Where the f@ck do you see Church videos, exile?
― Dr. Crack, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― exile on krumkill rd, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 05:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
(this leak -- was it via p2p?)
― Andrew Frye (paul cox), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 05:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 06:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mentalist (mentalist), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 08:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
"It has been confirmed that the album will be released in Australia on Cooking Vinyl through Shock Records in mid October. FY release date elsewhere is January 2004 in the USA (Spinart ) and UK/Europe (Cooking Vinyl), both special edition most likely with bonus disc, the delay being due to an error in the mastering/ manufacturing process. Australia won't miss out on the international special edition as there will be a unique re issue to coincide.....more to come.The Australian tour will start early November (stay tuned for venues and dates), and Europe and USA will be early 2004. HANG ON !!!!!Great things come slow !!!!!!"
But Ned, how did you manage to snag a listen? I thought "After Everything" was much better than I thought it would be, so I'm really looking forward to this one. And a tour, too? So cool.
― Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kephm, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 22:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Frye (paul cox), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 23:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
x-post!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 23:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 23:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kephm, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 23:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
Kilbey's somewhere in the middle.
― Andrew Frye (paul cox), Thursday, 11 September 2003 00:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― blutroniq (blutroniq), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
As for S&D I actually (contradicting my above statement a bit) Don't like Starfish nearly as much as Heyday or also Remote Luxury (which I feel are the 2 best). This was one of the first bands I got into when I started listening to music. They have such a nostalgia for me, and thier sound only encourages this.
― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
Best since Priest = Aura. And P=A is my fave album of theirs.
― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 11 September 2003 03:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Frye (paul cox), Thursday, 11 September 2003 03:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 11 September 2003 04:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
As a Chameleons hyperfanatic, I see the point of comparison, but really I think they're two different bands with a slew of shared core influences in common, nothing more.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 September 2003 04:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mentalist (mentalist), Thursday, 11 September 2003 05:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Frye (paul cox), Thursday, 11 September 2003 05:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 11 September 2003 06:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 September 2003 14:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 11 September 2003 15:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Thursday, 11 September 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago) link
I wasn't very impressed to see them live. I mean it was interesting and all but they were doing a partly acoustic set and the recordings are soo much better. Maybe if I see them do a full electric set it'll be better.
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 03:00 (twenty years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 03:03 (twenty years ago) link
― mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 04:04 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 05:29 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 05:30 (twenty years ago) link
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link
Much of it is Steve talking about the Isidore album he recorded with one of the Remy Zero guys (which I haven't heard yet), talk about the Beside Yourself collection of B-sides, and then there's this:
SK: I think it's definitely a good way to work, just sending files. You don't have to know anybody. I've been talking to, in a very, very early stage -- a mutual friend of ours introduced us over the Internet -- Sonic Boom from Spaceman 3 and Spectrum. Do you know who he is? HS: Oh, yeah!
SK: He and I and another guy are talking about doing something together. So if it ends up being him just sending me music that he's done, or if it ends up me sending him that I've done, or however it's going to work out -- where he sends me a bit and I put a bit on top or whatever -- I'm very up for it because I think this is a really good way.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 26 July 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 26 July 2004 23:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 23:18 (twenty years ago) link
Unearthed is superb, a shamefully overlooked record.
― Bimble (bimble), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 05:00 (twenty years ago) link
All guitars in heaven sound like that.
― spittle (spittle), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 05:04 (twenty years ago) link
See the mystery of personal tastes. I didn't like that much _Hologram_, while _After Everything_ sounded to me like a kind of resurrection...anyway, the Church = great.
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 07:45 (twenty years ago) link
http://homepage.mac.com/fipster/church/sleeves/albums/back-with-two-beasts.jpg
And HFS is it good. I can imagine the conversation in the studio when they were putting this together...
Willson-Piper: "Remember when we used to make those songs with all the 12-strings and chiming sounds"Kilbey (wistfully): "Good times but what rubbish though"W-P: "Think we can do it again?"K: "I dare you to play that way. What do you say Pete?"Koppes (via guitar feedback): SCREECH! PLONK! CRASH!
*half of album is recorded*
All: "arrgh, sod all this! Where's that Sonic Youth album?"
*band records 20 minute song*
K: "OK, can we get on with our REAL album now?"
― The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link
It was released late last year.
― The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
saw them the other week too, and my dubiousness upthread about adding an uninspired '60s pastichist certainly played out in unremarkability; they played well (and Kilbey was having a great time wrt banter) but especially with two other guitarists now, Koppes' departure could have been a chance to get in someone who would reshape the old songs, or have a more idiosyncratic approach to the prog aspect of the group. call up, idk, Buckethead, or Kirin J Callinan.
also guessing that few other US gigs had as big a cheer when they announced the home of the touring drummer.
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Sunday, 2 April 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link
"sic otm" - Steve Kilbey
If you were the manager of a football team, would you rather have a team full of absolute stars who cooperate or would you rather have a team of guys who perhaps weren’t so absolutely starry but they were more interested in the teamwork idea. That’s how I feel with Jeffrey in the band and Ash in the band.
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:00 (one year ago) link
That’s a good interview :) Thanks for the link!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
Agreed, that is a really, really good interview. Probably the most forthcoming I've ever seen Kilbey be. It's interesting to hear that he allowed the band to operate as a democracy during the recording of Man Woman Life Death Infinity, and that he believes that's why the album is so mediocre.
― Vast Halo, Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link
xxp That two star review of Priest=Aura was not one of Ira's better efforts
― sawdust lagoon, Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
Love SK declaring his love of Prog :)
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 2 April 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link
I hope folks have this: https://stevekilbey.bandcamp.com/album/space-bootleg
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 April 2023 06:34 (one year ago) link
My partner (who never listened to the Church) pointed out that without any nostalgia bump, the show was pretty unremarkable. But that's kinda true for most touring bands of this vintage.
― enochroot, Sunday, April 2, 2023 10:32 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
I saw them at an outdoor fest in LA and had the opposite instinct -- they seemed like one of the 'aged-best' bands for n00bs in the whole festival lineup, stuff really connected well in that setting maybe
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 3 April 2023 06:57 (one year ago) link
i delivered food to this band last night! they were playing at the venue attached to my workplace and i caught a tiny bit of the show. Hotel Womb sounded great, ngl, but I do think they might sound like "generic rock band" if you are not already on board with the whole thing/a fan already (which fortunately i am so i enjoyed it) I smiled at Steve K but did not talk with him. On my way out, the show was still going and he thanked a person who he said has bankrolled their last 4 albums and supported their last few tours? And that person was in the room? I have no idea what that's all about but it was news to me.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link
also their fog machine set off the smoke alarm the night before and everyone had to evacuate lol. total Spinal Tap moment :)
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:18 (ten months ago) link
I had been listening to solo SK albums in preparation of this and really had no idea how influential Unearthed/Earthed was for me. when i got both albums in hs i was perplexed by Earthed but now it sounds SO good.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:23 (ten months ago) link
We were at last night's show LL, sorry we missed you! They were heavier than expected and I thought the band was great. "Metropolis" is still a lovely song, even if it seemed like they kinda just wanted to get it over with. "Grind" and "Tantalized" were highlights for me. "You Took" was fantastic -- from smouldering to scorching and back. Watching Kilbey's fingers keep pace as the band kept speeding up was fun. His voice sounded great, too. I even liked a couple of songs from the new concept (!) album. Wouldn't have gone had it not been so close to home, but we left glad we went.
It was the last night of the tour and Kilbey thanked everyone for coming out saying "This may be the last time, who knows? I'm turning...40 next year"!
> total Spinal Tap moment :)
I kept thinking the guitarist stage right somehow looked like both Nigel Tufnel *and* David St. Hubbins
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:53 (ten months ago) link
Yeah I've heard about this guy who apparently bankrolls a lot of their stuff. Like some huge fan who is also a high-flying dentist or something? Elvis Telecom may know more.
Also, did anyone grab that tour only release and can they share a rip, please.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:55 (ten months ago) link
that's so cool LL! I'm sure if MWP had been there you would have said hello... I saw them in Austin last week, but they played an abbreviated set because it was part of a festival so I didn't get to hear Metropolis or Kings, cry cry cry. Still, they sounded great and I still heard a few deep cuts (An Interlude and Hotel Womb the latter I guess they play all the time but I really wanted to hear it)
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Thursday, 2 November 2023 18:04 (ten months ago) link
I was at the Tuesday night show. The band sounded great, particularly on "Tantalized", but yeah, some distinct Spinal Tap vibes with Nigel Tufnel on guitar and SK taking time on multiple occasions to explain the extremely convoluted plot of The Hypnagogue to the small crowded of mostly-seated attendees.
― Andy Fox, Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:28 (ten months ago) link
@ john -- wish i had known you were there! we were busy though and if you weren't in my section i probably didn't see you. agree about the heaviness -- one of the things i love most about this band! they are both transporting and grounding at the same time, pure magic. i think i caught an instrumental part of "Grind" and I was proud of myself for recognizing it without any vocals
@ f hazel -- yes, i absolutely would have debased myself to say hello to MWP. i was about to interrupt SK but it was a meet & greet thing and people had paid for their access and i didn't want to misuse my immense privilege of carrying their salads and pizzas back to the green room lol. i also did mention MWP to several of my tables to demonstrate that i am a trve head lol
@Andy - one of my tables told me they read the book and it was "better than they expected" but that he should stick to writing songs, which we all agreed he is very skilled at
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:53 (ten months ago) link
v curious about this loaded dentist!!
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:54 (ten months ago) link
I've certainly been skeptical of the loss of Koppes and MWP, but it is Steve's band after all.
Actually, the current lineup is playing very well - even or maybe especially on the older stuff. Seattle show had maybe the best performance of Grind that I recall seeing in person. And as much as I think Powles helped hold things together through some rough years, I think the change in drummer has paid off on this tour. (But I swear I've yet to hear Haug play MWP's part on Reptile w/o fucking up the riff at least once per performance...)
New tour-only EP is decent enough.
Have also heard the dentist rumor. Maybe on this board some time back.
― Edward Bax, Sunday, 26 November 2023 07:47 (nine months ago) link
Dartmouth business professor Kevin Keller (who has a very popular textbook) was "executive producer" for some recent Church albums, which is mentioned in his textbook bio. Guessing that means he partly financed them and advised on marketing.
― theo, Sunday, 26 November 2023 19:58 (nine months ago) link
first gay in Archie comics, ILX poster, business professor and Steve Kilbey investor
― bae (sic), Sunday, 26 November 2023 20:27 (nine months ago) link
Some lovely memories here, also confirms it was due to a stroke suffered two days ago in Prague.
https://www.facebook.com/luca.signorelli.33/posts/10230859418609528
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 November 2023 20:34 (nine months ago) link
Whoops wrong thread! That sadly was for the Killing Joke thread.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 November 2023 20:37 (nine months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXBasxt6FYo
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:32 (nine months ago) link
(just posted today)
Awesome
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 23:10 (nine months ago) link
Really great!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 23:48 (nine months ago) link
was present for this radio session. really excellent. I nice follow-up to the show the night before. hoping audio surfaces of the pre-session warmup (video is very unlikely).
― Edward Bax, Saturday, 9 December 2023 08:09 (nine months ago) link
US tour dates on the way. Also Eros Zeta... is getting a full-releasehttps://www.thechurchband.com
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:37 (seven months ago) link
Well that's good, I'm still a bit sore they didn't have it with their merch at Hardly Strictly!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:55 (seven months ago) link
This last December my dad ran into Steve Kilbey at the local post office in our small regional little surf town. He's a massive fan, said g'day, and ended up scoring some free tickets for a solo acoustic gig that night.
Apparently Steve was a really lovely bloke to chat with and the gig was fantastic. My dad has been a fan his whole life; a very lucky encounter
― H.P, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 23:03 (seven months ago) link
That's great! Love stuff like that.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 00:34 (seven months ago) link
Looks like they are touring with the Afghan Whigs here?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 13:55 (seven months ago) link
Huge Church spree the last couple of weeks here. The post-stardom stuff has really opened up to me now.
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Friday, 9 February 2024 03:49 (seven months ago) link
I remember feeling let down in the "Box of Birds" era but I love how the new stuff sounds, and that KEXP recording up thread is fantastic. Sorry I missed the tour.
― fajita seas, Friday, 9 February 2024 21:13 (seven months ago) link
Man, you didn't like that era? I saw the tour for that very album and it pretty well killed.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 February 2024 21:15 (seven months ago) link
they may not have hit the highest of highs but can't think of another band so consistently great from their debut 20+ albums into it
live they remain a FORCE
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 9 February 2024 21:32 (seven months ago) link
yeah I'm mad their set last year in Austin was abbreviated so I'm definitely seeing them on this tour
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 9 February 2024 23:34 (seven months ago) link
new one is my fav since untitled 23. great title too
― ciderpress, Friday, 29 March 2024 18:10 (five months ago) link