Rolling Metal Thread 2010

listening to more Helcaraxe this morning, their 2007 album Triumph and Revenge. This is a seriously great band, I would guess that a lot of rolling metal regulars would dig them. kind of like a more Nordic-inspired Mastadon maybe? epic songs, melodic guitar-slinger progressions, pick-up-change fast parts but broad sweeping slow parts...maybe we already talked about these guys but anyway I got hip to them in December off a split with Father Befouled on Enucleation (which is incredible) and got the rest of their stuff -- I would be really surprised if people didn't dig them. Maybe they're known already I don't know but I had completely missed them and they kind of rule.

streaming this on myspace now...it's pretty good tho i wish i liked the singer better.

btw john my copy of that avenger cd you were on about last year finally showed up from amazon yesterday; holy hell did it sound great blasting in my car last night.

yeah the singing on helcaraxe isn't so inspiring but the riffs overtake it it. stoked you love the avenger album - every time I listen to it I'm like, it's so awesome when a metal album is really like a long voyage someplace

I'm listening to Avenger right now. for some reason this and Ruins of Beverast's Foulest Semen of a Sheltered Elite have been on nonstop rotation for the last two weeks.

the father befouled side of that split on enucleation rules so hard. i like the helcaraxe too but the father befouled shit is kind of dubby and shambling and fascinating. extra points for band name.

sorry about shambling. terrible word choice.

father befouled is an a+ name

yeah the fb stuff is great too just like you describe - cavernous, weird, "out." you should really check out that '07 helcaraxe record tho, it is just a solid, immersive listen.

def. in the meantime i am all over this enoid 10". swiss, apparently? decently recorded drums go a long way in helping me distinguish one particular tinny buzzing black metal record from all its brothers. don't know if the drumming qua drumming is any shake just that i can actually hear/feel them.

listening now and I'm digging the father befouled myspace tracks. I've been giving the (awesome) cremation (can) flames of an elite age '94 demo a lot of play recently and fb actually square pretty well with them. both def fit the "cavernous, weird, and and 'out' bill. (cremation moreso)

My favorite metal blog just posted the "Worship Black Twilight" comp, which has prompted me to start listening to that all over again. Really loose, crazy stuff. Ashdautas and Volahn stand out in particular, though I think a lot of it is the same pool of musicians in different line-ups.

Enoid sounding pretty damn good right now.

Waiting three hours for a phoner because the publicist told the manager and me both that it was supposed to happen at 3:30 except I'm in NJ and they're in L.A. So I'm revisiting White Zombie's Make Them Die Slowly. Wow, is it awful. Sure, they're partly to blame for not writing any songs, but this is the worst guitar sound in the history of rock music. I can't believe they didn't straight-up murder Bill Laswell when they heard the playback.

i'm not sure where else to post this question, but what is the best cannibal corpse album, because i loved evisceration plague, but i don't know what else to get by them. Thanks.

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what is the best cannibal corpse album

Kill is really good, and was produced by Erik Rutan, who produced Evisceration Plague, so it really is more of the same. Beyond that, everybody's got a favorite; most people like earlier stuff like Tomb of the Mutilated.

alright thanks, i'll check both of those out

I love Cannibal's last two with Rutan...as for the earlier stuff I'm partial to The Bleeding and Vile.

I can't believe they didn't straight-up murder Bill Laswell when they heard the playback.

yes indeed. at least "orgasmatron" is distinctive and still powerful, "make them die slowly" is really one of the worst production jobs i've ever heard by an established producer. i like MTDS, believe it or not, but i hope someday they find some well-recorded demos for it.

lol @ that Nachtmystium shirt

i like MTDS, believe it or not, but i hope someday they find some well-recorded demos for it.

The last three songs are pretty good in a second-tier '80s thrash kind of way, but the first four are straight-up awful. And they're all too long. When the WZ 4CD/1DVD set came out I interviewed the four core bandmembers and they said they recorded that album three times, the third of which was the Laswell version. No idea what happened to the other two sets of tapes, but I really wish some enterprising bootlegger would get 'em out there, or even post 'em on a blog.

listening to an old axis of advance album (obey). pretty wild stuff. sounds a bit like a black metal discordance axis. lots of screechy, dissonant guitars, grindy parts, and lots and lots of insane drum fills! love it.

absu + discordance axis, maybe?

so is the Arch Enemy/Exodus/Arsis tour worth going to if its at a club i kind of hate?

started my day off right with the dlx edition of "Storm of the Light's Bane", what a great record. should listen to it more frequently

so is the Arch Enemy/Exodus/Arsis tour worth going to if its at a club i kind of hate?

Yes. I actually saw some video of Arch Enemy's set in NYC (viewable here) and regret having left early.

And speaking of Discordance Axis, I got the new four-song Hayaino Daisuki EP (former DA vocalist Jon Chang's new band that's not GridLink) in today's mail. Sounds about like the last one, maybe a little more melodic. Gotta listen to it more carefully, but I'm spending much of today listening to the 2CD deluxe edition of From Elvis in Memphis.

have to check out that hayaino daisuki - I only vaguely remember the last one. I think I had problems with the production? (but I honestly don't remember what they were)

listening to gridlink ep now. love this thing.

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^ What an awesome find!

That's very cool!

When the WZ 4CD/1DVD set came out I interviewed the four core bandmembers and they said they recorded that album three times, the third of which was the Laswell version.

lol 80s budgets

Everyone on DFFD reckons southern lord can fuck right off
and I agree with them
http://www.southernlord.com/subscription.php

$225 AND shipping on top. Greg can get right tae fuck.

Nate can you get me a colour vinyl of the yob? No way am i subscribing to that just to get a colour vinyl.

Haha, wow, do they ever know how to cash in on vinyl nerds.

yeah that's way too much money but if they can get it from ppl good on them.

Noone on DFFD is signing up for it, I cant see anyone outside the USA buying it because they get charged extra AS WELL AS FULL SHIPPING CHARGES ON TOP. I could understand it if the extra charges were for the extra shipping and all shipping charges were the same when you get to checkout, but that isn't the case.

They've put up how much shipping is now

USA

$170.00
+14.20 shipping

Canada
$200.00
+14.35 shipping

Mexico
$200.00
+22.15 shipping

Europe
$225.00
+26.02 shipping

Pacific Rim
$225.00
+26.02 shipping

$250 which is £160 almost

what is dffd and why is what they're doing an indication of anything

DFFD is the old Southern Lord forum that Greg removed because people complained about SL's business methods and wouldn't arselick. So Forever Doomed was formed complete with everyones log-ins by the guy who ran the board.

so it's full of people who would be predisposed to having no interest in a goofy overpriced subscription series? gotcha.

people who obsess about colored vinyl are so weird to me. I have a friend that's into shitty pop punk and will buy five versions of the same me first and the gimmie gimmies 7". 100% crazy person behavior imo.

otm

It's full of people who love the bands on the label but refuse to pay for overpriced mail order (many of whom have ordered from SL and not received their packages ) and will only buy from other distros and local shops.

Being a past customer of SL myself (just the once, mind), I can vouch for the fact that their shipping is SLOOOOOOW. That can be excused if the label is a bedroom business, but Southern Lord is a pretty big independent label at this stage. They should get their shit together.

I think the complainers would rather it was slooooooooooow as opposed to not getting their stuff, zero customer service and the like. I've never had a problem with them, but everytime I order from them, I do worry if it's my turn to to have problems.

Yeah, my one ordering experience from them was slooooooooooooow as hell too.

southern lord once dicked me around for months. when i started demanding my money back they told me "whoops we found your order, it was at the bottom of one page of our spreadsheet and just got lost." fuck them.

The slowness itself is a symptom of big problems in their mail order handling. I know it's not the post - stuff from the US normally gets this side of the pond in a matter of days, not weeks.

"The slowness itself is a symptom of big problems in their mail order handling."

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I can't even imagine ordering from them from overseas, I mean I live in Chicago and my order took damn near a full month to get to me.