Robyn Hitchcock?

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i think i have the CD single of that -- don't have a scanner tho!

tylerw, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

No, it's gotta be the promo 12" with the demo of "Ride" on it.

Similarly looking for the cover of Stereo-Phonic Pop Culture from Pop Culture Press, Issue 40 which has an excellent version of "Caroline II".

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

that "Caroline II" is different from the one on the Soft Boys 76-81 comp? Speaking of which, is there going to be a Soft Boys box set this year? Feel like I heard something about it.

tylerw, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, it's an acoustic studio take on "Caroline II".

I haven't heard anything further about the Soft Boys box but I presume it's still on for this year.

"Propeller Time" is coming: http://sartorialrecords.greedbag.com/buy/propellor-time-1/

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 6 February 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Amazon now has sound samples up for all the Propeller Time tracks-- and almost all of them sound really exciting. Folksy, drawing-room, but with unmistakeable full-band power... Robyn's Music From Big Pink, maybe. The tear-jerking 'Star Of Venus' I already know from live recordings and can say it's one of his four or five best songs of the post-Warners era.

Haven't been around much lately. Tylerw, you are very naughty for not putting 'City Of Women' on your In The 00's mix! Unless I'm mistaken and it predates the decade...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Propellor-Time/dp/B00377VARK/ref=dm_ap_alb1?ie=UTF8&qid=1265990324&sr=8-10

Edward Gibbon & Ruskin' Man (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 February 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

so ... it doesn't look like Yep Roc is releasing this one in the US? What's up with that?

And yeah, City of Women (and a few others from Shadowcat) would've made the mix, but from what I understand, that record is all outtakes from 1994-1999? Also love "Nothing But Time" ... That was one I heard him play live once back in the late 90s and couldn't believe it didn't show up on any albums until Shadowcat ...

tylerw, Friday, 12 February 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Sartorial is just the UK label, no? I can't imagine the Yep Roc thing going kaput at this moment...?

'City Of Women' first came out in 2003 on the Hedwig & The Angry Inch tribute album Wig In A Box (though it's an RH original) and judging from the personnel on the track (Kimberly, Paul Noble on bass, Terry Edwards) it must have been recorded around then. Love that fuckin' song so much.

Edward Gibbon & Ruskin' Man (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 February 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Oddly, there's no listing for it yet on the Yep Roc site. You would think with it out in less than six weeks the promotion would be starting.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 12 February 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, someone on a RH mailing list emailed yep roc and they said they don't have plans to release it ... maybe it'll be available on his Web site? Hopefully not at ridic import prices ...

tylerw, Friday, 12 February 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Whoa that's crazy. I thought the RH/Yep relationship was quite fruitful for both parties. At least Sartorial is on eMusic, so I can get it that way, hopefully close to the release date...

Edward Gibbon & Ruskin' Man (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 February 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, it seems weird -- thanks to that Demme movie, Robyn's profile is at least a little bigger than usual, I'd think.

tylerw, Friday, 12 February 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

And this album has marketable guest John Paul Jones on it...

Edward Gibbon & Ruskin' Man (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 February 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

and Johnny Marr! And Peter Buck! And Nick Lowe! It's like Yep Roc catnip ...

tylerw, Friday, 12 February 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i could have seen robyn play live a at a midsized club when i last went to the states, but i skipped it - probably had a date or was drinking with my buds, but i'm still kicking myself over that

for me i often dream of trains is the untouchable classic, but pretty much every album he's made's got a decent-to-great song or 4 on it... madonna of the wasps springs to mind, my wife and my dead wife, that one really haunting one off of eye, i should probably dig up more of his back catalogue actually...

damn, the links to rarities collections and live shows links all seem dead, too bad!

messiahwannabe, Friday, 12 February 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Go on archive.org and you'll find a wealth of shows to download, with RH's permission.

Edward Gibbon & Ruskin' Man (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 February 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I was able to get the Sartorial released Shadow Cat at my local store for around $14. Hopefully I can do the same for Propeller Time.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 12 February 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Sartorial is Terry Edwards's label - reserving this album just for him may have been Robyn returning a favor or just wanting to help his mate.

The rarities links aren't dead - I just checked them!

"Haunting one off Eye" - man, that whole album is pretty haunting!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 12 February 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Quite a generous gift for Terry, then, bcuz if this lives up to its 30 second samples, it will be at minimum the equal of either of the foregoing Venus 3 records.

During the I Often Dream... concert in NYC, Robyn said that Terry Edwards actually WAS a Higson, something I never knew...

Edward Gibbon & Ruskin' Man (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 February 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I looked into the Higsons years ago and wasn't moved but a few years ago I picked up their BBC sessions CD and it's fantastic!

http://www.amazon.com/Its-Wonderful-Life-Higsons/dp/B00004RDR1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1266013421&sr=8-1

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 12 February 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow that's the first positive Higsons comment I've heard!

Edward Gibbon & Ruskin' Man (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 February 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Higsons were great! Especially if you particularly like the goofy twee post-punk funk bands from Norwich. I bought my first Higsons record because I was a Hitchcock fan, and never heard anything else about them for years and years. It Goes Waap! and Tear the Whole Thing Down are great.

dan selzer, Saturday, 13 February 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

the only song by them i ever heard was "run me down," which i could still hum, so there's that

u b ilxin' (Hunt3r), Saturday, 13 February 2010 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

The rarities links aren't dead - I just checked them!

my mistake, THATS what that popup window was demanding i sign up for divshare was about!

unfortunately:

"This file is not available to free users in China and Southeast Asia. To download it and any other DivShare file, sign up for a DivShare Personal account for just $12 / year!"

probably a recurring charge too.

i suppose $12 isn't really an unreasonable amount to pay for a double album of rarities by an artist i like though. god, should i actually sign up? i just spent $30 on itunes and i'm sorta on a big spender-type roll here...

messiahwannabe, Monday, 15 February 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Nice, long interview with Robyn about the new album (among other things) here: http://www.robynhitchcock.com/propellortime/interview/

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Keep waiting for the new alb to pop up on eMusic, getting v annoyed. As always, am resolved to either buy or pay-to-DL when it comes to RH.

Deez Teatz (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i just ordered it ... one of the few remaining artists I just buy whatever he puts out.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

It's out overseas and in the wilds of the net. Have mine pre-ordered with the local shop so I don't mind acquiring a copy early. First listen - it's good, though not the straight forward pop of the last two. Some more experiments, some really stripped down intimate things, and an opener that reminded me of the Egyptians circa Respect. Plan on giving it another run through shortly; have to finish listening to a boot of Van Halen's USA Festival gig from '83 first.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

priorities!

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Tyler- have you seen the plethora of Soft Boys stuff up at Just Add Cones? Pretty neat to hear if poor sounding recordings from their first time 'round.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, nice, hadn't looked over there in a while! thanks!

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

*bookmarks furiously*

Deez Teatz (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

are the recordings *really* rough?

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Mixed bag - they're mainly audience tapes, so some good, some atrocious. Haven't had a chance to hear them all - too much Van Halen!

Into my second listen through PT - I hadn't read the interview the first time, but thought some of these were vaguely familiar. Now I know why.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, he's been playing a few of these live forever, and they feature in that IFC doc.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

excited to hear the Soft Boys play "Run Run Run" on that Club 80s bootleg ... !

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I know!

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmmm so how many VU/Reed songs has Robyn done...?

Run, Run, Run (Soft Boys)
Caroline Says (SBs)
Train Coming Round The Bend (SBs)
New Age (solo in concert)

I KNOW i'm forgetting something...

Deez Teatz (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i saw him do 'Some Kinda Love' live about a decade ago. It was one of those loose, all covers sets, don't know if it was off the cuff or something ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

when the hell are they gonna release a soft boys vinyl box set like the 2 hitchcock ones?

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

soon-ish? this year, maybe?

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

they've been saying that for a couple of years.. still no sign...

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it's pretty solid the SB Yep Roc box will come out this year, though I don't know the contents. I'm sure some of the killer rarities from the ryko 2CD will go capriciously missing. I assume there will be a vinyl edition.

Deez Teatz (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

weird that even the Underwater Moonlight matador reissue seems to be out of print? You can only get it from the sellers on Amazon, anyway ... pretty much the same for everything else. Maybe the box set will spark a Soft Boys craze. More bands need to sound like them.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

true... tbh I only heard them for the first time a couple of months back.. they were one of those groups that slipped through my net when I started seriously started getting in post-punk stuff in the late 80's.

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

They need to include 'Innocent Boy' in the extras this time. Best Softs song to have never seen a legit release IMO. (It was on the Invisible History boot).

Deez Teatz (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah! that one is great. kind of ridiculous how prolific a songwriter Hitchcock was then. All high quality stuff -- even the rehearsals on the Underwater Moonlight reissue are gems.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Had a first listen today.

1- Star Of Venus: Great choice for an opener, despite its un-opener-like sombreness. Total fucking gem, maybe the RH song of the young century, definitely in the top 5.

2- The Afterlight: a relative letdown which never quite overcomes the feeling of being a 'Tiny Montgomery' homage.

3- Luckiness: great sound-feel and deliciously unfrantic banjo pluckin, but this list-song doesn't take off. Musical saw all over this track but it's not enough.

4- Ordinary Millionaire: Wow. Just ravishingly beautiful and harmonically interesting to boot. Kate St. John finally plays oboe on an RH song hurray! This is the one for which Johnny Marr wrote the guitar part. Killer.

5- John In The Air: Even better. Robyn finally fucking nails the albion folk ballad mode he's toyed with a few times before (cf The Speed Of Things). Slightly hallucinatory production with an absolutely game-clinching deployment of a forlorn handclap on every upbeat, giving it a kind of raga feel.

6- Propellor Time: ok, here's the bleak minor-mode gtr arpeggio with three part harmony vox number for this album. Does it soar or crawl? It soars. RH has done this kind of song dozens of times before and rarely misses this particular target.

7- Primitive: An exercise in staggered vocals (3 or 4 robyns singing rounds)over strolly acoustic guitars. What the hell is that on the chorus? Some kind of treated accordion? This is awesome. It wins on sheer aural interestingness.

8- Sickie Boy- Chiming Byrdsfest over an interestingly tricky drum figure. Neat chorus that makes you wait two whole measures between its two short phrases. Way catchier than it seems, already worming my ear. Voices-and-drums only reprise of the chorus that sounds genuinely jubilant.

9- Born On The Wind: The old Neil Young/Meat Puppets II midtempo drumbeat arrives for a visit. Musical saw returns, but this time does its thing oh so subtly and much more affectingly. Goes down real easy and inspires contented head-nodding. RH gets in his memorable animal line of the album, ending a verse with 'the Da Vinci Cod'.

10- Evolove: Topical Robyn, taking Creationists to task with a minimum of pretension and more forgiveness than anger (we are very far away from 'Dear God' territory). Not on the level of the foregoing tracks, but good enough to make me wanna hear it again, and a grade above tracks 2 & 3.

So this is a fucking solid record with a better classic/dud ratio than any since Moss Elixir, and some of the coolest engineering of any RH record ever. Five definite keepers, and two more that immediately jump to all-time RH mixtape pantheon. As always with our boy, nice and short, no lengthier than an LP. I'm real happy.

Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Monday, 29 March 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

nice! hopefully my copy shows up soon ...

tylerw, Monday, 29 March 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree with you close to 100% on those write-ups Jon. "Star OF Venus" is his best opener since "Daisy Bomb". I thought "The Afterlife" was a "Yea Heavy and a Bottle of Bread" homage, but regardless of exact track it's cut-rate Basement Tapes material. Worst song on the record. I woke up singing the title track yesterday.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 March 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I forgot to mention abt 'Star Of Venus' in the phrase 'does it make you cryyyy' the cool way he makes the word 'cry' seem like its on a super dissonant note until the backing harmonies join in and make it a'ight. Love that.

Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Monday, 29 March 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link


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