Who is the black boy in the sex pistols grundy interview?

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wtf people. mentalists.

[a moderator writes - do not assume that the topic starter is actually british]

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 15 April 2005 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link

She calls them 'guys' once they've whipped their badges out. So there might be something in all of this after all.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 15 April 2005 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Flavor Flav says 'yeah, boy' all the time.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 15 April 2005 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link

except when he's saying "Flavor Flav" and "know um sane."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:21 (nineteen years ago) link

whatever happened to that grundy cunt anyway?

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:21 (nineteen years ago) link

died in 1993.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm more shocked by grundy's lecherous comments to siouxsie than anything else on the thread. guy seems like a total asshole.

― Amon (eman), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Unfortunately, most of us here on ILx look more like Grundy than we do the Pistols.

See, here's the real North/South divide - the South had sloshed, cynical Grundy, the North had hip 'n' cool Tony Wilson!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

one only needs to look at the people involved in the argument to discredit it.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

and to see who the actual bigots on this thread are

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

― Amon (eman), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I think James should organise a series of sports contests between "the brits" and the Americans to decide who is best, and then afterwards the two teams should all unite and get wasted and grab women's asses, and eat chicken wings and joke about who saved who's ass in the war.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What exactly has this got to do with Vitalic?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

What do you mean?

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link

As an American, I have never heard anyone use the work Paki. Racist slur against Pakistani, I'm guessing? We don't get that specific here, a simple "towel head" or "a-rab" would work. I actually knew one girl who her entire life had only heard the pronounciation "a-rab" and didn't know that it was racist; she just thought it was how you said it. When she a read a story aloud in class that's how she read it. The ironic thing was, she was Chaldean.

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link

So Americans think Pakistanis are Arabs?

― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link

It's funny that the conflict here is about the use of the word "boy", as opposed to the use of the word "black".
-- lil Bobby Hutton (lilbo...), April 14th, 2005.

what a weird thread this has been.

― N_Rq, Friday, 15 April 2005 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link

So Americans think Pakistanis are Arabs?
-- Jonathan Z. (zin...), April 15th, 2005.

I don't think you understand racism. Or America.

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

But at least I understand irony...

― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"Unfortunately, most of us here on ILx look more like Grundy than we do the Pistols."

True, but then in fairness, so do Steve Jones, Paul Cook and Glen Matlock - and even John Lydon's looking increasingly like Bill Grundy wearing a Sex Pistols wig lately.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there any way we can bring rockism into this discussion?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Fuck. God damn shit. Fuck.

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm more shocked by grundy's lecherous comments to siouxsie than anything else on the thread. guy seems like a total asshole.

He's visibly drunk! Go rent The Filth and the Fury if you haven't, and watch the JFK-Zapruder-film-like breakdown of this monumental event...

― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 15 April 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

were tv presenters often drunk on air in the mid-seventies?

― N_RQ, Friday, 15 April 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

So, when J.Lydon gets his ownchat show?

"Go on, say something outrageous..."

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

You dirty bastard!

You dirty fucker!

What a fuckin' rotter.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Well that's all from me tonight. That other rocker, Glen Matlock, I'm saying nothing, nothing, a rude word about...

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

(btw, do you think B.Grundy thought S.Jones said "You fuckin rocker"?)

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

He's like your dad, this bloke

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 15 April 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

(cripes, it's geezer isn't it)

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 15 April 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll be seeing you soon.

I hope I'm not seeing Mark Grout again.

From me though, goodnight.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link

(dancing round the table)

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

hang on, we've swapped seats!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

wow, this thread blows, but the critical mass of posts to it drew me in. but this one jumped out at me:

As an American, I have never heard anyone use the word Paki

Don't forget Bush's use of the term:
"We are working hard to convince both the Indians and the Pakis there’s a way to deal with their problems without going to war," Mr Bush said.

(nb. the first line of the article is great: "THE White House last night insisted that President George W Bush meant no disrespect to the Pakistani people by referring to them as 'Pakis'.")

― john'n'chicago, Friday, 15 April 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

technically it's no worse than 'Brits' - words on their own are not offensive, it's the context that determines offence. pretty obvious distinction to be made between using a term as derogatory re ethnicity and just the blinkered ignorance for which Dubya is renowned.

― $V£N! (blueski), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

"Unfortunately, most of us here on ILx look more like Grundy than we do the Pistols."

True, but then in fairness,...

what? speak for yourselves, gramps!

He's visibly drunk! Go rent The Filth and the Fury if you haven't, and watch the JFK-Zapruder-film-like breakdown of this monumental event...

yeah he's admits as much in his intro ("... you see they are as drunk as I am..."). is there a site w/ a clip of this? it's might be the best thing the pistols ever did : )

― Amon (eman), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

here in britain it's shown on every channel 4 program

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 15 April 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

is Boobah on channel 4?

― Amon (eman), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

do you mean eurotrash?

(no)

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 15 April 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Just because you're a black boy
Just because you're a white
It doesn't mean you've got to hate him
It doesn't mean you've got to fight

The Specials: Doesn't Make It Alright

So they were racist sods, than!!!!

― zeus, Friday, 15 April 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Given this thread, I don't think that Dubya has the monopoly on blinkered ignorance.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

But it did set me to wondering why Booker T and the MGs would do such a RACIALLY OFFENSIVE tune as 'Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah'. Surely they must have known that they were playing with fire? ~

-- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...), April 15th, 2005.

recontextualization, ace.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyway:

I've heard back from Steve Severin, who doesn't know what Simone is up to, but posted a question about her on his web forum (though with no luck so far):

http://ub3.homepagetools.com/sseverin/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=mouthtomouth&Post=218&Idle=10&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=

I've posted essentially the same question here:

http://onlyloversleftalive.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2567#2567

I've also heard from Don Letts (he hasn't heard from Simone lately) indirectly through James Spooner, and am waiting to hear from Ari Up, having contacted her management.

I think we're all probably talking about the right person. She seems to me to be worth tracking down, I think.

Complete side note: Doesn't M.I.A. kind of sound like Siouxsie?

― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Who WAS the black boy?

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

God I hate british people.

― OMG I SAID IT (Alex in SF), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, I notice from those old forums that she (Simone) is still around. Is Pete Scholtes still about - did he get any joy on his quest?

Yeah - MIA does sound a bit like Siouxsie...

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

God I hate british people.

BIGOT

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Small ot.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 10:55 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.televisionpersonalities.co.uk/pistols.htm

.. has it as 'Simone'

― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

that's exactly what eman c&p'd four years ago.

― Cosmic Ugg (S-), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

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