i love "If I Ruled The World" because it sounds like nothing elโ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq-jANkqpQo
― secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link
ps, i know what you said/meant, rev, i just thought I'd post some Blow
-se I was hearing at that point.
Sorry if I wasn't up on all my old school rap when I was 10.
― im on the moon btw (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link
so whats your excuse for not being up on Mudhoney? ;)
― secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm not trying to zing, i'm just ribbing u a little, tbh
― secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
im with dylannn, for whatever reason over the last few years it was written has supplanted illmatic as my default nas album. 'take it in blood' is probably my all-time nas joint.
― max, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
It Was Written was the first Nas I heard as well. A couple tracks in and 'Street Dreams' is wack as hell. Nas as Scarface listening to the Eurythmpics lols.
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Nas as Scarface listening to the Eurythmpics.... LOSS
― secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
'Street Dreams' is wack as hell
man fuck u
― im on the moon btw (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
My man put me up for the share, one-fourth of a squareHeaded for Delaware, with one change of gearNothin on my mind but the dime sack we blazedwith the glaze in my eye, that we find when we cravedollars and cents, a fugitive with two attemptsJakes had no trace of the face, now they drew a printThough I'm innocent, til proven guiltyI'ma try to get filthy, purchase a club and start up realtyFor real G, I'ma fullfill my dreamIf I conceal my scheme, then precisely I'll build my creamthe first trip without the cliqueSent the bitch with the quarter brick, this is itFresh face, NY plates got a Crooked I for the JakesI want it all, ArmorAll Benz and endless papesGod sake, what nigga got to do to make a half millionwithout the FBI catchin feelings
^^ "wack as hell"
the IWW singles definitely put me off thinking Nas was interesting at all for most of my adolescence until i heard too much about Illmatic to keep ignoring it -- good lyrics but the overall effect of the hooks/samples/videos was kinda lame
― waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I like the hooks/samples/uh.... the "If I Ruled the World" video (yeah, the "Street Dreams" vid is totally wack) but it might help that I didn't get any of the reference points at the time
― im on the moon btw (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link
also probably helps that I had no conception of east coast rap standards for those songs to not live up to. the rap I was used to hearing was melodic and hooky anyways.
― im on the moon btw (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it's not like my standards for rap were very evolved yet in '96 either, those songs just didn't grab me much
― waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link
IWW is dope overall. This thread brings me back to the days of rec.music.hip-hop when everyone went apeshit over how terrible IWW supposedly was and how Nas was a sell-out traitor. (Those folks hated Reasonable Doubt too, but half-heartedly.)
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link
xp to myself: which is probably why a station that was playing strictly west coast/southern/BTNH/r&b/LL Cool J at that point picked it up in the first place. it fit right in in a way that, say, mobb deep would never have.
― im on the moon btw (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link
BTNH?
― waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
RESURRECTION
― secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
oh duh
― waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
even though I am well aware that Stillmatic and God's Son are technically "better" albums
Whiney -- explain?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i've always meant to start a thread or something grandstanding this (possibly challenging) opinion, but Nas albums post-Stillmatic >>>>> Jay albums post-Blueprint
― waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean, Stillmatic has stories, wicked battle raps, and the call-it-a-comeback vibe. God's Son has 'Pac-style poetry. They're way more emotionally affecting than the grumbling of HHID and have touched WAAAAY more rap fans on a sincere and personal level, which is is pretty why we elevate guys like Nas in the first place
― secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i just like Hip Hop Is Dead because the beats are real lithe, throwbacky and it's kind of cranky in a cool way.
I mean, even in 2001, sampling the crappy Sopranos song was CoRnY aS fUcK
― secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link
the fucking worst theme song of a great show. dude would have been better off sampling the theme from The Nanny...
HE'S THAT BROTHER IN RED WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS WEARING TAN
― secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd probably vote for God's Stepson, 9th Wonder's reworking of God's Son, if it was an option.
― Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Stillmatic also interpolates the Tears For Fears song that was the theme to the Dennis Miller Show at the time, leading to my theory that Nas was sitting around watching a lot of HBO during the long break between albums
― waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
ahahahahaha
― ksh kale (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
too bad he didn't flip Arli$$
Also, Whiney hilariously OTM.
xp
― Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I never had HBO (or heard that Tears For Fears song) until after Stillmatic, so I was just as clueless to those reference points as I had been 5 years earlier. Always dug "Got Urself a Gun" tho.
― im on the moon btw (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
rev, you do know if you're gonna be a successful critic you have to start pretending like you know everything, not braggin about all the stuff you don't know
personally, i was actually born with a working knowledge of the john zorn discography and all the eighties afropop that didn't appear on Indestructible Beat Of Soweto
― ksh kale (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't know shit when I was a kid, I do now!
― im on the moon btw (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
it was written. hhid is a turd
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
should probably give IWW a listen. I was among those who was convinced by nas stans saying everything inbetween illmatic and stillmatic wasn't worth it
― noted schloar (dyao), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
lol @ nas the pharaoh though
โ am0n, Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:59 AM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
u still have a copy of your whirlwind of beef photoshop? i just looked for it but the URL i had doesn't work anymore.
― waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
more challopsing xposts but bone thugs suck
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
nice trolling
― ksh kale (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
โ waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, March 2, 2010 11:31 AM
haha what thread was that on. i'll be bummed if that got lost to the ether (no pun) of the 'net
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm not even sure, i looked but it doesn't appear to have been on any of the 3 threads about HHID
― waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
โ 80085 (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, March 2, 2010 8:43 AM Bookmark
sb 51 eternal, amirite?
― cloaca darkness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe it was a rolling thread. was that 2k6 or 7?
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Rolling 2006 Hip Hop Thread
lol
http://www.crailtap.com/c3/newrandoms/1-3-05/hyphy.jpg
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
ah it was on the sandbox. i must have nuked that flickr acct :(
Rolling Temporary Hip Hop Thread
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
damn, classic material though
― waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
god's son, just for the first three tracks + the alicia keys one and 'revolutionary warfare'
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
firm slice pies, couple of trife guys in tinted up white 5s
i had the firm cd for forever without bothering to listen to it, but i got the bootleg-ass az/nas duets cd a while ago and the last 20 (out of 60, i think-- another 20 of the 60 are az drops for the no name dj that put it together, then another 10 are remixes of 'life's a bitch'...) tracks are just the firm album.
some of it is CLASSIC nas, like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy-s0dCbEYY
nas late 90s super arrogance organized crime raps
JEEPS TAHOE, SHOES BE SALVATORE FERRAGAMO
some of it's good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ByY849CeNI
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKKqKTM7RqQ
az verse is ridiculous
― dylannn, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
too bad nas wasn't on those bravehearts albums more, or we'd have a consensus pick for worst album.
anyways, here's something with bravehearts with everyone coming pretty credibly on a beautiful beat. i'm feeling this so much right now. this is my soundtrack today. ha, EVERYONE is good on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV2uG4nWCzw
― dylannn, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry for making a mess, posting nas youtubes here, unreleased or guest tracks or whatever, but, you see, i'm generally making a case for post-illmatic nas.
KOOL G RAP FT. NAS AND AZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOU8RXGQ1LI
and i'm gonna just put this here because we're talking about nas and that's a good enough excuse. this is the realest piece of music i've ever heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umf0jJSMXnQ
― dylannn, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
post away man, nothing makes an argument better than aural proof!
― Ballistic, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 05:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think digging nastradamus is some crazy fringe thing. man, it's got some good songs on it. if nas released 'life we chose' or 'project windows' as a single right now, what would it sound like? these still sound really fresh to me, really real. what are the really lame tracks on nastradamus? even 'you owe me' is aight now and it's stuck way at the end of the album so you know it's just the radio song like the lauryn hill one was (also stuck at the end of the record).
come get me (premo beat) <-------- just hope ur favorite rapper's consensus worst album has a track like this on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpuVaCA8_gg
life we chose <--------- top 10 nas verse, sorta it was written vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL4lLFoDJx4
project windows ft. ron isley <------ sensitive nas shedding tears for the streets, for illmatic loving crew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_-aemTtTc
family ft mobb deep <---------- tinny beats (dame grease), p and havoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9GPbXllBLc
― dylannn, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 11 March 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq2aHcDkYkE&NR=1
so i waited with them sigs blat blat blat
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 March 2010 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 12 March 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty good results
― super smash brother (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 March 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda surprised by the strong showing for HHID, liked it at first but have come to regard as the weakest of his '00s albums
― some dude, Friday, 12 March 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
ha weirdly i had HHID on in the car today. it's a good album but it's definitely flawed and corny as hell at times ("who killed it?" in particular has aged even worse than i'd expected). probably liked it more when it came out than i do now.
totally forgot how gay "black republican" is
"esco, what up""what up, homie"[nas and jay grunt and moan in synchrony]"yeah, that's perfect" [grunts][more grunting][laughing]
― hip negative (k3vin k.), Friday, 12 March 2010 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha
― guapism rules (The Reverend), Friday, 12 March 2010 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i totally don't remember "Black Republican" sounding at all like they were ever in the same room, let alone any "Coming of Age"-style pillow talk
― some dude, Friday, 12 March 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link
haha it's in the intro, listen to it
― hip negative (k3vin k.), Friday, 12 March 2010 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link
that black republicans intro sounds like it was cut and pasted from dj drops and other intros.
preemptive updated "myths nas stans believe" entry:
nas murdered jay on black republicans.
― dylannn, Friday, 12 March 2010 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link
finally checked out I Am. think this one's a little underrated. obv not a patch on God's Son, Stillmatic, or It Was Written but a worthy addition imo
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link