― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 17 June 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link
unless he has inside info ("Ellen was busy listening to the latest Kompakt comp, stealing ideas! Apparat wrote the whole thing!"), that leap of logic seems baseless.
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 17 June 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 17 June 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 17 June 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link
She's also set to appear on two tracks on fellow Berliner T. Raumschmiere's new album, Blitzkrieg Pop, due August 23 on Mute and is working on a 12" for Ghostly International, which should be out by the end of the year. Guess I'll be buying the T. Raumschmiere album after all then.
Also, wanted to add... with a bit of poking around, you can get a better quality (better than a realplayer stream) version of the Sónar set (also mentioned on Pfork) from her website btw. I didn't realise that's what it was until now actually! Sort of makes more sense now, how long did she play for after this? Was anyone at this? And what the hell is that track 45 mins in which is like deadly, precisely controlled acid-303 stabs + vicious military drumming?? *swoon*. I really should just make a fan page instead of bumping this thread again shouldn't I? Sorry :-( (although if anyone has answers to those questions, do say!).
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
I've heard her play things in a similar vein before, layering really active/pure acid lines over different, busy, breakbeat tracks... It's perhaps not anything super-original(?), but it stood out enough when I heard it before that it seemed like it.
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ellen+Allien
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link
!
There's 3 12" e.p.'s and a debut album 'Stadtkind' (plus many remixes, later collected on 'Remix Collection') before 'Berlinette' :-O
In fact 'Thrills' rather reminds me of a more fleshed-out, extended return (unfinished business?) to the sound of the pre-Stadtkind stuff (including 'Dresden', which I mentioned upthread), that of it which I've heard anyway*, no glitches, expression coming mainly from very soft & simple basic loops.
Even I'll admit to having conflicting feelings about how far I'd like her to experiment with this kind of style though. If her records are going to be seen as just dancefloor material... I think she's capable of taking things so much further, when she feels like doing so.
*If anyone _has_ those early records, I'm very curious to give them a listen (not assuming they'll be great or anything obv) - gmail me!.
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Basically my take (and Gear!'s I presume) on this 'controversy' is that there's easily enough material out there already that stands up next to anything off "Berlinette" (and could actually have slotted in there without being out of place) to credit the sound and purpose of that album to either producer (Apparat or SmashTV) in it's entirety.
For fans of the previous Ellen Allien sound, there is this to look forward to (assuming it will sound like that of course).
Ellen: I will see what happens. But what is concrete is that Apparat (Shitkatapult) and I are producing an album together. We share lines of a track—he and I add something to the track—it's like a puzzle. That's exiting, because I will not know how the track will be finished. He's an amazing producer. Watch out!(http://www.regenmag.com/index.php?module=subjects&func=viewpage&pageid=180&pageno=2)
I think I meant (upthread) I have conflicting feelings about how far I want her to continue with the "Thrills" sound, I do want her to 'experiment'. Just because she sounds comfortable & confident on this one, doesn't mean it will be the direction she continues in forever I don't think.
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Video for "Down" - http://www.mtv.de/media/artist/ellen_allien/ellen_allien_down.ram
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Title: Sonar Presents Ellen AllienPublished: 14 June 2005Duration: 1:18:53Website: www.bpitchcontrol.de Track Listing: 1. Darkfarmer - Zion - Swayzak Records 2. Hendrik Luuk - Vikat Voei Leib - Airbag Craftwork 3. Ellen Allien - Your Body is my Body - BPitch Control 4. Monoiake - Invisible - Monoiake Imbalance 5. G-Man - Graphite - Elektronixs Network 6. Donato Dozzy and Brando Lupi - Eskimo 2 - Electronicarma 7. Modeler - Mint Condition - Dubsided 8. Ben Klock - Track B2 - Memo 9. Playtracks - A2 - Electric Input 10. Stefan Manceay and Jo Flash - Twisted Area- Starbaby Records 11. Syncomdata - Denhaag - Bunker Records 12. Like a Tim - Like 6 - Like Rec 13. 3st Vs Dash - You can bomb me in 5 minutes - Rampe 14. Audio Werner - Zwrtshak Drive - Hartchef Records 15. Monolake - Axis - Monolake Imbalance 16. Sascha Funke - Boy - BPitch Control 17. Ellen Allien - Cloudy City - BPitch Control 18. Paul Kalkbrenner - Tatu Tata - BPitch Control
― david day (winslow), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riff Sylvester, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
p.s. now I feel double bad about calling attention to yr review of said record. I don't want to call you a dick (see other thread) 'cos I don't think you are :<
I thought someone might want to see that vid though (just found it online now) like, vinyl buying people maybe. Anyhow, thanks for finding that tracklist david day.
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 23:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― a, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link
There are a couple of nice things in the second half. e.g. "Ghost Train" and "She Is With Me".
Will try and find a way of d/ling that Sonar set.
― Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link
http://slate.msn.com/id/2121387/
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx le Belge (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link
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― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link
I DID pick up the "Magma" remix 12".. with remixes by Allien, the MFA, and Modeselektor. The MFA remix is predictable but certainly the best of them all.. although the Allien remix makes for better dance fodder than the album version. I'm getting tired of Modeselektor at this point.. they almost seem to force themselves to have to do SOMETHING jagged with any beat and fuck with it, even if it's a bad idea.
― donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Given that silly Road Warrior URB spread following "Berlinette", and the cringe-inducing "electroclash-hipster" cover for "My Parade", I actually really like the sophistication of "Thrills", the single-minded seriousness she brought to it. Not pop. Not glitch. TECHNO record. Bam.
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link
When I first heard "The Brain Is Lost", my initial thought was "THAT is what 'Slave To The Rhythm' should have sounded like!", based on the cover.....
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx le Belge (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link
I hadn't really heard many artists who'd created warm and inviting sounding 'electro'. In a non-pop sense. I think I associated the term with the very opposite, which threw me way off on first listen. I've heard some since though, and it makes a bit more sense now,
But the 'sounds' here have definitely had time to sink in way past the level of familiarity by now and I still dig them a whole heap. "Refurbished" does seem an apt term to apply to her new/old explorations here, it isn't in any way a 'retro' record for me. Nostalgic at moments, but that's a different kind of dip into the past.
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― ubrecht, Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Much more broadly 'dance' than her previous work.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx le Belge (Fabfunk), Thursday, 7 July 2005 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 7 July 2005 06:58 (nineteen years ago) link