It is getting more proggy, though, but only so much. It's not fucking Rush or Yes, it's more like...Pig Lib.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link
Speaking of two-disc Malk....I got the one that had a bonus disc of b-sides (I'm assuming some of you have it)....Was I the only one that thought "Dynamic Calories" would have been one of the highlights of Pig Lib? I have no idea why they didn't sub that for the Craw Song, which I still hate.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago) link
― jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
I don't get the dislike of BTC. I adore that record. Most of it was better live, though.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link
Hmmm, I thought conventional wisdom was that it's Pavement's only misstep, too self-consciously wacky and not cohesive enough. I disagree; there are some days it's my favorite.
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago) link
I think "Dynamic Calories" wasn't on the record perhaps out of a concern for leaning too heavy on novelty, lyrically. It'd be a better fit on the first Jicks record, probably. Malkmus clearly likes the song a lot, since it was played very frequently on the 2003 tours.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link
I get what you guys are saying about it having a different feel....however, "lyrical novelty"....what about "Cooked her a din...ner/and, boy, it's a win...ner" Yikes that drives me nuts...
Y'all are right about "Old Jerry" that would have been good on Pig Lib...
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 9 January 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
― otto, Friday, 9 January 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 January 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link
Maybe I just take too many things at face value, but I always interpret "Witch Mountain Bridge" as being a song about the occult.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 19:46 (twenty years ago) link
― otto, Friday, 9 January 2004 19:59 (twenty years ago) link
Not strictly on topic, but am I alone in feeling "Pink India" is tremendously underrated? I've been really loving that one lately. I love the live versions, when he usually freaks out on the "Punjabi's finest, bring me your wine list" part.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link
― andrew s, Friday, 9 January 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link
― otto, Friday, 9 January 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 10 January 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
Ugh. And Spiral's new record - eeek. That's just no good. I want to love that guy, but he's lost it big time. He went alt-country! Bad idea.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 11 January 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link
― otto, Monday, 12 January 2004 02:11 (twenty years ago) link
― otto, Monday, 12 January 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
― otto, Monday, 12 January 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link
I'm a frickin illiterate, so I'll take your word on eliot pount coleridge and wordsworth....but DMC is by no means below Run in terms of importance or delivery....in fact, they are two equally necessary and great parts of the whole....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link
M@tt, don't take me to mean Run or DMC's better than the other. My point about all those guys is they're word-people who complement each other.
― otto, Monday, 12 January 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Mikey P, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:11 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:20 (twenty years ago) link
That was Spiral, but with another guy (who is pretty dull) singing. Kelly something. -- Matthew Perpetua (fluxequalsra...), January 11th, 2004.
wait a second here... you are saying that that ISN'T malkmus singing on pavement's cover of "the killing moon"??? of course it is!
― someoneoneone, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:55 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Greg Travis, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:33 (twenty years ago) link
Some of the guitar solos seem influenced by Robin Trower - or am I imagining that. That made me think that what was uncool about some of those seventies albums wasn't the guitar solos, as I had begun to think, but the old-fashioned singing style (Trower's singer is unlistenable now, but some of his guitar still stands up, in my opinion. No matter how retro Malkmus tries to get, his voice always sounds 90s slacker-indy, which, in my opinion, is what saves Pig Lib from ludicrousness.
― Baravelli. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 21:04 (twenty years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 08:38 (twenty years ago) link
― John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 10:58 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link
Former Pavement frontman Stephen Malkmus has begun work on a new album which may wind up either as a solo project or a collaboration with his band, the Jicks. "I've been down in the basement working on a different kind of record," he wrote on his official Web site. "The band has been contributing a bit but it has more of a solo vibe than anything I've done in a long time."
Malkmus adds that "we're probably gonna do some group recording" sometime this month. The finished product "looks like a January release though may come earlier," presumably via the artist's long-time label Matador.
Malkmus' last release was 2003's "Pig Lib," which bowed at No. 5 on Billboard's Top Independent Albums chart and has sold 49,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. He and the Jicks will return to the live stage July 2 at the AV Festival in Malaga, Spain, which will also feature Morrissey, Squarepusher, Stereolab, Trans Am, John Cale, ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead, Four Tet and Shellac.
In related news, Pavement's legacy is chronicled in Rob Jovanovic's new book, "Perfect Sound Forever," released last month by Justin, Charles & Co.
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 7 June 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 7 June 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 7 June 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 7 June 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago) link