NE-YO v THE DREAM

you're strawmanning my point to the point where it sounds like i'm condmning anything that draws on shit he's done before, when all i'm saying is that this is a duller take on a lot of the shit he's been doing.

i'm alright w/ this -- i didn't much like "Shawty" or "Rockin'" at first but still recognized w/ both right away that they were going to be steamrollers for the next 6 months and wasn't surprised when i warmed to them. this doesn't have the same feeling, and i could see it getting scrapped for another single sooner than later, but i think it also has a little something in it that could make it huge if it does catch on at all. basically it feels thin but also way more fun than any of his other stuff in the same way that made "Take U Home" one of my favorites off the last record.

tim when you say "entitled" are you referring to his tone of voice or more the lyrics?

I think probably both -- his uptempo songs generally do come off kind of smug and impressed with themselves

ya idk this sounds kiiiinda children's music-ey to me. like for all its standard terius features it gets unusually naive results. there's a risk of your songs sounding innocent if they've all got upbeat staccato synth jabs and short repetitive melodies, but he usually pulls it off much better than this. it just sounds less sophisticated or refined to me than any of the other singles. k3vin k otm i'll be very surprised if i ever end up liking this half as much as 'rockin that shit,' but promises of going "deeper than space" are v reassuring.

tim when you say "entitled" are you referring to his tone of voice or more the lyrics?

Voice mainly (though the lyrics back it up). i.e. "Mr Yeah" may have a vaguely similar message but the feel of the song is so different, on that he's a very dedicated lover who clearly feels very deeply for the person he's singing too (hence the tender sighs "you can always come around..."), and the impassioned vocal reflects that.

The lyrics are important though I guess because the very fact that it's the first The-Dream song which is about girls generally rather than a girl perhaps feeds into how I'm reading it. It's the first time that dude hasn't at least pretended that he's only thinking about "you" right now.

"you" should know him like that

on my first few listens I was caught up in the rush of terius stannery, but you all are making damn good points

a bit upthread there's some talk of transitions - would love to hear this segue into something like "nikki (part 2)"

ok tim that's what i thought you meant, and pretty much agree - i used "annoyingly flat vocals" to mean something similar

this song is zzz guys sorry

so emotionally generic / empty

on the bright side, I was tempted to relisten to lvm and never noticed that ethereal bridge in the middle of sweat it out, it's like I'm watching ghosts walk through walls or somethin

deej you don't even like the-dream anymore so no shock there

btw you gave a "7" to young dro's "on fire"

yallllll

i'm just saying that he played the "psshhh over it!" routine already last year

bitin himself like the-dream AMIRITE

bullshit ive posted over & over that the 2nd half of his last album is A++

u are butthurt bcuz you got all excited about a lame ass song :D

you fronted on it tho -- everyone who liked l/h as much as you at least had lvm in their top 10

http://9basispoints.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/11202-the-airing-of-grievances.jpg

no in this case i think that people who aren't digging this song are just wrong

regardless i didnt say "fancy" was zzz just because i thought yall were overhyping the album as a whole. 'walking on the moon,' that was pretty garbage-y. this song is just kinda boring. its not that it 'sounds like older songs' that makes it bad, its that it sounds like older songs but is missing the key emotional / transcendent elements. goin thru the motions

& young dro's 'on fire' >>> this

i only brought up "on fire" cuz the beat isn't that far off from jim jonsin tbh -- not nearly as hacky tho of course

its not that it 'sounds like older songs' that makes it bad, its that it sounds like older songs but is missing the key emotional / transcendent elements. goin thru the motions

otm

you fronted on it tho -- everyone who liked l/h as much as you at least had lvm in their top 10

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 19, 2010 12:01 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nah deej probably likes it the same amount as me and it wasn't even on my ilx albums poll ballot -- but then i am prolly a fronter too

i didnt even vote in ilx albums poll -- ultimate fronter

that's true

i hate all the albums i purport 2 like

numerous circles of frontin

going thru the emotions

'walking on the moon,' that was pretty garbage-y.

this is o_O to me but I recognise it's not one of the-dream's more loved tracks

hi ilx, did we know about this dream-produced thing from 06? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animalistic

gonna listen now

plz report back

kinda like this; dream's been a slow burner for me so i'm happy to take some time to listen.

i remember thinking lvm was more of the same, but now they seem so different to me

i like this new song ... haven't found any of those magic terius moments yet but yeah i find this takes time. might not happen of course but i'm cool with this begin the 'walking on the moon' of the new album.

re: nivea how awesome is this?!

http://www.zshare.net/audio/72779356703bad5a/

needs a jeezy verse

mobb deep

cuz like....blaow

Does this thread ever talk about ne-yo?

I tried to but everyone was like "ehh"

this kinda became the de facto dream thread cause there were other ne-yo threads but no other dream thread at the time this was created

ha -- ne-yo has his a few threads of his own. the 'year of the gentleman' thread & his singles thread are both pretty good

yeah rev otm

rabid love for Ne-Yo's "So Sick of Love Songs"
hawthorne heights take aim at ne-yo with disgustingly opportunistic, vaguely racist email blast
NY based Norwegian Producers Stargate work w/ Ne-yo, Beyonce, Rihanna, Europoppers -c/d
NE-YO v THE DREAM
Anyone bought Ne-Yo's "The Year of the Gentleman" yet?
NE-YO's "Because Of You"
ne-yo singles poll
Chris Brown vs Ne-Yo vs Usher
TS: Kelly Clarkson "Miss Independent" vs. Ne-Yo "Miss Independent"
featuring ne-yo singles poll
Gum Commercial Face-Off: Ne-Yo vs. Chris Brown

ok no need to go mental, i was just wondering.

"so sick" is one of my favorite songs ever

"so sick" & "miss independent" are diff the pinnacle of a certain strain of 2000s r&b for me

bc of you and closer are my faves

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