Luomo: The Present Lover

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That should be some sort of punishable offense, what DJ Martian just did.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 24 May 2003 01:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think the punishment is people begin to figure out to just skip dj martian's posts (taste of own medicine etc.)

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 25 May 2003 05:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...

Revive. This is fairly available on Soulseek now. Go get it. Pitchfork just reviewed it, and sold it a little short IMO.

It's like discovering house music all over again. I haven't been this thrilled with repetitive beats since More Songs About Food and Revolutionary Art.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 4 July 2003 05:52 (twenty years ago) link

i think dom's review was good - at least he was upfront about his previous aversion to house - but then again i have a hard time seeing who they'd give it to, other than maybe nitush or mark richardson, both of whom seem to circle around the genres edges.

they have a long way to go before redeeming themselves for the rooty review, however

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 4 July 2003 06:00 (twenty years ago) link

Wow. I hadn't read that before. He apparently doesn't like Sex Style either, which is two points off -- one for having no sense of humor, and one for referencing an album that has nothing whatsofuckingever to do with the one he's reviewing.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 4 July 2003 06:06 (twenty years ago) link

Actually the whole review has nothing whatsofuckingever to do with anything. Jeez -- can't you turn review assignments down? Can't you say, "No, sorry, I have no idea what I'm talking about"?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 4 July 2003 06:08 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah but here in the States where that techno shit is everywhere you go -- well, someone's gotta slay the behemoth!!

― Clarke B. (stolenbus), Friday, 4 July 2003 08:56 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...

hey at last.

amazon uk has september 15th listed as the official release date
for the cd over here.

that's taken some time hasn't it ?

― piscesboy, Thursday, 11 September 2003 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

This is a superb album though i have one problem with it - at the beginning of "what good" the way the vocal has been cut up makes the vocalist {raz?} sound like a south park character - maybe cartman - has anyone else notived this? it really annoys me!

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 11 September 2003 12:34 (twenty years ago) link

Soupy Sales fans will recognize it as the voice of White Fang.

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 11 September 2003 12:41 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...

I fell asleep last week with a mix cd playing in my earphones, and woke up with the cooing throat-noise part of "Body Speaking" all echoey and wet in my ears. I was hard as a rock.

This is when I truly began to appreciate Luomo.

― DarrensCoq, Sunday, 14 December 2003 10:03 (twenty years ago) link

out in U.S. officially in Feb.

― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 14 December 2003 10:50 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

my review + new Kylie: http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0406/matos.php

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Saturday, 7 February 2004 12:31 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I really like this piece - it nails The Present Lover surprisingly quickly and easier (though not enough, probably, to satisfy the doubting Thomases, but then nothing ever does). I had actually been struck by the similarities between Fever and The Present Lover - they frequently share that too-ecstatic quality. My vision of what Kylie's follow-up should be like was something a bit like the poppier moments of The Present Lover, even before I'd heard that record.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

so what about the admission that he's moving in a more "R&B" direction with the next one? it seems like the "logical" step oddly enough, given most of the present lover, his general ambivalence towards electronic dance culture, and the basic pre-house predilections he's always going on about in interviews. (even vocalcity in its way now can kind of be seen as a post-glitch update on disco-funk.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

(though i do have this feeling that the more he moves towards "proper song form" [or even just "proper song length"] the less interested i will get.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:28 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I was thinking that myself -- without saying I'm a Luomo expert, I was imagining this shift and finding it sorta meh.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

Well I sort of agree with that even though I love The Present Lover - it's one of those midpoint in a trajectory moments I think.

You can see the same thing with Kylie going in the other direction - Fever was midpoint in a trajectory between Light Years and Body Language and is much better than both.

"Mirrorball" is an interesting example of an alternative direction Luomo might have gone in with the second album - more minimal but also housier.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:38 (twenty years ago) link

i'm not writing him off completely, of course; i just worry that his idea of "r&b" is going to be anita baker or mid-80s luther vandross rather than destiny's child or (even) jagged edge.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:41 (twenty years ago) link

Luther Vandross is possibly a better direction than, like, Spacek or something though. It's hard to say.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

Who was Luther's producer then anyway? Hm, an AMG question...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:49 (twenty years ago) link

marcus miller

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:51 (twenty years ago) link

yeah one of the things that i liked (not liked) about the present lover was when the opulence/cheese meter kind of went off the scale ("visitor", the female vox on "what good").

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:51 (twenty years ago) link

...heh, shoulda guessed, he self-produced, though with some sort of session god called Marcus Miller as coproducer.

Dammit xpost. But I provided the link!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:52 (twenty years ago) link

"visitor" still makes me cringe a little bit after a few dozen listens, though it's undeniably beautiful in its way.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:52 (twenty years ago) link

what he told me was that he really digs the vocal science in modern R&B (he mentioned Brandy and JT), that they're the easiest way to add a 'soulful' or organic dimension to music and he wants to find new ways to use them. i'm not sure he's going all the way to the songful "real" side, he seems more engaged by how that's implied in modern R&B. anyway, he just finished this one, cut him some slack guys ;]

― ryan kuo (ryan kuo), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

he "just" finished The Present Lover almost two years ago, if that's what you're referring to.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

is is just me or does "the present lover" lack the forward propulsion of "vocalcity"? i'm glad it's finally released here so now i can go pick it up. i downloaded it awhile back and deleted it pretty quickly, but my memory of it is that it's much more similar to his vladislav delay stuff (multi-dimensional texture overload).

he's playing here in a couple of weeks and i can't decide if i should go hear him or not

off to read the matos' review...

― tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 18:15 (twenty years ago) link

"he "just" finished The Present Lover almost two years ago, if that's what you're referring to."

my bad. i forgot how long it's taken the domestic release to come out. he said he's barely done any new material though.

― ryan kuo (ryan kuo), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 18:35 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...

i need to hear this.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, you do!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I love this. He's v. good live too.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:54 (nineteen years ago) link

ama: www.huumerecordings.com (then click when your mouse makes the "no huume" message flash while it's near the "go dead" text).

― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link

"Huume" is "drug" in Finnish (of the narcotic sort, not a medicine), by the way.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 08:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Has any one heard "Running Away" - his new 12" with Raz O'Hara?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link

and it's not on soulseek. :(

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:26 (nineteen years ago) link

It's only a 12" so that should slow things up some. I'm quite keen obv - "What Good" was one of my favourite tracks on The Present Lover (was it Raz on the title track as well?) and I'm hoping these new tracks are sequels of sorts.

Raz also tops on the Alexander Kowalski album...

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"What Good" was one of my favourite tracks on The Present Lover

My favourite probably! I had felt that there was some sort of Luomo backlash brewing, but this thread cheers me up immensely.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Can someone who understands them post the lyrics to the title track?

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I've always heard it as (in the order that the cut-up vocals appear:

I'm the present, the true lover...
Life, whatever (forever?); no nobody does it better, does it better...
Would you be mine? My silver, would you be mine my most moment, my most moment...
hunting for you, hunting for you...
How could you leave, how could you leave it all behind...

I can't remember any other lyrics in it off-hand. It's not supposed to make sense really, although all the vocals imply a lot.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link

vladislav is doing the production on the new gold chains and sue cie record...!

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link

"What Good" is my favorite as well, it's that little gentle, extremely quiet/subtle keyboard thing going on.

"Shelter" is pretty wicked too...live it was a revelation.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

its on soulseek, vinyl rip but at 256, two excellent tracks though the second might have a bassline a little too close for comfort to "beat it" but it still sounds great. first track might be one of the best pop songs of the year.

― twelve, Friday, 17 September 2004 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure a lot of vocals on The Present Lover are just cut up syllables, particularly the main refrain in the 'hunting for you' section.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

who has it on slsk?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link

yes please tell me

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Please please you have no idea how happy I would be.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I am nordicskilla on slsk if you want to whisper it.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

WHERE IS A SERIOUS GIRL WHO REALLY AIMS LUOMO

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 17 September 2004 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

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