grime in 2004

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Chocolate chip or cinnamon?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

chocolate chip, of course

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

haha 'yo! silence'

prima fassy (bob), Monday, 19 January 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

Did anyone ever say whether there is a Lord Of The Decks 2 or not? Are these comps vinyl-only?

the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

Also-any chance of reprinting that ET article? Me is curious.

the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:04 (twenty years ago) link

lotd was cd-only

there was supposed to be a dice recordings comp out too, thuggin ruggin was the lead single i think

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:03 (twenty years ago) link

oh nordic u are so wacky with the names

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:05 (twenty years ago) link

ta very much, zemko.

the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:10 (twenty years ago) link

that's actually my real name

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 03:07 (twenty years ago) link

On that Femme Fatale set (which is finally working) the two tracks which I'm guessing are Dizzee's "Street Fighter" and Terra Danjah's "Creepy Crawler" are both astonishing. "Street Fighter" in particular is amazing: bombs over Hiroshima!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:04 (twenty years ago) link

That Kano & Sadie track is also amazing. I guess some people were talking about it upthread.

the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

Shame Femme had to talk all over the Kano verse :(

the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah Terra Danjah's a pretty versatile producer. I don't really understand Prima's Plasticman comparison - if anything Terra's like a gifted understudy to all the major grime producers with no particularly distinct signature sound yet.

Re: Femme - she really is quite an odd proposition. She looks like a pin-up anchor and then she goes nuts over all these grimey-the-most tunes!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

hello sweethearts. dunno if lotd2 came out but it's supposed to be. also at the end of febuary the Box Bloody Fresh compilation and dvd is coming out. new tracks by riko, ruff squad, nasty, east co, knightz of the round table, Gods Gift and others. dvd includes live pirate sets, videos etc etc i've heard some really good things off of it and some things which are horrible r&b pastiche things usually featuring jookie mundo singing on them. i love east co but they're desperate to sell out and go commercial.

', Tuesday, 20 January 2004 10:08 (twenty years ago) link

ok ok will reassess terra d. tho listening prejudices one so

omg street fighter! i remember like 2 weeks after i luv u dropped on 12 i think it was deuce or rwd that said the next 12 will be street fighter/camera flash or that the dubs were out or something like that

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 10:57 (twenty years ago) link

bizzack, ok obv i hate to pour cold water on a wet blanket but i still pretty much think the same about terra; v v talented and well produced in the sense of detailed skitters and crunches and whoops but in totality this feels like cleaner grime, and a lot of the time this detail does add up to a trackier Forward sound, for instance the trax firecracker, flammable, we are the worst. i totally hear a signature sound. i dont doubt this is progression from established grime producers and not from elsewhere, but it feels less notional than someone like target, or that he's aping the boorish strand i like least about grime... oh i dunno. i do like the newer grimette tracks a lot more tho.

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 12:05 (twenty years ago) link

actually u know what it all is, it's the attitude towards being futuristic

that's my bete

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 12:07 (twenty years ago) link

i would quite like to know what jess thinks, not least cos er i hope he might agree with me :P

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago) link

Don't get your hopes up.

Listening to the Femme/Mack 10/Kano set again and I've really underestimated Kano in the past. Sorry, Kano.

the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

kano is the best! I didnt like that sadie track though. Use better singers!

there were posters for lotd2 around london a while back, i dont know why its taken so long to come out.

i wonder if they´ll ship to spain when it does....

having looked round the record shops in BCN, i can conclude that a) they are crap, b) grime has not hit catalunya. Evenm the russian seem more clued up than this lot! (in response to something that nordicskillz asked me sometime)

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 22:05 (twenty years ago) link

To Tim and Cozen and anyone else on Macs - I got Slsk client working for Mac last night, no problems so far.

Anyway, I'm on, so if anyone's feeling generous...I ripped the N.A.S.T.Y. session off of Femme if anyone wants it.

My user name is the first part of my email address.

the Eskibox (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

Aaah, I see Toby...

the Eskibox (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

hmm, but it seems can't d/l from me. or am i wrong?

glad you ripped the nasty set off femme, i've been trying for the last couple of days but my computer keeps fucking it up. i've got the nasty deja set from monday up now (thanks tinman).

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 18:31 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, my files are a bit of a mess, but it's in the NASTY folder. I'll sort it out when I get home.

And no, for some reason 98% of the files I tried to DL from you didn't work! (?)

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

have been watching the discussion. this and the dancehall thread have been terrific reads.

so does this stuff appear and disappear quickly from slsk?

(will prob be back on it from next week)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

What's your username, Julio?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

oh I have to reinstall slsk and I will use a diff user name. I'll tell you next week.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

i would love to share my opinion of terra danjah for the delightfully sarcastic mr. zemko, but i've never heard him/her/it. i'm having the same basic problem as julio these days...i can't find dick on slsk.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

i can't find dick on slsk.

There are rooms exclusively for that kind of thing, jess.

Yeah, I am a little disappointed. I thought I would hit the grime/UKG motherlode (that's the main reason I spent HOURS installing it), but every file that has turned up so far has lead me right back to Toby's hard drive (d00d, you're cornering the market!).

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago) link

too right i'm cornering the market. jess, why aren't you d/l-ing from me?!

adam - are you behind a firewall or something? that often seems to cause problems. i can see your files, anyway, but the nasty set doesn't seem to want to d/l (it hasn't failed, it just sits there).

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

Someone else asked me if I'm behind a firewall. If I am, it's not one of my own design.

Err, I'm not actually at home right now to correct anything - I left my computer on because I was going to work and I had stuff queued.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

doesn't the mac have it's on firewall um i don't know too much about this. paging ed etc. i thk you have to enable yr computer to allow p2p sharing w. the mac but i might be wrong (this might only be an icommune issue).

as fr the music. 'armour' is amazing. it sits next to my mp3 of roxy music 'more than this' and each time it comes on i always think 'wht is this?!' i can't imagine what a vocal version of this sounds like; the lead organ riff is so high in the mix to kinda suffocate any ideas i had of imagining mcing.

lord of the decks - said so on the other thread: classic and dud ('who'd'a thunk it, a genius AND an asshole!')

haha 'wiley fr fuck sake please answer the phone!'; i'm a sucker fr phone conversations on tracks.

the other stuff - there's SO much other stuff! thks toby

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 19:45 (twenty years ago) link

lord of the decks 2 appears to be online! i haven't managed to d/l it though, and there's no tracklist.

"armour" is really called "lethal injection" it seems, cozen.

adam - maybe there's a mac issue. i'm sure there are forums devoted to this kind of thing. if not hopefully more people here will get on slsk and sharing grime...

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 20:03 (twenty years ago) link

system prefs -> sharing -> firewall -> probably set to 'on' (mine is), set it to, let's see, 'off' -> services -> turn 'personal file sharing' 'on'.

i think this shd be the routine, adam. give it a try i suppose.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

I will!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

i would download from you toby if i could get slsk to run these days!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 20:39 (twenty years ago) link

and if i stopped downloading nu-dnb tracks like a chump.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 20:40 (twenty years ago) link

i'm d/ling from you now adam :-)

jess - do you have the latest version of slsk?

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

i think so. i'm actually on now, so if anyone wants to msg me (dubplatestyle) and point out the riches, i'd be much obliged (winky winky.)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

ok you cheeky non-sharer you...

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link

heh...if anyone wants my usual 12 random mp3s they are more than welcome to ask to be added to my list.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:51 (twenty years ago) link

(the perils of 500 mb hard drive...)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

Everybody DL from me because as long as you are all still getting a connection I know that someone hasn't seen my Powerbook lit up through the front window and burgled us while I'm at work.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

ah fair enough jess. i'd share the other 8 gigs or whatever of grime i had if i had a bigger hard drive.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:31 (twenty years ago) link

can anyone tell me anything about mucky wolfpack btw?

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, it's god's gift's crew, stamina, all-in-one, a white guy whos name i always miss, i think rigby's in there too, i'm sure i'm forgetting some people, all competant but no one really stands out, double g aside naturally. dunno if they've realeased anything as a crew but stamina and all-in-one appear on most of the riddims, pied piper, icerink etc

', Thursday, 22 January 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

toby wasn't kidding about that vocal version of "ground zero". wiley's kind of an underrated mc, isn't he?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:31 (twenty years ago) link

Heh I was waiting to disagree with you, but that is nice. He's still a bit weak lyrically, though.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:56 (twenty years ago) link

the thing about wiley is, he was the hottest, he was one of the first to step up lyrically, his flow was sharp everything, then, i dunno if he was partying a bit hard or what, but his voice got fucked, started all cracking and going warped, his lyrics got lazier, timing got lazier all at the same time as the new generation were coming up and raising the levels again, so he got a bit left behind basically, but now he's a bit focussed again, still not back to where he used to be in about 2001, but just about up there with the best of them again. still definietly one of the best writer

'38 bus, thats where you saw me on the 38 bus
nah, thats what you saw you saw the 38 bus
i'm long like the 38 bus cos i never turn up'

'i know trouble, trouble said he don't know you
i know crime, crime said he don't know you
i know hard times. hard times said he know you
i know hustler hustler said he don't know you
i know whos who and whos who don't know you'

l', Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:08 (twenty years ago) link


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