"rockin that shit" = "so good" pt 2 fwiw
Umm I think you have this backwards?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 18 February 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link
fwiw, when "Rockin That Shit" came out I dismissed it as standard Terius and I was as wrong to do so then as you guys are now
― she got dumps like a rage, rage (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 February 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Dunno, I sorta consider the two songs to be as far apart from eachother as can be while still being "standard Terius". "Rockin' That Shit" is on the far other side of my humbled vs entitled dichotomy, and I loved it from the very first bar.
― Tim F, Friday, 19 February 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the final two choruses are sublime
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
rev i think you're wrong, if you wanna get objective it's prob because "rockin that shit" didn't (and still doesn't?) sound like anything he did before, but I can point to a cool half dozen dream-written tracks that this clearly knocks off, (and a non-dream track that we all love which i'm surprised hasn't been mentioned yet) most of which i probably think are better
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link
(and a non-dream track that we all love which i'm surprised hasn't been mentioned yet)
what song is this
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link
this is what I wrote about "Rockin' That Shit" on the singles jukebox at the time:
Dream-by-numbers. Springy toms, bouyant synths, dirty mouth to hide the stars in his eyes. Competent, but not as novel as he has been in the past. I can’t help but feel somewhat cheated.
― she got dumps like a rage, rage (The Reverend), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link
It sure as hell sounded like "average dream" to me for a few months
― she got dumps like a rage, rage (The Reverend), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i think tim's criticisms are much more valid than anything criticizing the sonics of the song
can you not dig "mr yeah" because it rips off the electric piano riff from "touch my body"? can you not dig "purple kisses" cuz it sounds just like "bed"? or "sweat it out" cuz it sounds like "purple kisses"? & anyway i totally reject the idea that terius has previously or should be breaking some sort of sonic ground with his singles.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link
tim, did you like "mr. yeah"? that's pretty entitled.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, agreed that Tim's criticisms have more to them xp
― she got dumps like a rage, rage (The Reverend), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link
are people who are knocking this song's sonic retreadiness gonna go to bat for "walkin on the moon" over "my love" because the former didn't sound like anything terius has ever done?
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
might just be me jordy but talkin about "blame it"
xp jordan that's not. the. point.
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
what's the point
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
can you not dig "mr yeah" because it rips off the electric piano riff from "touch my body"? can you not dig "purple kisses" cuz it sounds just like "bed"? or "sweat it out" cuz it sounds like "purple kisses"?
I prefer "Walkin' On the Moon" over "My Love" because the former is much more fun and has my favorite bit of melody he's ever come up with
― she got dumps like a rage, rage (The Reverend), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
you're strawmanning my point to the point where it sounds like i'm condmning anything that draws on shit he's done before, when all i'm saying is that this is a duller take on a lot of the shit he's been doing.
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm alright w/ this -- i didn't much like "Shawty" or "Rockin'" at first but still recognized w/ both right away that they were going to be steamrollers for the next 6 months and wasn't surprised when i warmed to them. this doesn't have the same feeling, and i could see it getting scrapped for another single sooner than later, but i think it also has a little something in it that could make it huge if it does catch on at all. basically it feels thin but also way more fun than any of his other stuff in the same way that made "Take U Home" one of my favorites off the last record.
― mildly haunted every time i hear usher say "raw dog" (some dude), Friday, 19 February 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link
tim when you say "entitled" are you referring to his tone of voice or more the lyrics?
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 February 2010 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I think probably both -- his uptempo songs generally do come off kind of smug and impressed with themselves
― mildly haunted every time i hear usher say "raw dog" (some dude), Friday, 19 February 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link
ya idk this sounds kiiiinda children's music-ey to me. like for all its standard terius features it gets unusually naive results. there's a risk of your songs sounding innocent if they've all got upbeat staccato synth jabs and short repetitive melodies, but he usually pulls it off much better than this. it just sounds less sophisticated or refined to me than any of the other singles. k3vin k otm i'll be very surprised if i ever end up liking this half as much as 'rockin that shit,' but promises of going "deeper than space" are v reassuring.
― united arab amirites (samosa gibreel), Friday, 19 February 2010 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Voice mainly (though the lyrics back it up). i.e. "Mr Yeah" may have a vaguely similar message but the feel of the song is so different, on that he's a very dedicated lover who clearly feels very deeply for the person he's singing too (hence the tender sighs "you can always come around..."), and the impassioned vocal reflects that.
The lyrics are important though I guess because the very fact that it's the first The-Dream song which is about girls generally rather than a girl perhaps feeds into how I'm reading it. It's the first time that dude hasn't at least pretended that he's only thinking about "you" right now.
― Tim F, Friday, 19 February 2010 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link
"you" should know him like that
― she got dumps like a rage, rage (The Reverend), Friday, 19 February 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
on my first few listens I was caught up in the rush of terius stannery, but you all are making damn good points
a bit upthread there's some talk of transitions - would love to hear this segue into something like "nikki (part 2)"
― pearsonic, Friday, 19 February 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
ok tim that's what i thought you meant, and pretty much agree - i used "annoyingly flat vocals" to mean something similar
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 February 2010 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link
this song is zzz guys sorry
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Friday, 19 February 2010 04:36 (fourteen years ago) link
so emotionally generic / empty
on the bright side, I was tempted to relisten to lvm and never noticed that ethereal bridge in the middle of sweat it out, it's like I'm watching ghosts walk through walls or somethin
― dyao, Friday, 19 February 2010 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link
deej you don't even like the-dream anymore so no shock there
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link
btw you gave a "7" to young dro's "on fire"
yallllll
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 February 2010 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm just saying that he played the "psshhh over it!" routine already last year
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link
bitin himself like the-dream AMIRITE
― dyao, Friday, 19 February 2010 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link
bullshit ive posted over & over that the 2nd half of his last album is A++
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link
u are butthurt bcuz you got all excited about a lame ass song :D
you fronted on it tho -- everyone who liked l/h as much as you at least had lvm in their top 10
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link
http://9basispoints.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/11202-the-airing-of-grievances.jpg
no in this case i think that people who aren't digging this song are just wrong
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 05:02 (fourteen years ago) link
regardless i didnt say "fancy" was zzz just because i thought yall were overhyping the album as a whole. 'walking on the moon,' that was pretty garbage-y. this song is just kinda boring. its not that it 'sounds like older songs' that makes it bad, its that it sounds like older songs but is missing the key emotional / transcendent elements. goin thru the motions
& young dro's 'on fire' >>> this
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i only brought up "on fire" cuz the beat isn't that far off from jim jonsin tbh -- not nearly as hacky tho of course
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link
its not that it 'sounds like older songs' that makes it bad, its that it sounds like older songs but is missing the key emotional / transcendent elements. goin thru the motions
otm
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, February 19, 2010 12:01 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
nah deej probably likes it the same amount as me and it wasn't even on my ilx albums poll ballot -- but then i am prolly a fronter too
― mildly haunted every time i hear usher say "raw dog" (some dude), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i didnt even vote in ilx albums poll -- ultimate fronter
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:57 (fourteen years ago) link
that's true
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link
i hate all the albums i purport 2 like
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Friday, 19 February 2010 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link
numerous circles of frontin
― she got dumps like a rage, rage (The Reverend), Friday, 19 February 2010 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link
going thru the emotions
'walking on the moon,' that was pretty garbage-y.
this is o_O to me but I recognise it's not one of the-dream's more loved tracks
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Friday, 19 February 2010 07:57 (fourteen years ago) link
hi ilx, did we know about this dream-produced thing from 06? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animalistic
gonna listen now
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
plz report back
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda like this; dream's been a slow burner for me so i'm happy to take some time to listen.
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 19 February 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link