MUST LISTEN tracks/links/sites of the month would be totally next level

I like this idea. I think it would be more successful if the person starting it would be a popularity contest winning ILMer.)

Uh, best not to let the get the thread get all youtubed out, though (not that I haven't been guilty of putting videos up too, on occasion.) Some of our browsers don't take kindly to that sort of
overloading...

Make that more than 'some'.

(i think the idea of having a monthly ILM digest with peeps from the Metal/Swag/D-Bag/Rolling Country/Indie/Electrobobbins donating their MUST LISTEN tracks/links/sites of the month would be totally next level

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I like this idea. I think it would be more successful if the person starting it would be a popularity contest winning ILMer.)

Good sarcasm. Definitely need more cheerleading by student council members and lists.

Actually, I didn't even mean it sarcastically. It's just realistic that some posters have more "authority" (via popularity) to successfully pull something like that off.

I like the rough bash of this indie-incompetent blues-country Sandwitches track; checked their MySpace and heard too much art-haze recessiveness on some of the other tracks, and the indie lose-by-losing tendency wears itself out, though I presume the Sandwitches don't conceive of it as recessiveness but as a strategy to produce beauty. Think there's potential here, and that the beauty is within reach but more likely to be achieved when aligned with bash. "Fire" and "Kiss Your Feet" have nice moments.

Some of our browsers don't take kindly to that sort of overloading...

Yeah, my cheap-jack EarthLink DSL modem balks when I try to load the mammoth ILM 2009 poll thread. (Actually, not being technically savvy, don't know if it's the modem or the CPU or insufficient RAM or what.) I've managed to get halfway into it: some interesting stuff there if you can manage to load it, especially from Tim Finney on Taylor.

Speaking of Taylor, her Better Than Ezra cover for Haiti relief is painfully out-of-tune (at least painful for me), though I think the pitch problem is the musicians' too, not just hers; I seem to be erratic as to when this sort of thing bothers me. And Taylor herself seems to be erratic, in that Cis reported Taylor completely in tune when she played London, and Himes wrote in his year-end essay that he'd seen her being pitch perfect. Maybe for all her apparent poise, she actually chokes in the face of a TV audience. (But my own pitch problems never have anything to do with choking or not, from what I can tell.)

Like, the Sandwitches didn't tune up too strenuously on "Back To The Sea" and the sound works fine within their basic clatter, and the bad drumming has force, etc. They may have musical smarts that compensate for their lack of chops. Inspired amateurism can take as much savvy and effort as professional precision, though a different kind of effort.

I like the powerful competence of the Radney Foster "A Little Revival," definitely hits me though the impact fades over its four minutes - too many happy chords, and the lyrics are a string of meaningful thoughts from the Meaningful Thought Cheese Food Machine, an unintentional parody of significance. Nice and meta, about standing up for people who stand up, while the song doesn't actually stand up for anything.

I hung onto every word of Zane Williams' "Pablo & Maria," though I wish the plot had some surprise rather than Maria doing what you'd expect. I like that Williams didn't over-explain the story, didn't give you the background of who the characters were or why they'd gotten into their predicament. (Unless the characters are well-known in Texas lore of which I am ignorant.) I like the man's voice; another performer I'd affix the phrase "has potential" to. On the first song on his Webpage, "The Right Place," his voice is way less emphatic and distinctive, for some reason.

Did a skim of the other tracks on the Zane Williams site, and unfortunately ended up thinking "singer who sounds like that sort of singer" (folkie-honky-tonk, perhaps). Of course, on first listen to someone new that's usually how you hear it. "Six Steel Strings" and "The Cowboy And the Clown" and "Live To Love Again" all had force though I didn't hear anything distinctively Zane Williams in them. - the last of those sounding the most commercial and radio ready and stronger for it, but needs another singer to have a chance. Maybe a bigger recording budget would give Williams a bigger voice. "Pablo and Maria" stands out from everything else, jumps to the foreground from the first note, and it's the least "orchestrated" song here, mostly accompanied only by guitar, lets the melody and story take charge.